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I'm lazy, so here's part of another thread on the subject explaining vinyl is better, and why CDs are really not good. Plenty more where that came from too : "I have been into HI-FI as well as recording etc for about 20 years. this is such an old argument, you wouldn't beleive it. Anyway, played back on PROPER EQUIPMENT, vinyl is much better than CD. Period. Ask any hi-fi nut. The mere fact that it is ANALOGUE means the resolution is much greater (INFINITE) compared to CD. CD, and any kind of sampling, is just that, SAMPLING. It is taking snapshots of where the voltage is. It doesn't 'get' the whole voltage. Digital audio throws away an INFINITE amount of detail compared to vinyl. Read and understand this. The BANDWIDTH reduction that you talk about (20k for CD, 15k for vinyl) is not the same thing. Go and read what I said about the top end. MOST PEOPLE OVER 30 (especialy if they frequent loud places) cand even fucking HEAR above 16k. The diffrence is HALF AN OCTAVE, it's not very much musicaly. The roll of is GENTLE rather than the STEEP, SHARP, RINGY, OVERBRIGHT top of CD. CD's problem is this filter. It has to be really sharp. Beleive me (because I build audio filters) that making a filter that is so sharp is very hard, it will always produce artifacts... PLUS vinyl goes LOWER than CD!!! You say the cut from 15k to 20k is a lot? What about the cut from 20hz to 10hz? THATS A WHOLE FREAKIN OCTAVE! Now, read and understand what I say, vinyl has a higher resolution than CD. This is fact. It is fuckin SCIENCE. Vinyl is also easier to cue than CD - it can take me as little as 10 or 15 seconds to pick a record, put it on, cue it, and mix it in. try doing that with a CD! The freakin drawer won't be closed by that time!.. |
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Yes, a LOT of producers (most now??!) mix onto CD and get it pressed up. However, the mastering process for vinyl is VERY different to CD. The process of physicaly cutting the wax introduces warm, musical distortions to the sound that CD can't do. These distortions aren't the nasty hi frequency exaguration of CD, but musical harmonic distortions, that make sound easier to hear. The final carrier for the music is VITAL in it's quality. If you want cold, clinical tones, choose CD. Finaly, i ain't an extremist. I use MP3's (hi-Q encoded from carefully recorded vinyl) and play about with Traktor on my computer. It's fun, and sure I could do a set like that, but the quality and sheer hands-on of vinyl cant be beat. You say that pressing a button is the same as pushing a record about? CRAP! A button is a digital thing, ON or OFF. Pushing vinyl is analogue, I can stop it, push it back, forward slowly etc the control is, again, INFINITE. thats a lot more than 0 | 1. You do the math. " |
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oh shit hopefully i've just begun to buy vinyles |
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Link should've been there.. |
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that's probably right but cd is easier to use :) |
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sure |
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It started off quite reasonable and then lost my interest by raving and going a bit berserk. |
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style isn't important here, content is. I don't see anything unreasonable about it. Do elaborate.. CDs are easier to use for what? Mini-frisbees? Safety ninja starts? Coasters? |
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they're easier to cut in half because they're smaller..especially the 3" ones. |
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Vinyl sounds good because tiny magic fairy musicians live in the grooves. Listen to their happy song. |
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Posting a crap picture won't transform your fake music collection... |
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Yes it will. |
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hahahah - thanks for proving my argument with this post. we agree on much of this, but i have concluded the opposite is true. as i said before, if you have "PROPER EQUIPMENT" ($$$$$$), vinyl is lovely. but it is only theoretically better quality than cds because i have never in my life seen a record completely free of "artifacts" - dust, warps and scratches, which mar the sound. cd's are a basically indestructable format - they can be washed in the dishwasher and there is no change in the sound. vinyl is in no way easier to cue than a cd unless you are a dj or retarded. there's a "next track button" - check it out. "The process of physicaly cutting the wax introduces warm, musical distortions to the sound that CD can't do. " -- i know this, that's why i said it. it is a distortion of the sound. it is NOT better - it is different than what was intended on the recording. it is much worse. warmth is bullshit. if you are an audiophile, enjoy your expensive stereo and keep your vinyl in an airtight safe. i can't afford it personally. cd's are cheaper, more durable, easier to carry around, hold more music and sound the way they should every time. |
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You fags need to listen to Edison wax cylinders if you really want to know how music should sound: thin and scratchy, the way God intended. |
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not to mention that cd's hold twice as much music. the only downside is the lack of giant-sized artwork. |
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CD's are awesome. I prefer vinyl but I can't deny the quality of CD. CDs are a great invention. |
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a record just feels much better.. |
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in your ass |
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mary had a little lamb is a fantastic 78. |
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I'll buy it when they release it on CD. |
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i won't. i've got an mp3. |
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you've got a crap copy |
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ruserios? mp3's are far superior to compact discs!! |
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me singing is far superior to vinyl |
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link? |
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so ? should i throw away all my damn cds ? one word , Master adam, and i'm gonna do it ! just say it ! |
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Am I annoying you? Oh well.. One word? ok read. Then come with an intelligent point, or go and play somehere else. |
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yeah sell them all for 1€ to me |
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no, not annoying. it seems Youre a nice person BUT please start another thread explaining why you started this whole lecture about vinyl i love vinyl sound and i love digital sound i just love SOUND , i'm happy to have ears. |
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my last word : 1,50 euro |
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sold out ! |
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