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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-03-11 06:29 [#01529283]
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I've never really had the skill, dexterity, patience or time to learn to DJ the traditional way (vinyl or CD), despite a couple of false starts.
I've recently started playing around with Traktor and discovered that it's an amazing, easy to use piece of software (once you've figured it all out).
I'm going to start DJing with it (on a laptop) here in Lithuania some time soon.
My question is, are laptop DJs taken seriously in, say the UK or other countries? Not that many people can afford vinyl here, so most use CDs and some use laptops. But how about in other places?
I mean, it *is* much easier to DJ using Traktor - so do DJs using get laughed of stage? Is there much vinyl snobbery?
It's just that when I return to the UK, I might try to get a DJ gig if all goes well here....
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 06:33 [#01529285]
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It doesn't really matter as long as the music is good.
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-11 06:34 [#01529286]
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traktor is great.. my problem: i have a laptop with an onboard shit soundcard, plus my real soundcard, a pcmcia soundcard (echo indigo io) 1 in, 1 out. is it possible to configure traktor to do the master out on the pcmcia card, and the headset on the shit card?
in atomix virtual dj i can do this, but i can't figure it out with traktor.
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-11 06:36 [#01529287]
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laptop dj'ing is accepted. and traktor is what most people are using.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-03-11 06:37 [#01529288]
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As long as the DJ have a good selection, I really don't care what equipment is used.
RDJ, Luke Vibert and Richard Devine use it.
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-11 06:38 [#01529290]
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+cylob ++++++
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-11 06:40 [#01529292]
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"DJ" means playing other people's tracks, as well as my own, off a laptop running Native Instruments Traktor (just like every other laptop DJ!) www.cylob.com
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-03-11 06:41 [#01529293]
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those mentioned > chris jeffs :)
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polygon_ring
from somewhere else on 2005-03-11 06:41 [#01529294]
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as a laptop dj you have access to much more music. for instance, most netlabels never release cd's or vynil records.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 06:42 [#01529296]
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Cylob is such an awfull DJ.
They had a set posted on the warp site back when radio was still up.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 06:43 [#01529297]
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There is also hordes of out of print stuff available in slsk. As well as the fact that 2 rare mp3's arent going to cost you fourty dollars.
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polygon_ring
from somewhere else on 2005-03-11 06:47 [#01529303]
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yes, that's right. there are so many advantages i can only be sorry for the "vinyl snobs".
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-03-11 06:47 [#01529305]
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Ah, but what about that Italian DJ who was recently fined 1.4 million Euros for playing pirate MP3s at a nightclub?
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-03-11 06:54 [#01529316]
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In some scenes you will get dissed for it. Here in London it seems laptops are the standard when it comes to electronic music but this is not the case everywhere and I've seen a lot of bitching on messageboards about people using Traktor... Playing vinyl is a lot more fun although from a listener's point of view I don't really care as long as the music's good!
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polygon_ring
from somewhere else on 2005-03-11 06:54 [#01529317]
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well, if you cannot use original material than you'd better use only tracks from netlabels like monotonik, kahvi collective, rohformat, etc. there are thousands of hours of free music out there. most of it exceptionally good.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-03-11 07:13 [#01529330]
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i've just checked out Traktor and it seems like a great program. The only thing is...one mouse can't replace two hands...maybe i haven't learned all the features just yet. has anyone made the plunge to use Final Scratch? its like the best of both worlds
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zkreso
from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2005-03-11 07:14 [#01529332]
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I know to me it would not matter what you used for DJing, as it's all about what tracks you play, and not how you play them.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2005-03-11 07:21 [#01529340]
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i've used traktor when i was dj-ing a couple of times, and it went down pretty good. just make sure you have a soundcard with 2 out, so you can monitor with your headset.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-03-11 07:28 [#01529348]
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My only gripe with Traktor is that the pitchcontrol is very crude. I'd like the increments to be of 0.1 percents steps. I guess it is fine as it is when you only use mp3s, but it's not accurate enough when I'm doing a vinyl/computer setup.
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-03-11 07:31 [#01529356]
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Now that you mention it it's true, I've always thought that I'm doing something wrong on the Traktor side - vinyl + mp3 is my usual setup and have noticed that sometimes it's just necessary to tweak the sl1200 pitch get it just right
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oyvinto
on 2005-03-11 07:36 [#01529363]
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2 oyt? what about 1 out + 1 out? traktor is supposed to be the best but can't handle two soundcards. i have to stick to atomix then.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-03-11 07:42 [#01529370]
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I just use one soundcard with an audio jack splitter cable and use the left channel for monitoring, right channel for PA.
It's crude, and it's in mono, but it works.
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-03-11 08:53 [#01529428]
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if you put on a good set, you put on a good set, period.
i've tried using traktor a few times, but i don't have the patience. i've seen it used amazingly though.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 21:51 [#01530155]
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My soundcard supports four sterio outs. Isn't this normal?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 21:52 [#01530158]
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As far as I know, you can convert on of your recording channels (line in or microphone) to a line out...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-03-11 23:50 [#01530178]
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Aphex's atp set was amazing. I really loved it. It was messy at times, but over all, excellent. I wasn't there or anything. Got the mp3's
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-03-12 02:39 [#01530203]
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Really? Does anyone know how to do this? It would be pretty useful.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-13 01:46 [#01531039]
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As long as you are not using an on board soundcard. Well, most on board ones at least. My on board will let you do that as well.
But what you need to do is go into the audio settings, and there should be a dialogue that lets you decide what goes where. It should work on even a shitty $50 game soundcard, because the demand for 5.1 with all the games released in the past 3 years. Its kind of standard. I know its pretty easy on most creative soundcards, and not that much harder on most others. It depends on your soundcard, so I can't really walk you through it (cause I don't know what card you own, and very well probly don't own the one you do).
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-03-14 17:11 [#01533115]
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it works on the sounblaster live if u get the moded kx drivers it lets u assign outputs to differentc hannels (i think)
on a seperate note i just got traktor and im loving it. i do feel like im cheatoing but fuck it who cares. also the whole not actually saving audio is wierd i like ti though i can save alot more mixes as long as i dont move my mp3's (which i dont)
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-03-14 17:16 [#01533122]
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oyvinto: I have the EXACT same problem. Please let me know if you ever get it to work.
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magness
from astroblaster (Antarctica) on 2005-03-14 17:24 [#01533141]
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I've gotten loads of positive response in Los Angeles doing traktor dj sets on my lappy...
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