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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:12 [#01505475]
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Why oh why Richard D James aka Aphex Twin?
When u released Analord 10 with Fenix Funk, one of the best tracks I ever heard made by u (or maybe anyone in electronic music). I got my hope up so high when I heard this, I mean the melodies was so strong and the production was amazing and the b-side Xmd5a was also TOP NOTCH material...super nice stuff that got me thinking DAM aphex is back! I never heard anything like this and if u ask me this is almost a new style that I was looking for :)
Then I got Analord 1....and thought WTF, what is this, these sounds uninspired and quite boring after a listening to em a lot, but they been growing a bit and ofcourse stoned they sound nice. ...
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:15 [#01505477]
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but now im thinking DAM! these tracks got so much potential! why didnt he work on these tracks and added some better production and more high tech stuff like he did on Xmd5a and Fenix Funk, he should have worked on the tracks more...becase dont get me wrong some of these tracks have soooooo nice melodies that u could have made Analord 10 material out of it. Like Pissed Up In SE1 have amazing melodies etc but sounds so dull, he could have made a super track out of it if he worked on as much as he did on Fenix and Xmd5a.
Dont talk about "yeah this is AFX not Aphex Twin thats why its so minimal and I like it more" no u dont.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-20 06:16 [#01505478]
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And then there is me who prefers Analord 1 to Analord 10. So because you don't like Analord 1 - 4 as much as others do aphex has passed up the oportunity to do something good. I am really pleased that your opinion outweighs everyone elses about music because from now on I will just email you if I want to know if music is good or not.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:20 [#01505479]
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fenix and xmd5a a irritating for about 30% each and the rest is good. so i enjoy about 70% of those tracks where as phonatacid, boxing day etc. i enjoy throughout.
and yes they are 2 differing styles; afx and aphex twin and this is clear in the production. whichever u prefer is a matter of taste surely?
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:20 [#01505480]
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Stepping filter 101, Grumpy Acid, Bwoon Dub etc etc also sounds dull but could have been BANGERS with the right production (im not asking for Drukqs digital drill n base) just Analord 10 style. I mean he got me thinking that analord series would be in that vein when he released analord 10 but then 1-2 sounded like lefteovers from 92-93 (he could have polished them).
and dont get me started on Analord 3 and 4!
Some of the tracks on them have some of the best melodies I ever heard like Klop Job, Boxing Day, Home Made Polysynth, Halbiut Acid, Crying In Your Face...I mean these tracks could be the best tracks Aphex Twin ever made if he added the production he gave Fenix Funk and Xmd5a!!!!!!!
Why "waste" (thats maybe I harsh word) the potential in these tracks.
Even as they are now they piss on the competition but I mean the Analord could have been the best shit EVER.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-20 06:22 [#01505481]
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Maybe you should email Richard with some pointers on how to produce tracks, I'm sure he would appreciate it.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:23 [#01505482]
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i dont think you understand this release.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:25 [#01505484]
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I want the details that Aphex is good at making.
Phonatacid is nice, yeah almost every track is nice but he could have polished them a bit.
Added some details, changes etc then I would have been even more happy then im now, because dont get me wrong Analord 3-4 is the shit! but it could have been the best "SHIT" ever made by man.
I know u want production that APhex is so good at on these jewels ;)
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:27 [#01505487]
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LOL yeah, yeah. hmmm nope, but I would gladly e-mail him to tell him that Analord 10 is "WOW!!", this is it, make more tracks like that! Please give us a CD with tracks like that and good job on analord 1-4 could have been the best ever if u just messed witht them a bit ;)
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:28 [#01505488]
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Like I know u can ;)
Exaph: What do I dont understand? The retro feeling of it?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:29 [#01505490]
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lets just wait and see if theres more aphex twin analord releases then.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:30 [#01505492]
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i dont see why you would expect aphex sounding tunes from afx if u know what i mean..?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-02-20 06:30 [#01505493]
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I had similar feelings. Analord 2 and 4 are nice though. The melodies are beautiful but could possibly have more around them as I'm already getting bored of them.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:30 [#01505494]
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the analouge concept? im not buying that, why did he make Analord 10 then? to tease us?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-20 06:31 [#01505495]
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hmm, you will probably tell me I am wrong, but as I have said before I thnk three of my four most listened to aphex tracks of all time are Polynomial C, GAK 2 and Xepha (cylob remix of ventolin being another but not included in the four, the forth is actually Meltphace6)...I'm not overly into the later fast beat stuff (although I don't mind it) the Analords have hit the spot perfectly in what I wanted.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:34 [#01505497]
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Xepha?
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:34 [#01505498]
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yup, yup, u get my point! im feeling what u saying.
Home Made Polysynth..that track could have been BANANAS!!! now its just good.
I like this release im happy that he released it and its almost like it would have been better if he released Analord 10 last, like a big PRESENT to show what he can do.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:36 [#01505499]
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I do much prefer Aphex Twin to AFX, but the AFX tunes are filling my craving for the time being, although I fo hope we'll get more Aphex from Analord 5/6 onwards.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:37 [#01505502]
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Polynomial C is also easily one of my alltime Aphex favourites as well as the other Aphex tracks u mentioned...if he released Analord 1 first then I wouldnt have so high expectations on the others... but to me Analord 10 is new ground, super cool tracks, nice production, nice melodies etc etc 2005 retro type shit.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:37 [#01505503]
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Why have I never come across Xepha??
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-20 06:38 [#01505504]
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mm not everyone demands complex beats, i love the dubby beats on 2 , really let the melodies glide off , these have really done the job for me too, though a few aphexy tracks thrown in at some point would be nice. i wonder if there will be 11and12 or if a few volumes are 2xlp, hoping for the former.
also the "polishing" and production you are harping on about is a load of crap, the production is great on all these tracks, beats changing often and more complex structures [analord10] are part of song writing , not producing.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:39 [#01505505]
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He must have really wanted to start with AFX because by releasing 10 first as Aphex Twin it kind of hooks you in to the series. There's surely no other reason you would do that.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:41 [#01505506]
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that got me all hype and almost in a state of SHOCK, it got me thinking, this cant be true!? is he releasing 9 EPs with material like this!!?!?!?! DAM that man is gifted, he got serious skills, hehe like I didnt knew that before...
and I can bet my left hand that he got tons of more tracks like this laying around.
BUT I know I know, I shouldnt complain...its new Aphex ooops I mean new AFX and its nice so I should shut up!!
My rantings will probably just make Aphex pissed and go "fuck! these bastards will never be satisfied, whatever I do they complain :( ) and make him wait another 5 years until the next release...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:42 [#01505507]
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I agree, the production on these AFX's is superb. Better-sounding production than older AFX imo.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-20 06:42 [#01505508]
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It the last track off On, all the tracks off On are brilliant though.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:43 [#01505509]
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"mm not everyone demands complex beats, i love the dubby beats on 2" hell its not the complex beats im after! im tired of drill n base! I sure love dub beats! even better than Drill, its details and production im after, and u can make complex tracks without drill n base wankery, just listen to Fenix and Xmd5a.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:46 [#01505510]
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cool, just found out. thanks. i love on. how nostalgic.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:48 [#01505511]
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dont get me started on this! u know what I mean by production!!!!! all the production he spent on the synths on Fenix for example! fades, effects, tricks and bits LOL :)
and yes the structure and "song writing" lol, composing is also more of my taste on Analord 10.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 06:50 [#01505512]
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I will now close my eyes lay down in bed and listen to Analord 3-4.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-02-20 06:54 [#01505515]
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on is amazing. the thunder.... ahhh yes
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 06:55 [#01505518]
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On GAK from Allmusic:
"Admittedly, anyone who's as prolific as James can fall a little from grace. There's such little similarity between the pieces that in all likelihood it's as if he took a couple song sketches to try out some new equipment and decided to release an EP, albeit anonymously. Warp has engaged in this sort of secrecy before, with uncredited one-offs from novelty titles like "Rubber Johnny" and "Woodenspoon." Word gets around, however, when obscure Aphex Twin material surfaces, and the rabid fan will find (and tolerate) a wide variety of it. It's known among his followers how young James was when he first started recording, so perhaps GAK was the result of a gentle high-school daydreamer without much ever coming to mind. Most collectors will reluctantly admit -- this is a release to own, rather than listen to."
"Woodenspoon." ?????
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 07:00 [#01505526]
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I love simpe tracks like Iz-Us and Byddonchord that simple (track on Drukqs) or whatever its called, but its not dull in anyway, and the u can tell the difference between these and the overall sound on analord 1-2 and 10. But yeah thats his point with this release, Im just and hoping I want more analord tracks like analord 10, over and out (think I got my point across now lol).
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zigzag
from … on 2005-02-20 07:02 [#01505530]
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well if he didn't released this afx stuff all the afx fans would get disapointed wouldn't they.
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zigzag
from … on 2005-02-20 07:05 [#01505533]
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just wait for analord 09 and i think u will be satisfied
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 07:09 [#01505536]
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is anal 9 9 trax?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-20 07:14 [#01505537]
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i always look out for unkown rdj aliases, recently he used dj olive???!!! just in case there are sum releases he's sneaked out, as has been suggested on here before.
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zigzag
from … on 2005-02-20 07:14 [#01505538]
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dunno
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-20 07:40 [#01505567]
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i think there is a dj olive , that has worked with kim gordon on some bits n pieces.
"fades, effects, tricks and bits LOL :) " i can't really detect many tricks , or LOLs for that matter , on fenix funk , it is simply a damn good break with some ace melodies and great basslines, that keeps on moving and varying . i think you are trying to say it is more intricate in its composition than the others. in any case i think 10 is brilliant, and yes probably fenx funk is probably more enjoyable than alot of the other tracks out so far, but that does not detract from the greatness of the other analords, some of the lushest electronica ever imo.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 07:40 [#01505568]
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I dont like those old drum machines that much, im not too found of the sound..and 4 on the floor beats can be pretty irritating sometimes.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 07:48 [#01505575]
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Midievil Rave 1 and 2 and Breathe March? do I smell leftovers?? Who like Midievil Rave 1, I can bet my last bottom dollar if it wasnt Aphex who made it your would have laughed and say it sucks if I said I made it and wanted response on it! If I play that track to all my friends who are into electronic music and said I made it, they would tell me its one of my worst tracks...
Klop Job, Crying In Your Face, Halibut Acid and Boxing tho..ace tracks! but I would have changed those old drum
machines but then the concept would have been broken and then it wouldnt have been analouge and then i wouldnt have been analord.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-02-20 07:57 [#01505584]
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You want him to remix the analord tracks. Basically. Give them the flow coma treatment. I think he was going for a certain style. A throw back to older music.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-02-20 08:00 [#01505585]
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You might not like those old drum machine sounds today, but in a couple years you might. I was like that. I only like really crisp stuff. My tastes changed. I really like the more duller grayish sound of analogue drums now. It's really just your opinion and opinions change.
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 08:09 [#01505588]
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yeah Bogala, thats correct, thats exaclty what I mean. Those AFX remixes of those CLASSIC acid tracks that flow coma and the other one..I like those much more than the original ones.
U really like the drums on Bwoon Dub, Home made polysynth and Pissed Up In SE1, dont u want "better" drums!?!?!!? :)
its like Flow Coma AFX mix could be on Analord 10 and the original Flow Coma by 808 State could have been on analord 1. :) u get my point.
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-20 08:11 [#01505590]
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imo analord 3 and 4 (or so) have bad mix levels
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 08:11 [#01505591]
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my topic name should change to "Please RDJ give them the flow coma treatment" thats classic ;)
"A throw back to older music" yeah he wanted to do that but he could have done it in a updated form, like Analord 10 and MEN1 :)
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 08:14 [#01505592]
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u have the mp3s or the vinyl? because on the vinyl the sound is nice.
3-4 is a step forward from 1-2 tho. Klop Job sounds me like.
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-20 08:16 [#01505594]
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dont have it yet getting a player soon, im not sure wether ill buy 3 and 4, maybe the whole lot (got 1,2,10 sofar) when everything released
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Archrival
on 2005-02-20 08:20 [#01505597]
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"I really like the more duller grayish sound"
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-02-20 08:20 [#01505599]
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dewd, the drums in bwoon dub couldn't get any better, but yeah. Like windowlicker is a sort of cut up remix of a simpler track, and I think it's his most perfect track. So, I can feel what you are sayin'. I mentioned remix analord to afx on the mu forum. Before he creeped into the darkness.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-02-20 08:22 [#01505601]
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im just listening to JAroen's mp3's. Thanks JAroen! teehee.
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