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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 11:54 [#01502618]
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i haven't listened to draft in a real long time, but i dug it out just to compare the two, and i must say that i have no idea why some people find it hard to belive that leak 1 (the long version) is fake. what's the difference there?? it's like it was the same album almost..ahh
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 11:55 [#01502621]
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I am in complete agreement with you.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 11:55 [#01502622]
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I'm kind of surprised to see you obsessing over all this ae-malarky.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-17 11:56 [#01502623]
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(winks / chuckles / prayers)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 11:58 [#01502627]
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i sometimes surprise myself..but im really interested in hearing some opinions on this, because as hard as i try i can't find much difference..
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-17 11:59 [#01502629]
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I think thats the point. leak version 1 is old material. :)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-17 11:59 [#01502631]
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Is it because someone's sampled bits out of Draft and messed about with it and called it Untilted?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-17 11:59 [#01502632]
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ban him
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:00 [#01502635]
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i see..that'd be nice!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-17 12:00 [#01502639]
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ban who?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-17 12:01 [#01502644]
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i wonder what made them call it untilted? i'm guessing that it's not a reference to my minature snooker table i had as a kid
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:03 [#01502645]
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ha.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:06 [#01502647]
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what made me bring this up is people saying untilted is way too simplistic to be autechre see and saying how much more complex was draft. i beg your pardon?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:09 [#01502649]
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I have no idea. I haven't listened to either leaks.
I'll wait for the real thing, as in: not in mp3-form.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 12:09 [#01502650]
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I, for one, amd more interested in the implications of supposed fakes seeded onto the peer to peer networks and fueled/mutated on messageboards, than the actual music itself.
Very interesting techno-socio observations! I am anxious to see how it unfolds.
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cx
from Norway on 2005-02-17 12:11 [#01502653]
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qrter wanna fuck
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:12 [#01502654]
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well that sjort version was obviously fake..very amateurish..but im sure this long version is real...im not concerned either way really as there's plenty of other music i can listen to, it's just that i usually go with the board hype :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:14 [#01502657]
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nerd.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:15 [#01502658]
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whore!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-17 12:19 [#01502666]
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I think pomme knows something we don't know. Pomme de terre speaks to Phobiazero who speaks to Sean and Rob.
Usually less then 3 degrees of separation can confirm something substantial, right?
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nacmat
on 2005-02-17 12:19 [#01502667]
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how many leaks are there?
are they diferent albums? so some of them are surely fakes then
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Archrival
on 2005-02-17 12:20 [#01502668]
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leak one can be AE, but then I like draft 7.30 much more.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 12:20 [#01502670]
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-02-17 12:20 [#01502672]
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yeah, the sorta guerilla advertising type stuff that they're getting from this is neat.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:23 [#01502676]
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two, but one is quite obviously fake, although they used the songs from the leak one. first leak is definitely autechre, be it their old music or the new album. personally im almost certain its the real untilted.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 12:23 [#01502677]
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I know nothing
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nacmat
on 2005-02-17 12:28 [#01502681]
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loopz has some nice opinions on this in his forum
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Archrival
on 2005-02-17 12:34 [#01502686]
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whos loopz? link please
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-17 12:35 [#01502689]
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i see bush!
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nacmat
on 2005-02-17 12:43 [#01502691]
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loopz is the admin of the best orbital webpage
go to forums and then go to the music forum, the thread is up there in first page and its called:
Autechre - new album and tour in 2005
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nacmat
on 2005-02-17 12:44 [#01502695]
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"yeah i believe it is. I've listened to all of it and i'm a tad confused as whether to believe i am listening to the new autechre album or someone who has created quite a convincing fake.
The problems i have with the album (and remember this is just one listen).
1) Its mainly rhythmic and to the point where there is nothing but that! Some may say this is typical Autechre but really it isnt if u actually listen to Autechre deeply (strokes chin). There is always some melody underneath even if the melody may be fragmented big time! :)
2) There are noticeable samples from Draft 7.30 within a couple of tracks. Autechre have sampled old works but this appears to be a poor mans kind of sampling and doesnt really add anything. i'm not explaining myself very good here but it was noticeable which makes me doubt.
3) Everything seems too loop driven. Ok so we all know Autechre are loop driven but they tend to make their loops very long and they interchange a lot. These tracks contain very noticeable loops and make it more accessible (this is why Stimpee probably enjoyed it :P ).
4) It sounds like a jam. Its the kind of thing i would expect to hear in a live environment. Not a bad thing but i wudnt expect Autechre to release this kind of thing.
Someone mentioned elsewhere that this release is either
1) a good new Autechre album 2) a good fake Autechre album 3) a bad new Autechre album 4) a bad fake Autechre album
On one listen i am geared towards number 2 because it doesnt sound bad but there is a lot missing that i would expect Autechre to do. Long tracks are normally 3/4 minutes of random builds until it comes together and then of course they sometimes mash it up again (like Draft!). We have plenty of builds but nothing that gels and in fact there tends to be two or three parts to most tracks.
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nacmat
on 2005-02-17 12:45 [#01502697]
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anyway within time we shall see if this is legit or not. Its worthy of a download before the release. If it IS Autechres album then i wud say that we have gone back one step as there is just not enough in the album apart from some interesting (scratches chin again) beats :)
Be interested to hear what others think when they hear it :)"
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nacmat
on 2005-02-17 12:45 [#01502699]
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those two posts are a the pasted post of loopz at his site
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:56 [#01502706]
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boy will he be badly surprised when he finally gets the album..
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-02-17 13:14 [#01502732]
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I think that autechre are at their best now ... Considering all their releases... It's been getting better, more technical, etc... In my opinion, if there would be a time to be at their peak.. It would be now.. Untilted will be rich in everything ... I can't wait.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-18 07:14 [#01502935]
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AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT! AUGMATIC DISPORT BREAKDOWN IS THE SHIT!
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 07:18 [#01502941]
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its ae. not untilted.
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nacmat
on 2005-02-18 08:29 [#01503092]
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why?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-18 08:30 [#01503093]
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well, becaue im 99% sure that leak one is the real untilted.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-02-18 09:34 [#01503236]
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i'm sure it's a fake
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-02-18 09:40 [#01503242]
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Oh I just love the wait
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-02-18 10:15 [#01503312]
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"leak" "untitled" "fake" these words make me ill. another wanking untitled thread. Sir Tolstoyed, You don't really like Autechre, do You.
I'd expect a more interesting topic from You ! Make one NOW !
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