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offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-02-08 21:14 [#01492378]
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i just said, it's mother fucking LP8


 

offline disasemble from United States on 2005-02-08 21:41 [#01492384]
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also, phobia said its over an hour long, so i dont see why
there should be 1 or 2 more tracks. its not as if we are
getting shafted by its length. the overall time is important
here, not how many tracks there are.

it also means they are longer songs (possibly), which in my
opinion is when autechre are at their best; when the songs
are given time to develop and morph.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-02-08 21:50 [#01492389]
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rob and sean load so much on ONE track, that i would be fine
with just fricken one or two fricken 4-minute songs.


 

offline disasemble from United States on 2005-02-08 22:04 [#01492397]
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yeah, i could see that, but for me it doesnt work out im
afraid :(

like draft 7.30 had tracks that i thought just ended WAY too
abruptly, or didnt develop as much as i would have liked
them too. theres nothing wrong with it your right, but 8
tracks is very welcome to me as long as its a good hour or
so in length.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-02-08 22:20 [#01492400]
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those tracks that end abruptly, youre probably talking about
surripere or v-proc - you were not keeping up with them or
was doing something else while you were tuning in... they
end perfectly. listen again but you have to stay on those
beats man.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2005-02-08 22:40 [#01492401]
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well at only 8 eight tracks it's short track wise for a full
length but you've already said it's over an hour so i'm not
concerned anymore :)


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2005-02-08 22:40 [#01492403]
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uhm please disregard one of the eights


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-02-08 22:41 [#01492404]
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these are possibly the most revealing track names ever


 

offline disasemble from United States on 2005-02-09 00:58 [#01492423]
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surripere and v-proc are the furthest from my mind. i didnt
mean end abruptly literally--i meant that certain songs end
when i think they could have progressed more. obviously
surripere doesnt need to progress anymore, its length and
progression alone is what i was talking about--the track
builds and morphs around into greatness. its one of my
favorite autechre tracks. which is why i prefer "longer"
tracks, so youve misunderstood me there, at my fault.

v-proc im indifferent about, i honestly dont care about it
and it fits into what im trying to say too. sure theres a
lot of pretty awesome sounds flying around (v-proc is one of
the few songs that i feel has good stereo depth compared to
the rest of the albumm, which is annoyingly monophonic), but
i feel it meanders around more than it progresses into
something interesting. yes it does progress and change
throughout its entire course, but i just dont like how it
does this. its infact quite opposite from surripere.

i think the songs im mostly thinking of are tapr and theme
of sudden roundabout.

the former starts off with a premise and sticks with it
until it ends only after 3 or so minutes. it does change and
its obvious that is does, i dont need to "listen to it
closer" or "stay on the beats, man", because ive listened to
them plenty of times and i know how i feel about them. i
just feel it starts out as a pretty interesting track and
goes nowhere. theme of sudden roundabout progresses in a
cool way and i like the track. it has melodic instances of
some of their live shows from the confield tour as well,
which was pretty awesome. but right when the track sounds
like its ready to gear up, it ends.

i prefer the autechre tracks that are longer and have more
time to develop, is all. nothing more to it. which is shy im
quite excited about it just being 8 tracks.

well, that was retardly long! you can just skip all that and
read the paragraph above. or you can ignore it of course.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-09 01:10 [#01492425]
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disasemble---I agree with everything you just said. And
finally, someone else agrees that Draft sounds monophonic!
When I first heard it on headphones, I was shocked at how
"dead" and "mono-ey" it sounded (apart from a few instances
where tracks utlized the stereo field properly.)


 

offline George_Kaplan on 2005-02-09 03:15 [#01492475]
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properly? what are you the stereo police?


 

offline uzim on 2005-02-09 05:18 [#01492545]
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crazy how a simple tracklist can keep people here talking
for... 111 posts so far... (112 now)


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2005-02-09 05:40 [#01492549]
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They're great titles.


 

offline uzim on 2005-02-09 06:22 [#01492567]
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yeah, right. whatever. : )


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-09 06:44 [#01492574]
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the only argument i am trying to make about 'only 8 tracks'
is...consider a silver mt zion, their last lp had 4 tracks -
its about 60 mins in length - but when you listen to it it
seems short, it ends after the 4th track, even though the
track lengths are around 15 mins, there are still only 4
tracks - sometimes i get the same vibe with ae releases, a
la confield.
ps i love autechre. / cant wait for this release


 

offline Ganymede from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2005-02-09 10:20 [#01492801]
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Obviously having only 8 tracks and calling it an LP is
karmic balance for the number of tracks on EP7.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-09 10:36 [#01492849]
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they must be really trying to balance the scales then,
considering lp6 was 8 tracks, lp7 was 10 tracks and lp8 is 8
tracks.

ep7 must be heavier than them all with 11 tracks.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-09 10:38 [#01492854]
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lp6 8 tracks 9 tracks whoops


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-02-09 14:10 [#01493195]
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this mix made me 10x happier than analord


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-02-09 14:27 [#01493221]
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TOO MANY TROLLS

CLOSE THREAD PLEASE

OH PLEASE


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-09 14:30 [#01493225]
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A1 lcc
A2 ipacial section
B1 pro radii
B2 augmatic disport
C1 iera
C2 fermium
D1 the trees
D2 sublimit

no tracklengths = forbidden
omg, i just realized that phobiazero already has this
release! you lucky bastard you, well i cant say that i am
very anxious to hear there, specially since i will be
getting it last.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-02-09 15:04 [#01493334]
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oh this is the wrong thread, i was referring to the bbc 15
min mix


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-02-09 16:28 [#01493475]
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I see tapr and theme of a sudden roundabout as interludes,
or a forward and epilogue to surripere, respectively. They
work fine. Funny how I always thought they were much
shorter than they actually are, I never looked until now.
Tapr still is the shortest track on the album, but theme of
sudden roundabout is longer than Prince Mothy Moth at
least.

With the track names on Untilted, they sound a bit 'done',
maybe this is some indication as to what they are doing with
the album? It's a re-tread, hopping on the oldskool
bandwagon? I mean, 'sublimit', 'augmatic disport', 'pro
radii', 'fermium', Ooh, maths and Latin. Ipacial section.
Scoff. The trees sounds good, but again, it's like, the
trees? Whokay.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-02-09 17:27 [#01493530]
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where did you steal the cover from? impressive!


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-02-09 17:31 [#01493532]
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that's when you've been smoking too much. normal times are
way shorter.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-02-09 17:32 [#01493533]
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i'd love it to be this :)


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-02-09 17:32 [#01493534]
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LOL


 

offline disasemble from United States on 2005-02-09 18:15 [#01493575]
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dunno, i dont really care about track titles. well i do, but
not in a "it will determine how it sounds" sort of sense.

when my friend posted the track titles for confield back in
2001, i thought they were a joke. like he made them up on
the spot. and confield is my favorite autechre album.

plus draft had titles that felt like it could have been
labeled as "re-tread" if we took the titles at face value.
so you know, stuff and things.


 

offline Loopz from Brum Land on 2005-02-10 02:01 [#01493865]
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I cant see why people are getting so worked up and getting
so excited about track lengths and album lengths. The idea
is just to listen to the fucking thing for fucks sake :)


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-02-10 10:46 [#01494366]
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'music is math'


 

offline uzim on 2005-02-10 10:52 [#01494373]
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in the past (like, XVIth century? i'm not sure) people
studied music like math.

nowadays, Autechre's music among others might highly rely on
mathematical stuff, but not every music... : )


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-02-10 10:53 [#01494379]
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the categories of "LP" and "EP" refer to the length of the
music, NOT the amount of tracks.

you can have an ep with 50 tracks or an lp with 1 track.
the amount of songs doesn't have anything to do with the
length.


 

offline fungusman from Monster Island on 2005-02-10 11:19 [#01494405]
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I thought the track titles were:

1. er79phgreap939p
2. so;euh IHERPIH
3. IHR 6JEPJ
4. DIPJGESP
5. ztesliub """" eroireihtre0p3480
6. IWr/$(_27872-249-u43



 

offline magicant from toronto (Canada) on 2005-02-10 11:26 [#01494410]
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an LP must have more than 1 track.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-02-10 11:32 [#01494417]
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i have at least a few LP's with one track. one song can be
fourty minutes long. sorry, you're wrong.


 

offline magicant from toronto (Canada) on 2005-02-10 11:33 [#01494418]
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what's on the other side of the record then?


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-02-10 11:34 [#01494419]
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it's one song divided on two sides. when i said "track" i
meant "song".


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-10 11:36 [#01494420]
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their song titles fit their music very well. perhaps it's
all about phonetics.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-02-10 12:37 [#01494450]
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Why the fuck do people have a problem with it only having 8
tracks? I know a lot of great albums with less than ten
songs. This is silly.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-02-10 12:41 [#01494451]
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It means they're Just Not Trying Hard Enough.


 

offline ymenard on 2005-02-10 16:31 [#01494724]
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Bah, Chiastic Slide and Confield had 9, Tri Repetae had 10.
Ain't much of a difference. 9 tracks averaging 8 minutes
or 8 tracks averaging 9 minutes.


 

offline magicant from toronto (Canada) on 2005-02-10 23:54 [#01495144]
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when i said "track", i meant "track".


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-11 00:15 [#01495152]
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It was be shit because there is only 8 tracks. That is a
fact.

But I think it will be good, because I love Ae and they are
the best and everything they ever do is great! Praise! Amen!


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-11 03:57 [#01495299]
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I have an album with 1 track and another with 99 tracks...
both total about 60 mins, I don't really see what the fuss
is about the amount of tracks, all that matters is that its
closer to 60 minutes that 30 minutes :)


 

offline tallyho from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2005-02-11 04:07 [#01495306]
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tracks, shmacks


 

offline Lerschumbo from MEMBER SINCE 2004-02-27 on 2005-02-11 04:28 [#01495323]
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Or maybe they should go down the Gescom road and release
minidisc albums eith what, 80 little things. Would you
people prefer that?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-11 04:37 [#01495325]
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i would prefer something good.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2005-02-11 16:58 [#01496015]
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Well, 8 tracks is fine with me.
Autechre is actually one of those few bands where quantity
can actually be more important than quality, and that's only
because their standard quality is so damn high you always
want more.

In that sense, 8 tracks can feel a little short. Less ideas,
less different sounds to enjoy.

But I'm not concerned, for every album they do is so
carefully planned out and executed that I will probably feel
very happy when I'm done listening to it.

Also about track titles, as was said on irc today, a title
can add, do nothing, but also subtract from a track.
Personally I love the titles on this album.

Finally, I'm most excited about the atmosphere they've gone
for in this album.
Confield was more minimal and abstract in its approach,
draft 7.30 was somewhat "wet" all through, and also a bit
nostalgic, as heard by the high pitched melodies on xylin
room and p:ntil.

So yeah I'm just VERY excited in general, and I know I've
been prattling on in this post, but god help me, autechre
fucking owns and I love them so much.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-12 04:19 [#01496234]
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who gives a fuck what the tracktitles are.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-12 04:25 [#01496235]
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"I like Autechre, I love Incunabula and Amber and then
lots of bits of everything afterwards but nothing as a
whole, but really, those titles, IDM cliche alert in MASSIVE
flashing
lights. "augmatic disport"? Oh yes, that'll be the "rndm
bllx mix" if I'm not mistaken."


which would be a problem if they were not some of the people
who started that whole dumb trend, which is why I think they
should be forgiven.

kind of like OAPs that have gotten set in their ways.

just like Aphex Twirn with such imaginative titles like
"xmd5a" should be forgiven.


 


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