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i just said, it's mother fucking LP8 |
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also, phobia said its over an hour long, so i dont see why there should be 1 or 2 more tracks. its not as if we are getting shafted by its length. the overall time is important here, not how many tracks there are. it also means they are longer songs (possibly), which in my opinion is when autechre are at their best; when the songs are given time to develop and morph. |
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rob and sean load so much on ONE track, that i would be fine with just fricken one or two fricken 4-minute songs. |
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yeah, i could see that, but for me it doesnt work out im afraid :( like draft 7.30 had tracks that i thought just ended WAY too abruptly, or didnt develop as much as i would have liked them too. theres nothing wrong with it your right, but 8 tracks is very welcome to me as long as its a good hour or so in length. |
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those tracks that end abruptly, youre probably talking about surripere or v-proc - you were not keeping up with them or was doing something else while you were tuning in... they end perfectly. listen again but you have to stay on those beats man. |
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well at only 8 eight tracks it's short track wise for a full length but you've already said it's over an hour so i'm not concerned anymore :) |
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uhm please disregard one of the eights |
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these are possibly the most revealing track names ever |
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surripere and v-proc are the furthest from my mind. i didnt mean end abruptly literally--i meant that certain songs end when i think they could have progressed more. obviously surripere doesnt need to progress anymore, its length and progression alone is what i was talking about--the track builds and morphs around into greatness. its one of my favorite autechre tracks. which is why i prefer "longer" tracks, so youve misunderstood me there, at my fault. v-proc im indifferent about, i honestly dont care about it and it fits into what im trying to say too. sure theres a lot of pretty awesome sounds flying around (v-proc is one of the few songs that i feel has good stereo depth compared to the rest of the albumm, which is annoyingly monophonic), but i feel it meanders around more than it progresses into something interesting. yes it does progress and change throughout its entire course, but i just dont like how it does this. its infact quite opposite from surripere. i think the songs im mostly thinking of are tapr and theme of sudden roundabout. the former starts off with a premise and sticks with it until it ends only after 3 or so minutes. it does change and its obvious that is does, i dont need to "listen to it closer" or "stay on the beats, man", because ive listened to them plenty of times and i know how i feel about them. i just feel it starts out as a pretty interesting track and goes nowhere. theme of sudden roundabout progresses in a cool way and i like the track. it has melodic instances of some of their live shows from the confield tour as well, which was pretty awesome. but right when the track sounds like its ready to gear up, it ends. i prefer the autechre tracks that are longer and have more time to develop, is all. nothing more to it. which is shy im quite excited about it just being 8 tracks. well, that was retardly long! you can just skip all that and read the paragraph above. or you can ignore it of course. |
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disasemble---I agree with everything you just said. And finally, someone else agrees that Draft sounds monophonic! When I first heard it on headphones, I was shocked at how "dead" and "mono-ey" it sounded (apart from a few instances where tracks utlized the stereo field properly.) |
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properly? what are you the stereo police? |
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crazy how a simple tracklist can keep people here talking for... 111 posts so far... (112 now) |
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They're great titles. |
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yeah, right. whatever. : ) |
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the only argument i am trying to make about 'only 8 tracks' is...consider a silver mt zion, their last lp had 4 tracks - its about 60 mins in length - but when you listen to it it seems short, it ends after the 4th track, even though the track lengths are around 15 mins, there are still only 4 tracks - sometimes i get the same vibe with ae releases, a la confield. ps i love autechre. / cant wait for this release |
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Obviously having only 8 tracks and calling it an LP is karmic balance for the number of tracks on EP7. |
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they must be really trying to balance the scales then, considering lp6 was 8 tracks, lp7 was 10 tracks and lp8 is 8 tracks. ep7 must be heavier than them all with 11 tracks. |
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lp6 |
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this mix made me 10x happier than analord |
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TOO MANY TROLLS CLOSE THREAD PLEASE OH PLEASE |
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A1 lcc A2 ipacial section B1 pro radii B2 augmatic disport C1 iera C2 fermium D1 the trees D2 sublimit no tracklengths = forbidden omg, i just realized that phobiazero already has this release! you lucky bastard you, well i cant say that i am very anxious to hear there, specially since i will be getting it last. |
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oh this is the wrong thread, i was referring to the bbc 15 min mix |
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I see tapr and theme of a sudden roundabout as interludes, or a forward and epilogue to surripere, respectively. They work fine. Funny how I always thought they were much shorter than they actually are, I never looked until now. Tapr still is the shortest track on the album, but theme of sudden roundabout is longer than Prince Mothy Moth at least. With the track names on Untilted, they sound a bit 'done', maybe this is some indication as to what they are doing with the album? It's a re-tread, hopping on the oldskool bandwagon? I mean, 'sublimit', 'augmatic disport', 'pro radii', 'fermium', Ooh, maths and Latin. Ipacial section. Scoff. The trees sounds good, but again, it's like, the trees? Whokay. |
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where did you steal the cover from? impressive! |
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that's when you've been smoking too much. normal times are way shorter. |
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i'd love it to be this :) |
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LOL |
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dunno, i dont really care about track titles. well i do, but not in a "it will determine how it sounds" sort of sense. when my friend posted the track titles for confield back in 2001, i thought they were a joke. like he made them up on the spot. and confield is my favorite autechre album. plus draft had titles that felt like it could have been labeled as "re-tread" if we took the titles at face value. so you know, stuff and things. |
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I cant see why people are getting so worked up and getting so excited about track lengths and album lengths. The idea is just to listen to the fucking thing for fucks sake :) |
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'music is math' |
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in the past (like, XVIth century? i'm not sure) people studied music like math. nowadays, Autechre's music among others might highly rely on mathematical stuff, but not every music... : ) |
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the categories of "LP" and "EP" refer to the length of the music, NOT the amount of tracks. you can have an ep with 50 tracks or an lp with 1 track. the amount of songs doesn't have anything to do with the length. |
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I thought the track titles were: 1. er79phgreap939p 2. so;euh IHERPIH 3. IHR 6JEPJ 4. DIPJGESP 5. ztesliub """" eroireihtre0p3480 6. IWr/$(_27872-249-u43 |
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an LP must have more than 1 track. |
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i have at least a few LP's with one track. one song can be fourty minutes long. sorry, you're wrong. |
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what's on the other side of the record then? |
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it's one song divided on two sides. when i said "track" i meant "song". |
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their song titles fit their music very well. perhaps it's all about phonetics. |
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Why the fuck do people have a problem with it only having 8 tracks? I know a lot of great albums with less than ten songs. This is silly. |
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It means they're Just Not Trying Hard Enough. |
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Bah, Chiastic Slide and Confield had 9, Tri Repetae had 10. Ain't much of a difference. 9 tracks averaging 8 minutes or 8 tracks averaging 9 minutes. |
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when i said "track", i meant "track". |
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It was be shit because there is only 8 tracks. That is a fact. But I think it will be good, because I love Ae and they are the best and everything they ever do is great! Praise! Amen! |
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I have an album with 1 track and another with 99 tracks... both total about 60 mins, I don't really see what the fuss is about the amount of tracks, all that matters is that its closer to 60 minutes that 30 minutes :) |
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tracks, shmacks |
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Or maybe they should go down the Gescom road and release minidisc albums eith what, 80 little things. Would you people prefer that? |
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i would prefer something good. |
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Well, 8 tracks is fine with me. Autechre is actually one of those few bands where quantity can actually be more important than quality, and that's only because their standard quality is so damn high you always want more. In that sense, 8 tracks can feel a little short. Less ideas, less different sounds to enjoy. But I'm not concerned, for every album they do is so carefully planned out and executed that I will probably feel very happy when I'm done listening to it. Also about track titles, as was said on irc today, a title can add, do nothing, but also subtract from a track. Personally I love the titles on this album. Finally, I'm most excited about the atmosphere they've gone for in this album. Confield was more minimal and abstract in its approach, draft 7.30 was somewhat "wet" all through, and also a bit nostalgic, as heard by the high pitched melodies on xylin room and p:ntil. So yeah I'm just VERY excited in general, and I know I've been prattling on in this post, but god help me, autechre fucking owns and I love them so much. |
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who gives a fuck what the tracktitles are. |
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"I like Autechre, I love Incunabula and Amber and then lots of bits of everything afterwards but nothing as a whole, but really, those titles, IDM cliche alert in MASSIVE flashing lights. "augmatic disport"? Oh yes, that'll be the "rndm bllx mix" if I'm not mistaken." which would be a problem if they were not some of the people who started that whole dumb trend, which is why I think they should be forgiven. kind of like OAPs that have gotten set in their ways. just like Aphex Twirn with such imaginative titles like "xmd5a" should be forgiven. |
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