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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-08 01:41 [#00082998]
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nacmat.....ever seen the works of A. Gaudi in Barcelona =]
he's my favorite architect
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 01:44 [#00083003]
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I love gaudi I am an architect from madrid, but barcelona is where i would like to live.
i am very glad you liked it in spain. I understand that you like gaudi, he made like a magic world out of his architecture
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-08 01:52 [#00083009]
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OMG.....i spent 2 years studying architecture. Gaudi's work is like a fairy tale......esp his Casa Mila....the ceilings and the chimneys......ehhehe
i didn't make it to madrid, but spent a week in barcelona which had the BEST food in all of europe =]
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 01:55 [#00083010]
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yea good food in spain and very good up there in catalunya. I am so glad that you liked it you really studied architecture? but you finished or changed onto other thing? eitherway is very nice to see a person from the powefull america interested in my country´s architecture
casa mila is indeed one of his best
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-08 02:07 [#00083024]
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i have three degree's....ART, Art History and History.
i started working and wasn't able to finish my masters in architecture.......but i love it!
it's a passion that i rarely get to indulge myself in cos it takes a lot of time.....that i don't have.
yes i wanna go to the costa del sol in spain.....i'm half italian/half spanish =]
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 02:18 [#00083045]
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ok whenever you come to spain remember the pinkhead of nacmat... there are lots of crazy but funny people in here... BTW come with your boyfriend if not you will have 1000´s of spaniards besides you all day... lol
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-08 04:10 [#00083115]
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HAHHA.......maybe i'll leave the BF at HOME!!! lol
i will remember the PINKMAN.....and we'll have to eat some tapas...mmmmmm man i'm making myself hungry =]
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 12:10 [#00083274]
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yea i know a place in granada (town in the south) whar tapas are free witn the drink... and they are great...
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 12:17 [#00083278]
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whar=where (sorry)
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 12:19 [#00083279]
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this weekend I ll go to Cadiz (andalucia) to the carnivals ( i dont really know if this word exists in english)
so see you all on monday.... party time... drinking and danzing bad music all night long.... yeeeesss i like it
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-08 15:33 [#00083366]
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I went to the big cathedral (Censa Famillia?) in 1992. At that time they had just started using concrete reather than stone, I would love to see it again and see how far they had got with it. I have a photograph of my girlfriend infrount of the green one on the Rambles, I couldn't go that time and it made me so jealous. But it turns out she had never been to the big park or my favorite which is a little church just out of the city which would make the best club ever!!!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-08 16:00 [#00083386]
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I saw the cathedral and it was just like it was out of a batman film or a fairy tale, with its huge spires.
I read Gaudi spent the end of his life a forgotten pauper and when he got hit by a tram, everyone thought he was someone unimportant so didn't bother getting him medical attention.
I visited spain a few years ago and actually didn't find the food that great until the last night, where we were in a place on the north coast called St Sebastian. We got this platter of beef (exciting in itself since I don't eat beef here cos of mad cows disease) and it was extremely rare with salt on, it was so perfect, that was one of my favourite all time meals.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:47 [#00083842]
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Sagrada Familia is too beautiful to put into words......one must see O_o the work of art for themselves. it's a shame it's not following the building guidelines of it's architect.
010101....were you refering to the Park Guell? it's too intricate and amazing as well the mosiacs are so magical. it's truely like being on another planet.
for anyone who may be interested this is a great site with pictures of these works of art
http://www.op.net/~jmeltzer/Gaudi/works.html
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melack
from barcielwave on 2002-02-09 18:05 [#00084004]
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barcelona is the best place to live, i modestly think :) im very pleased you like it!!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-09 20:17 [#00084062]
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OHHHHH you live in Barcelona.....lucky
i loved europe.....everyone was so friendly and nice....i had such a fun time experiencing all the different cultures (=
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LionelCosgrove
from Baden Württemberg (Germany) on 2002-02-09 20:23 [#00084068]
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yes i love to be in different countries too. every country has his own atmosphere. i was in barcelona too 3 years ago. i sow these buildings and they were very faszinating.
---from germany
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nacmat
on 2002-02-12 12:36 [#00086248]
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great link... thanks very much...you are really an expert on gaudi´s work... that makes me very happy... you have a great architecture taste.
now i am only a bit jelaous because i live in madrid and not in barcelona as i would like... and non of you seem to have been here in madrid... its normal though... madrid has good things too... but in my opinion is way back from barcelona´s beauty
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-12 23:09 [#00086832]
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who is your favourite architect?
have you been to bilbao and seen the gueggenheim there by frank gehry? i almost passed out when i saw the building..ehhehe
i actually went to europe specifically to see art and architecture by....le courbusier....mies van der rohe...see the bauhaus....lots of boring stuff to non-architects...eheh
it's my goal to see the 100 tallest buildings in the world.....i've been to 33...ehehhe....working my way down ze list!
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nacmat
on 2002-02-12 23:11 [#00086837]
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no doubt about le corbusier being my favourite... nowadays i like rem koolhas from netherlands.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-12 23:13 [#00086842]
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I moved to Canada from Europe and the one thing I have noticed is that the Corbusian "Machine for Living" Philosophie did not fail in the Americas. Modernism failed in Europe because of this theory but it caught on over here.
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nacmat
on 2002-02-12 23:26 [#00086858]
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it worked on america because you are much more practical... not such big problems with tradition (customs?)
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-12 23:29 [#00086862]
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I also think that Amecan Culture embraces change rather than fearing it.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-13 07:57 [#00087250]
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i have to agree with both you...regarding Corbu's theories and why they went over so well in the NEW world.
it's because we're(US and Canada) relatively young countries compared to europe. as you mentioned nacmat our traditions and customs have only been around a couple of hundred years, so it's easier to embrace moderism.
i for one whilst in europe enjoyed the feeling that i was in an ancient land. i felt the history coming through the age old buildings and my surroundings really made me grateful for the experience of it all. =o)
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acyl18
from new haven (United States) on 2002-02-13 08:11 [#00087254]
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wow- just stumbled on this thread- you guys rock. :) It's like you all live in my brain... seen any of Sant'Elia's stuff? I remember seeing a drawing of his (a building) some years ago, and it was fucking amazing (I thought at the time)... Just got my missus a Gaudi book for her Bday- she's going back to school for landscape architecture.
I hope to own a Corbusier chaise lounge someday- my fav (w/the ponyskin/cow-print leather) I sat in one last month- I'm not usually so materialistic, but it was so damn comfy!!!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-13 17:55 [#00087550]
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I don't think modernism and modernist ideals have dissapated in the new world. But the whole concept of post modernism does not apply here. Then perhaps there should be a new "ism" in that aesthetic culture is evolving in a very differant way than it is Europe.
For Example; if you look at the leading contemporary fine artists of each continent you will notice that although they both reley on craft in essentially the same way. Europe is dependant on pastishe and parody where new world art is a better analogy of contempory life/culture.
Look at Damion Hurst vs. Jeff Koons
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-15 18:20 [#00089519]
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Has anybody but me read Walter Benjemin's theorys of mechanical reproduction and the death of the author(autorism)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-15 18:24 [#00089522]
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i love this topic.....ahhhhhh
ehehhe.....i have not read Benjamin's theories.....but i will read up and give you my thoughts.
i am also gonna look UP Hurst and Koons(although Koons sounds famil)
i'll get back to ya.....gotta love what i call ARCHITORTURE....ehehhe =]
btw....are you a student or architecture?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-15 18:29 [#00089526]
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Jeff Koons was the guy who married the Italian porn star Chicolina and had an explicit exhibition of photographs with her. He also made the big dog outside of Guginhiem Bilboa and some basketballs suspended in water.
Damion Hurst was most famous for cutting a cow and a calf in half and preserving them in glass tanks of fomaldahide. He also did sharks and sheep.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-15 18:31 [#00089529]
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I did my MA in contemporary social antropology and culture and wrote my thesis on computer games and their analogy to every day life.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-15 18:33 [#00089531]
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Dude i knew it....ehhehe i was in Bilboa and saw the sculpture....missed the photo's tho....worth seeing..eh?
hurst.....tho......not famil with. reminds me of that scene in the CELL tho. =) i do seem to remember a french artist/doctor who did the same thing with humans....they are fascinating they show the veins/arteries etc. very creepy. his name started with an 'R'....now you have me on the search of the world wide web....eheheh =]
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-15 18:35 [#00089534]
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cool..*is impressed*..i finished 1 1/2 years of my masters in architecture. but then i started making moolah and never finished. i will someday tho...ehehe
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-15 18:44 [#00089540]
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i've seen Sant'Elia's work....great italian architect if i'm not mistaken....his drawings are amazing.
GREAT for you wife for going into archtecture....we need MORE women to 'represent' in architecture....i mean have you ever sat in a FLW chair....omg....if a woman had designed that it woulda been comfy =)
i would kill for a hand drawing from gaudi, pei, or gehry....=}
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-02-15 20:17 [#00089647]
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Just to bring the level of conversation down a few notches...
For nearly ten years now, each time I hear or read "Barcelona", I get the urge to sing "Such a beautiful horizon!"
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