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offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-02 23:15 [#01485884]
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what is the one thing electronic music has taught you

... the one thing ... and now, you are throwing it right
back in its own face ... you are expecting too much and as a
result ... will uncalibrate your very existance.


 

offline boobah from pants on 2005-02-02 23:17 [#01485886]
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elusive from Detroit


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2005-02-02 23:17 [#01485887]
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Itss taught me that you dont need LIVE INSTRUMENTS to make
killer music.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-02-02 23:19 [#01485889]
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be more clear.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2005-02-02 23:34 [#01485893]
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boobah from pants on


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-02-02 23:35 [#01485894]
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in the belly of the beast

all your money

aaaaaaayaaayaaah

detroit, detroit, detroit detroit detroit


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2005-02-02 23:46 [#01485896]
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Electron music taught me to make booty-shakin' beatz, or
particle-shakin' for that matter.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 02:01 [#01485926]
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Electronic music has taught me this:

""

^ That's right.

Why is it wrong for people to compare music with other music
of the same type and have an opinion?


 

offline mort from Start As You Mean To Go On on 2005-02-03 02:14 [#01485931]
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Sekito Kisen Zen Master, regarded as smart said:
"The basic tone of life remains the same, and in it there
are some happy melodies and some sad melodies"

for me doesn't matter electronic or not....music is music


 

offline Lord Of Gays on 2005-02-03 03:09 [#01485950]
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Dear Elusive,

I'm sure we all understand that you have a problem with
language, and making topics like 'FENX FNUK FFIIVEE
BIATCH!!!1' is your equivalent of saying 'i like this tune',
but this is not how we should continue! You see, as soon as
people realise that analord is a load of horseshit,
especially parts 1 and 2, they can continue with their daily
lifes.

You seem to be stuck in a loop of fanboyism, which forces
you to create these kind of threads. Please, go fuck
yourself.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2005-02-03 03:13 [#01485952]
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shut the fuck up n00b. elusive speaks the truth!


 

offline Lord Of Gays on 2005-02-03 03:15 [#01485954]
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Anyone using words like 'uncalibrate' deserves to have their
kneecaps replaced by eggs


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 03:35 [#01485965]
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I honestly enjoyed all three releases so far.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-03 03:48 [#01485973]
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i liked all 3 analords as well..but the thing with
electronic music in general these days is that most of it
sounds exactly the same..take merck label for example -
their samplers sound like they were all made by the same guy
and that's just boring.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 06:58 [#01486058]
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tolstoyed, then maybe you should take control of the
drum machine!!


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2005-02-03 06:59 [#01486060]
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Your punctuation sucks.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-02-03 07:03 [#01486069]
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what is the one thing for christ's sake? i can't stand the
suspense!!


 

offline S M Pennyworth from East Timor on 2005-02-03 08:28 [#01486154]
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he's holding it in 'til the finished version of xltronic.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 08:31 [#01486157]
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The whole kneecap - eggs thing was an lol oppurtunity


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2005-02-03 08:34 [#01486159]
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my very existance was uncalibrated just last night.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 08:37 [#01486164]
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When it comes to something you like (lets say music) there
is no possible way for one person to expect too much.

In this case i will assume you are refering to Analord. Well
i feel that Richard has set the bar for quality quite high
over the course of his carrear. Analord 1 & 2 do not meet
those standards.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 08:44 [#01486169]
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No, not speaking of analord?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-03 08:46 [#01486172]
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im not really concerned with it..there are still many nice
electronica albums but what does it for me is plenty of
awesome rock oriented music..


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 08:47 [#01486175]
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but since you bring up "meeting standards"

what if these tracks really were 10years old, or 12 ... 15?
and he's just rehashing some of them.

what makes it any different that you would call it a classic
if it was released on one of the ABs, versus today's release
which is "supposed to be new material"

... so if he rereleased an old masterpeice he had sitting
away, you would then assume it was made today and say it
doesn't meet some sort of "richard d. james standards"

i have got to get a complete listing of the RDJ standards
faxed to me pronto!

maybe the dazzle of drukqs has warped our minds for the
future


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-03 08:51 [#01486184]
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what panda might have meant is, that rdj set high standards
with every new release so far, and that is why he expected
something more from him with than analord 1&2.
personally i don't have a problem with it because i like all
3 analords for now, but it's very obvious that anal 10 is
something completly different to anal 1&2, but this is what
i always wanted - as much of his unreleased stuff as
possible :)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-02-03 08:53 [#01486185]
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What is your first language?


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:03 [#01486195]
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tolstoyed got it right on the dot. Going through all of his
releases he was always doing something to bring something
awesome to the table.

I was always into his releases. Even smojphace. I liked it
because in my mind he reached out and attempted to do
something in the noise catagory. Even though it is a small
genre it has a pretty dedicated fanbase. I liked the fact
that he did that.

I view Drukqs as "fucking great". I always got into his work
which is why i am here.

Analord 10 to me was great because i was viewing this as all
the other situations.

When 1 & 2 appeared i listened to them and it didnt grip me.
To me i found that it (for his standards) is subpar. As i
have previously mentioned there are other artists on this
board that (IMO) could do better.

I know that might sound crazy but i find myself listening to
"the memory dog" often and i really like the goon's work.
With so much out there i find that this really doesnt fit
the bill when looking at his talent as a whole overall.

when i hear "analord" I think lord of analouge. In this case
i think that is a pretty bold statement that (at least with
1 & 2) he doesnt live up to. I am sure there is already
plenty of material like this that is out there and quite
better.

Now i will admit that we still have 3-9 to see where this
series goes and i am quite interested in hearing it.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:04 [#01486197]
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i just hope the series continues and maybe we see a little
polygon or ICBYD style up in there


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:09 [#01486209]
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That would be more than great. ICBYD doesnt contain anything
that i dont like. Polygon is something that i actually
havent listened to in a long time. I might just have to
revisit that


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:11 [#01486214]
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What are your Prime Directives?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:12 [#01486218]
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"I view Drukqs as "fucking great"."

if there was a word that meant more or greater than "fucking
great" , it would be used for drukQs.... :D

i really enjoy A2 so far ... the melodies are right there,
especially bwoon dub's!

A1 is a lot of acid that I was never into (never got into
the UI stuff either) but one day in the car jamming to it I
was finally able to wrap my head around and get into it a
bit :)

still a few tracks I don't fully comply with, but that is to
be expected.

being the "lord of analogue" i think is kinda something ...
well, if he wanted to prove he is the lord of analogue, then
technically would you assume that he would be doing the most
insane, cut up, drill and bass ... since it would be so
terribly difficult to do such music on analogue equipment?

well ... then we would have more and more albums like
analord 10, which certainly wouldnt be a bad thing ( :p )
but i like and hope that he continues the analord releases
with a broad, full range spectrum of analogue music.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:12 [#01486219]
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Just out of curiosity, do you think that anything i said was
something that crossed your mind. Or do you completely
disagree with the statement.

I dont feel these tracks will get as much play overall as
other tracks of his.

Just to clairify I am not saying that it sucks but it feels
like a half assed attempt at music. I never really have said
that about anyones music before. I am usually very open and
accepting about music but when i heard this i remember
thinking "come on, you can do better!"


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:13 [#01486220]
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I like pissed up in se1 a lot


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:13 [#01486222]
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I am so fucking lost right now. I should read this thing
through again to refresh my memory but it seems like an
argument over nothing because people have different
opinions.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:18 [#01486229]
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Yeah Drukqs really has was one of those notches on the bar.
It is a reminder of why i am a fan of his music. I mean just
looking at Avril 14th..... i stalled here trying to sum it
up in words. That track was really great.

Perhaps when it is all said and done and everything is out
there i will have an overall view of this. Kind of like
stepping back and really appreciating a landscape or
something.

I guess none of this is complete until all 10 are out then i
will have the "big picture" to view. My mind might be swayed
the other direction but at this time I am mildly
disappointed with 1&2.



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:19 [#01486231]
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Oh no! I am not meaning to argue!

I would consider this a gentlemans debate. I understand that
alot of people will disagree with me on all of this. I like
to view people's opinions.

:)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-03 09:19 [#01486232]
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i can clearly see what you mean, eventhough i really like
both anal 1&2. personally i find it better to most of the
other electronic music in that field, but i too, was
expecting something better from him - now if he would have
saved that analord 10 for the end that would probably make
me feel different about it, but since that analord 10 blew
my mind away i got (too) high expectations for the other in
series..there are still 7 records to come so im still hoping
to hear something a bit more alike anal 10 and drukqs :)


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:19 [#01486233]
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It wasn't your arguing. You were defending a previous
statement.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:20 [#01486235]
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This is no arguement, there is no right or wrong.

it's just certainly fun to discuss!!!


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:25 [#01486239]
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Yeah indeed! Although i am quite happy about 10. Perhaps it
should have been saved for last. That is probably where my
ideals came from.

If they were around that style, building on that and working
with other elements then i would forsee 1 & 2 being better.
All a matter of taste.

As a matter of fact i am popping this in right now to
further analyze.
-----------------

Elusive: I agree. When it comes to music and various other
things i really like to hear peoples opinions. It kind of
gives better insight.

-----------------

Sam: I still say "the memory dog" is better.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:25 [#01486240]
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No, i certainly agree with your statements and it's just a
matter of high expectations vs whether or not the music
"clicks" with the listener and they can relate; thus
building emotions onto a track and compiling an opinion.

I just don't think (not you, but many other people) don't
realize that A10 was released by aphex twin, and A1/A2
released by AFX. These are different styles.

Personally, I'm really digging the almost minimalistic
tracks like laricheard and bwoon dub. Not too much
happening, not a shitload of changing beats and ups-n-downs,
but just something I can nod my head to. Certainly many
sounds I haven't heard before that are really getting me
excited.

I certainly see the point with high expectations and just
try to subdue it myself; doesn't always work tho.

you are right, any release by richard is going to be a huge
reaction, which only makes me wonder how many other aliases
he's released under to prevent this excitement.

but, i have forced myself to realize and somewhat,
understand that there is no new ground to break ... that
with each release I must not expect some sort of truely
insane -never-before-heard- styles and the likes. Many
people have caught up to him, especially with computers and
technology, but at least one thing i can count on with his
releases is those bloody melodies that get me lost and lose
all concept of time. :)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:26 [#01486241]
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Well, if this style spectrum continues, then at least there
will be (hopefully) something for everyone (sic).


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:33 [#01486244]
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Damnit, this thread turned into an analord thread :p


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:39 [#01486248]
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That is what i was thinking. It was going to be different
depending on the release. Perhaps 10 was first to show us
what he is building up to and as the releases go by they
just build up to it.

Almost as if 1 & 2 are a statement like "This is the worst i
can do" and looking at it like that it is still fairly
good.

--

As with the whole technology and computers and music making.
i completely agree. It is easier to make music but trying
to achieve something that would be his caliber is certainly
a difficult thing.

Just making something that would make people want to listen
to more than once and be original is tough.

--

2:10 - 2:16 in "stepping Filter" is badass.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:41 [#01486250]
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heh,

i'm still crossing my fingers that each analord release
represents a time or part in his career,

thus 1 and 2 being early AFX styles, acid, into melody,
and his latest would be DrukQs, thus, analord 10 (possibly
the last series) would correspond to the latest in his
career.

you know what that would mean right?

A WHOLE SHITLOAD OF JUICY SHIT IN THE MIDDLE!

mmm mmm


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:54 [#01486262]
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Yeah that is what i was thinking. Then again 3-7 are most
likely going to be noise structures!

:p


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-03 09:56 [#01486264]
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i hope for as much variety for 3-7 as posible :)
even noise would fit in nicely.


 

offline aquagak from Berlin (Germany) on 2005-02-03 10:14 [#01486283]
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the titles of 3 and 4 seem to articulate more acid

Analord 03
a1 boxing day
a2 midievil rave 1
b1 klopjob
b2 midievil rave 2

Analord 04
a1 crying in your face
a2 home made polysynth
b1 halibut acid
b2 breath march



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 11:15 [#01486342]
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can't complain :)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-03 11:18 [#01486348]
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ACIEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!


 


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