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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-02 23:15 [#01485884]
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what is the one thing electronic music has taught you
... the one thing ... and now, you are throwing it right back in its own face ... you are expecting too much and as a result ... will uncalibrate your very existance.
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boobah
from pants on 2005-02-02 23:17 [#01485886]
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elusive from Detroit
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2005-02-02 23:17 [#01485887]
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Itss taught me that you dont need LIVE INSTRUMENTS to make killer music.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-02-02 23:19 [#01485889]
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be more clear.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-02-02 23:34 [#01485893]
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boobah from pants on
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-02-02 23:35 [#01485894]
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in the belly of the beast
all your money
aaaaaaayaaayaaah
detroit, detroit, detroit detroit detroit
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2005-02-02 23:46 [#01485896]
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Electron music taught me to make booty-shakin' beatz, or particle-shakin' for that matter.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 02:01 [#01485926]
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Electronic music has taught me this:
""
^ That's right.
Why is it wrong for people to compare music with other music of the same type and have an opinion?
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mort
from Start As You Mean To Go On on 2005-02-03 02:14 [#01485931]
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Sekito Kisen Zen Master, regarded as smart said: "The basic tone of life remains the same, and in it there are some happy melodies and some sad melodies"
for me doesn't matter electronic or not....music is music
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Lord Of Gays
on 2005-02-03 03:09 [#01485950]
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Dear Elusive,
I'm sure we all understand that you have a problem with language, and making topics like 'FENX FNUK FFIIVEE BIATCH!!!1' is your equivalent of saying 'i like this tune', but this is not how we should continue! You see, as soon as people realise that analord is a load of horseshit, especially parts 1 and 2, they can continue with their daily lifes.
You seem to be stuck in a loop of fanboyism, which forces you to create these kind of threads. Please, go fuck yourself.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-02-03 03:13 [#01485952]
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shut the fuck up n00b. elusive speaks the truth!
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Lord Of Gays
on 2005-02-03 03:15 [#01485954]
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Anyone using words like 'uncalibrate' deserves to have their kneecaps replaced by eggs
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 03:35 [#01485965]
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I honestly enjoyed all three releases so far.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-03 03:48 [#01485973]
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i liked all 3 analords as well..but the thing with electronic music in general these days is that most of it sounds exactly the same..take merck label for example - their samplers sound like they were all made by the same guy and that's just boring.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 06:58 [#01486058]
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tolstoyed, then maybe you should take control of the drum machine!!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-02-03 06:59 [#01486060]
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Your punctuation sucks.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-02-03 07:03 [#01486069]
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what is the one thing for christ's sake? i can't stand the suspense!!
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2005-02-03 08:28 [#01486154]
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he's holding it in 'til the finished version of xltronic.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 08:31 [#01486157]
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The whole kneecap - eggs thing was an lol oppurtunity
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-02-03 08:34 [#01486159]
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my very existance was uncalibrated just last night.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 08:37 [#01486164]
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When it comes to something you like (lets say music) there is no possible way for one person to expect too much.
In this case i will assume you are refering to Analord. Well i feel that Richard has set the bar for quality quite high over the course of his carrear. Analord 1 & 2 do not meet those standards.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 08:44 [#01486169]
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No, not speaking of analord?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-03 08:46 [#01486172]
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im not really concerned with it..there are still many nice electronica albums but what does it for me is plenty of awesome rock oriented music..
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 08:47 [#01486175]
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but since you bring up "meeting standards"
what if these tracks really were 10years old, or 12 ... 15? and he's just rehashing some of them.
what makes it any different that you would call it a classic if it was released on one of the ABs, versus today's release which is "supposed to be new material"
... so if he rereleased an old masterpeice he had sitting away, you would then assume it was made today and say it doesn't meet some sort of "richard d. james standards"
i have got to get a complete listing of the RDJ standards faxed to me pronto!
maybe the dazzle of drukqs has warped our minds for the future
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-03 08:51 [#01486184]
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what panda might have meant is, that rdj set high standards with every new release so far, and that is why he expected something more from him with than analord 1&2.
personally i don't have a problem with it because i like all 3 analords for now, but it's very obvious that anal 10 is something completly different to anal 1&2, but this is what i always wanted - as much of his unreleased stuff as possible :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-02-03 08:53 [#01486185]
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What is your first language?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:03 [#01486195]
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tolstoyed got it right on the dot. Going through all of his releases he was always doing something to bring something awesome to the table.
I was always into his releases. Even smojphace. I liked it because in my mind he reached out and attempted to do something in the noise catagory. Even though it is a small genre it has a pretty dedicated fanbase. I liked the fact that he did that.
I view Drukqs as "fucking great". I always got into his work which is why i am here.
Analord 10 to me was great because i was viewing this as all the other situations.
When 1 & 2 appeared i listened to them and it didnt grip me. To me i found that it (for his standards) is subpar. As i have previously mentioned there are other artists on this board that (IMO) could do better.
I know that might sound crazy but i find myself listening to "the memory dog" often and i really like the goon's work. With so much out there i find that this really doesnt fit the bill when looking at his talent as a whole overall.
when i hear "analord" I think lord of analouge. In this case i think that is a pretty bold statement that (at least with 1 & 2) he doesnt live up to. I am sure there is already plenty of material like this that is out there and quite better.
Now i will admit that we still have 3-9 to see where this series goes and i am quite interested in hearing it.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:04 [#01486197]
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i just hope the series continues and maybe we see a little polygon or ICBYD style up in there
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:09 [#01486209]
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That would be more than great. ICBYD doesnt contain anything that i dont like. Polygon is something that i actually havent listened to in a long time. I might just have to revisit that
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:11 [#01486214]
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What are your Prime Directives?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:12 [#01486218]
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"I view Drukqs as "fucking great"."
if there was a word that meant more or greater than "fucking great" , it would be used for drukQs.... :D
i really enjoy A2 so far ... the melodies are right there, especially bwoon dub's!
A1 is a lot of acid that I was never into (never got into the UI stuff either) but one day in the car jamming to it I was finally able to wrap my head around and get into it a bit :)
still a few tracks I don't fully comply with, but that is to be expected.
being the "lord of analogue" i think is kinda something ... well, if he wanted to prove he is the lord of analogue, then technically would you assume that he would be doing the most insane, cut up, drill and bass ... since it would be so terribly difficult to do such music on analogue equipment?
well ... then we would have more and more albums like analord 10, which certainly wouldnt be a bad thing ( :p ) but i like and hope that he continues the analord releases with a broad, full range spectrum of analogue music.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:12 [#01486219]
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Just out of curiosity, do you think that anything i said was something that crossed your mind. Or do you completely disagree with the statement.
I dont feel these tracks will get as much play overall as other tracks of his.
Just to clairify I am not saying that it sucks but it feels like a half assed attempt at music. I never really have said that about anyones music before. I am usually very open and accepting about music but when i heard this i remember thinking "come on, you can do better!"
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:13 [#01486220]
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I like pissed up in se1 a lot
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:13 [#01486222]
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I am so fucking lost right now. I should read this thing through again to refresh my memory but it seems like an argument over nothing because people have different opinions.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:18 [#01486229]
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Yeah Drukqs really has was one of those notches on the bar. It is a reminder of why i am a fan of his music. I mean just looking at Avril 14th..... i stalled here trying to sum it up in words. That track was really great.
Perhaps when it is all said and done and everything is out there i will have an overall view of this. Kind of like stepping back and really appreciating a landscape or something.
I guess none of this is complete until all 10 are out then i will have the "big picture" to view. My mind might be swayed the other direction but at this time I am mildly disappointed with 1&2.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:19 [#01486231]
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Oh no! I am not meaning to argue!
I would consider this a gentlemans debate. I understand that alot of people will disagree with me on all of this. I like to view people's opinions.
:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-03 09:19 [#01486232]
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i can clearly see what you mean, eventhough i really like both anal 1&2. personally i find it better to most of the other electronic music in that field, but i too, was expecting something better from him - now if he would have saved that analord 10 for the end that would probably make me feel different about it, but since that analord 10 blew my mind away i got (too) high expectations for the other in series..there are still 7 records to come so im still hoping to hear something a bit more alike anal 10 and drukqs :)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-03 09:19 [#01486233]
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It wasn't your arguing. You were defending a previous statement.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:20 [#01486235]
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This is no arguement, there is no right or wrong.
it's just certainly fun to discuss!!!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:25 [#01486239]
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Yeah indeed! Although i am quite happy about 10. Perhaps it should have been saved for last. That is probably where my ideals came from.
If they were around that style, building on that and working with other elements then i would forsee 1 & 2 being better. All a matter of taste.
As a matter of fact i am popping this in right now to further analyze.
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Elusive: I agree. When it comes to music and various other things i really like to hear peoples opinions. It kind of gives better insight.
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Sam: I still say "the memory dog" is better.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:25 [#01486240]
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No, i certainly agree with your statements and it's just a matter of high expectations vs whether or not the music "clicks" with the listener and they can relate; thus building emotions onto a track and compiling an opinion.
I just don't think (not you, but many other people) don't realize that A10 was released by aphex twin, and A1/A2 released by AFX. These are different styles.
Personally, I'm really digging the almost minimalistic tracks like laricheard and bwoon dub. Not too much happening, not a shitload of changing beats and ups-n-downs, but just something I can nod my head to. Certainly many sounds I haven't heard before that are really getting me excited.
I certainly see the point with high expectations and just try to subdue it myself; doesn't always work tho.
you are right, any release by richard is going to be a huge reaction, which only makes me wonder how many other aliases he's released under to prevent this excitement.
but, i have forced myself to realize and somewhat, understand that there is no new ground to break ... that with each release I must not expect some sort of truely insane -never-before-heard- styles and the likes. Many people have caught up to him, especially with computers and technology, but at least one thing i can count on with his releases is those bloody melodies that get me lost and lose all concept of time. :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:26 [#01486241]
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Well, if this style spectrum continues, then at least there will be (hopefully) something for everyone (sic).
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:33 [#01486244]
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Damnit, this thread turned into an analord thread :p
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:39 [#01486248]
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That is what i was thinking. It was going to be different depending on the release. Perhaps 10 was first to show us what he is building up to and as the releases go by they just build up to it.
Almost as if 1 & 2 are a statement like "This is the worst i can do" and looking at it like that it is still fairly good.
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As with the whole technology and computers and music making. i completely agree. It is easier to make music but trying to achieve something that would be his caliber is certainly a difficult thing.
Just making something that would make people want to listen to more than once and be original is tough.
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2:10 - 2:16 in "stepping Filter" is badass.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 09:41 [#01486250]
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heh,
i'm still crossing my fingers that each analord release represents a time or part in his career,
thus 1 and 2 being early AFX styles, acid, into melody, and his latest would be DrukQs, thus, analord 10 (possibly the last series) would correspond to the latest in his career.
you know what that would mean right?
A WHOLE SHITLOAD OF JUICY SHIT IN THE MIDDLE!
mmm mmm
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-03 09:54 [#01486262]
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Yeah that is what i was thinking. Then again 3-7 are most likely going to be noise structures!
:p
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-03 09:56 [#01486264]
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i hope for as much variety for 3-7 as posible :) even noise would fit in nicely.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2005-02-03 10:14 [#01486283]
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the titles of 3 and 4 seem to articulate more acid
Analord 03 a1 boxing day a2 midievil rave 1 b1 klopjob b2 midievil rave 2
Analord 04 a1 crying in your face a2 home made polysynth b1 halibut acid b2 breath march
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-03 11:15 [#01486342]
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can't complain :)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-03 11:18 [#01486348]
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ACIEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!
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