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yea. from people i know, what they said.. they said they would do it again but outside. there's this wicked park, which is a bunch huge hills over looking the city with little forests and stuff.. we're gonna walk up to the top and lay in the grass and do it. seems more comfortable than in some little room isolated. |
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yeah haha, i enjoy laughing at the people in erowids experience section, i know. i see your point, i was just being a dick, it would be very interesting to do sometimes. seems to be a lot of hassle though, and what is there to be afraid of? just sit trough it. i got really fucked up last wednesday, but just thinking 'its just temporal, itll go away, enjoy the ride while you are here' helps me. |
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Come to think of it, I never like to be inside while doing hallucinogens. Everything seems filthy/artificial. |
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but see, you can't think those things. when it happens it's soo intense you actually believe that is your new reality. you have no way of saying 'it's okay, it's just salvia' you know? which is what makes it so powerful. which is the good thing about it. hehe |
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i guess i havent been fucked up enough to post here. |
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yea, i agree. i hate having such isolating things effect my trips. it seems there's more options and eye opening experiences from being outside in nature. more organic perspectives. |
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you are silly. drugs are crazy. our minds are crazy. chems are crazy.. atoms are crazy. it's all craziness. |
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Not the craziness. When I start thinking like that, I start thinking about all the crazy people I know and I become terrified that I'm actually like them, but everybody is too polite to say it. |
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lol, i was just checkin out PiHKAL, the book by alexander shulgin on phenethylamines. good suff. DOM(STP) seems like fun. but nothing beats canabis |
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heh me too. if i ever get full access to good equipment im going to try them all. |
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lol, |
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Besides that, I think seeing the beauty of nature while tripping is a very positive experience. Though I don't know if I ever had more fun on any trip than the time I was inside playing (gamecube version) sonic the hedgehog head-to-head with my best friend(also tripping), and that was in my house so I don't want to write off in-doors completely. |
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the most horrible feeling i've ever had was when i was on an acid trip and it was somewhat towards the end and i was watching tv and that WSPA commercial with the bears came on. seeing the circus bears being tortured and abused.. it was a terrifying feeling. i almost cried. but ive also experienced good tv .. on acid.. watching the documentary of the deep sea on the discovery channel. that was intense. crazy demon looking species at the bottom of the ocean. it was nuts. |
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i too say day trippin outdoors is the best conditions for almost any trip, even though my favorite trip ever was spent inside. me and my gf ate mushrooms and spent the whole trip with laying down and rolling around on her bed. first and best mushroom trip ever. |
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I got stuck in a time loop on salvia one time, for about 15 seconds. It was very scary, because I felt like my entire life was leading up to that point, where the universe would reveal it's true nature. It is not a "fun" drug, its more of just a "hey, let's see how extreme of an experience we can have" drug. You may as well huff lysol.. |
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saliva? |
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do shrooms! you'll have a great laugh.. |
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i had an experience similar to that! actually, it was only similar in that it was a time-loop, but I was wondering if anyone else had experienced something like that.. what happened to me the one time I actually got salvia to work was this: I remember blowing the smoke from the hit out, and then all of a sudden, all I could see were my too friends laughing out of the corner of my eyes, and the only thing in the middle of my field of view was the "wall" of smoke I had just blown out, but like coming out of the ground sort of... it was like a 5 second loop of laughter and smoke that kept playing through my head for 2 or 3 minutes. I kept wondering what could be so funny when I all I could see was smoke. Then, when I came to, my friends told me it was ME who was laughing the whole time... I think that was the first time I indirectly enjoyed a drug. |
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I've had 15x and it was shit. Just dizzyness. |
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overall, salvia is a gigantic waste of time... even when you get it to work it's never really a) pleasant or b) very long lasting. |
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we're going to do drugs! we'll have a total paradigm-shift, you know! fuck the suburban banality! complacency is slow death! we'll liberate our minds from the railroad thinking of the establishment. dear sylvia, what you now take to be a spirit of bold exploration you will in retrospect recognize to be a symptom of pathological suburban boredom. you will wistfully recall how your best friend was totally going to be a poet and you were really on the edge of becoming an important film maker. you might even realize how positively boring and teenaged it was posting about it on the internet. sincerely, happy cycling |
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dude, chill... it's not a make or break experience... not everyone who does drugs ends up in a van down by the river... some people actually end up becoming poets and important filmmakers (you and i could both list off a good thousand or so if we tried)... it all depends on how you approach your experiences... |
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That's true. Like, you know of any great minds/geniuses/successful people (artistic and otherwise) of our time that have said "You know, I did acid this one time and it totally fixed everything now I'm a great person" |
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for the record, i'm not against drug qua drugs, just the utterly juvenile approach. |
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okay fair enough... but what's juvenile about what Sylvia's doing? |
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man, if you gotta ask... besides: yeah, given that the high only lasts a few minutes, it probably doesn't matter how you feel about it... enjoy! one of the more idiotic things. as if sheer temporality of an experience dictates what its long lasting effects are. the same statement you made there could apply to rape, theoretically. |
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okay, i suppose... but i think we are already working with the assumption that the experience isn't gonna send you into a tailspin... all the other people who have shared their salvia experiences seem to be doing okay... maybe if we knew nothing about it, it would be a silly mindset to enter with but... really it's nothin' much... i dunno, i'm probably taking this more seriously than you'd care for it to be taken... i guess i get sort of defensive about these things some times... |
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i'm just being a professional asshole |
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ain't no thang, friend... i'm hoping sometime soon Sylvia will come back and tell us how it all went down... |
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i'm going to write a track called "Sylvia loves Salvia," even if it turns out she hates it. |
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xltronic.com: your resource to excellent hallucinogens |
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I'm late arriving to this thread, but corrupted-girl is my hero. Salvia is the only that I really want to try, but have yet to be lucky enough to find someone who has it. I've considered planting it, apparently a friend of a friend can make a 5x extract for us. This is the same person who once got me mushrooms and syrian rue, so I could try DMT. One of the scariest drug experiences I've had (and there are a few others), but still enlightening none the less. Last I heard, he was missing though. Probably in jail. |
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*only drug |
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well, did her brain fall out or not? |
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:D |
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haha you guys are crazy. anyways, what a crazy mother fuckin' drug! HOLY SHIT! i dont know where to start.. or if i can. oh my god. it was the most intense thing i've ever experienced. it's weird.. you see all these theories of what reality is. i don't know. i heard a lot of voices too.. which was fucked. anyways.. i would highly recomend it. i mean, it's NOT pleasent.. in any way.. except for afterwards when you come off it and are soo happy you are sober again. but pleasure isn't the only thing i live for. wow. i can't wait to try it again. it's really messed up how you don't remember you did the drug.. so like you actually believe every second of the trip to be real and you think it's your new reality. it's very fucked up. |
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hmm... so, it's like being schitzophrenic for 5 or ten minutes? Awesome! :-/ |
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so, it's kinda like the mental equivalent of getting kicked in the balls by a clydesdale?.. a totally horrifying and painfull experience, but at least when it's over you can say "man, that was nearly unbearable, but i survived! YAY!" |
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I fail to comprehend the surplus value of such drugs. |
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it seems like the perfect drug for naive people who want to come across as leary-ish intellectuals and tell people there's no way they can possibly understand anything because they have hallucinated for ten minutes and it provided them the secrets of the universe. |
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no. it makes you see things differently. it makes you realise a lot of things. it's like the movie gummo. it's very raw and kinda strips away superficial crap we get fall into everyday. it's not something im gonna do all the time. it was just an experience i though was kinda eye opening. |
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ha! I've met a couple of those kinds! |
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So did anything crazy as fuck happen? Like did you freak out or anything like that? "Help! i fell into my pocket!!!" |
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seriously, i'm not trying to be a smartass even though it's impossible to not sound like it.. What is one thing it made you realize? |
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okay. href="http://www.azarius.nl/index.php?category=2&subcategor ^_^/a> |
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i don't know. it's hard to really say anything about salvia unless you've tried it. it's just so out there. it's really not like any other hallucinagenic. i try to stay straight edge for the most part. that way the odd experience is always pretty beneficial. |
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jesus, you suck. |
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you're right and there's no way i'll ever understand how great it was to realize these earth-shattering truths because i haven't done it. okay, maybe you did "learn" something. i don't know - it's possible... i still think it's sad that somebody can't figure things out on their own terms, they need to be kicked in the head and lose control of their minds before they can get a grasp on reality. you seem pretty smart to me otherwise - why don't you just put effort into actually thinking? |
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hahahahahaha @ 'why don't you just put effort into actually thinking' |
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i'm not trying to put anyone down. i'm just tring to present the point that drug culture loves intellectualizing their hobbies and you could spend your time much more constructively. |
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