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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-01-28 15:45 [#01479671]
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I find it fascinating
The extension of this experiment involves placing a wave or particle detector in front of one of the slits. If it is a wave detector the photon behaves as a wave and vice versa with a particle detector thereby proving the subjective nature of perception and the pointlessness of all discourse of mind or reality.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-01-28 16:14 [#01479713]
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OK, so it makes sense that the pattern for light waves is just like the one for water. But where does the bizarre part come in?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-28 16:17 [#01479716]
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physics 101 all over again!!! weee!
good stuff, i <3 my green laser
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-01-28 16:20 [#01479717]
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Welll you see how a single photon will form the interference pattern? That implies that it has some innate knowledge of the other slit causing the interference, which is strange enough, but when a particle detector is place in front of the slit that the photon is fired through- THE INTERFERENCE PATTERN DISAPPEARS!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-01-28 16:23 [#01479721]
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blabal n nkna ababahh abajab blah bahaba babable! ! ?!? ?
I don't understand!!!!!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-01-28 16:27 [#01479725]
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you're saying that even machines are subject to interpreting input differently? Do they have some "explanation" for it, or are they more inclined to say that Descartes was right while extending his theories to include machines?
physics 101 all over again!!! weee!
in light of that, I'd like you to read the thread called "why is elusive being badgered" or whatever that was called.. maybe it was "flamed," but anyway.. I know you know which thread it was since you posted in it. Then I'd like you to think about how certain phrasings make your words seem condescending (sp?) even though this situation doesn't necessarily imply that you should be.. that could be a "nostalgic" sentece, but dreamy eyes aren't part of text, and thus that only seems condescending.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-01-28 16:43 [#01479747]
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Are you calling me an asshole because I was condescending (sp? me either) to elusive? Does that make me the condescending(fuck google spelling) king? I love him personally, I just want to beat the republican out of him.
as to the thread at hand ( and isn't it quite cosy) .pretty good explaination
What it's saying is that 'trying' to know the nature of a particle effects its nature.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-28 16:59 [#01479758]
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I would like to know if quantum spirit manitous are responsible for my Chinese food arriving ten minutes after I order it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-01-28 17:04 [#01479760]
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that was at elusive... I don't see you being condescending, but he is...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-01-28 17:05 [#01479761]
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or.. maybe he isn't, but his words are.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-01-28 20:05 [#01479984]
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Ok so you guys have the spirit, yer just retarded....
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-01-28 20:17 [#01479995]
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It's collapse of the wave function.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-01-28 20:31 [#01480010]
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It is very interesting. I made a track about it once which i will post tomorrow.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-28 20:34 [#01480014]
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The wave function just has to take its vitamins and try harder.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-01-28 20:50 [#01480038]
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Wave Particle (Mix 2)
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-01-28 21:20 [#01480061]
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T'is impossible to predict the velocity of a particle and know it's position. Furthermore, t'is impossible to predict the position of a particle having known it's velocity. Many physicists believe that even God cannot know position and velocity of a particle.
This led physicists (I can't remember the physicist who coined the particle/wave duality) to use waves and particles interchangebly. With waves, the probability of a particle resting within the area of the distribution of the normal curve within the wavelength can only be determined. There cannot be any singularity. I belive the string theory evolves this theory even further.
I really don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but I've been on a Steven Hawking kick recently. This shit blows my mind.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-01-28 21:34 [#01480079]
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steven hawking offers some very good reads, indeed.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2005-01-28 21:48 [#01480101]
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proving the subjective nature of perception and the pointlessness of all discourse of mind or reality.
I think you are exaggerating for effect, but still: I don't think the first implies the latter. Even if all knowledge is subjective, we can still construct truths together as communities, share our subjectivity, etc.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-28 22:18 [#01480120]
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metronome is a great track
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-01-29 19:56 [#01481262]
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This experiment is beyond the explaination of quantum mechanics. It is true that you cannot know a photon's location- tis' a fundamental law, but this experiment is not determining position only wether it is acting as a wave or particle. It is the observer that determines the nature of the particle.
String theory has nothing to do with this. It is an attempt to come up with a grand unification theory to govern all physics.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-01-29 19:57 [#01481266]
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thanks
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2005-01-30 04:39 [#01481627]
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elusive should be shot
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-30 21:22 [#01482433]
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already been shot,
just not by a gun
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-30 21:22 [#01482434]
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what
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-30 21:28 [#01482436]
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apt-get install jar0en_removal_tool
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