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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 16:00 [#01468987]
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I've never seen em live.
So, can anyone give a fairly detailed description of their live sets? (if you can be arsed)....I'm really curious. How much is improvised? How dancey is it? Is it really repetitive? Do they just churn out tracks from a laptop which sound just like the originals? etc. etc.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-20 16:00 [#01468992]
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a laptop or two
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George_Kaplan
on 2005-01-20 16:01 [#01468994]
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slsk
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-20 16:02 [#01468996]
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i've heard they bore you to death.
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George_Kaplan
on 2005-01-20 16:03 [#01468998]
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they bored me to death
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 16:04 [#01469002]
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Can anyone please describe their Ae live experience?
God, i'm here to learn like everyone else. An mp3 doesn't really show you the experience terribly well.
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2005-01-20 16:05 [#01469008]
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ive heard they bore me to death
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George_Kaplan
on 2005-01-20 16:05 [#01469010]
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go then
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-01-20 16:09 [#01469024]
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apparently they bore people to death
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George_Kaplan
on 2005-01-20 16:10 [#01469028]
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you should see how many times i died today. you would have loved it.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 16:10 [#01469029]
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Heheh. How wonderous and elightening this experience has been. I will now go and buy some flowers for all of you.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-20 16:11 [#01469032]
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ae live is wicked....
i mean.... you can't just listen to some bootleg and make a decision based upon that - 'cos listening to a bootleg is NOT live.
you should be there and feel the vibes and excitement - and the smell.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-01-20 16:12 [#01469037]
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ive never seen them live but if i ever get a chance to i am going, just because i love the music so much... they could turn a blender on and put a microphone in it for all i care.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-01-20 16:13 [#01469043]
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of course. it's all about the atmosphere really
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-01-20 16:16 [#01469049]
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I bet autechre smell awesome live.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-01-20 16:16 [#01469050]
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i misse dthem at DEMF in d3troit quite a few years back; i really would wish they'd make a return ... we don't see much IDm action over here and they need to make a sandwich
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-20 16:18 [#01469051]
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you mean the air filled with cigarette smoke?
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George_Kaplan
on 2005-01-20 16:20 [#01469055]
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ooh u think ur so clever with yr geothermal heating dont u?
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2005-01-20 16:20 [#01469056]
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the smell of some dank nug in the air?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 16:26 [#01469064]
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I associate that smell with evey gig i've ever been to.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-01-20 16:28 [#01469066]
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you can do that. how else are you supposed to make a decision without seeing them?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 16:29 [#01469070]
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I bet AE live are kind of fleshy.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 16:34 [#01469081]
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do they improvise on hardware synths and samplers and drum machines and stuff?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-20 16:47 [#01469100]
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But they get more money if more people are persuaded see them live without hearing their material first.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-01-20 17:21 [#01469159]
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but then they'd just be copying off of RDJ =p
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-21 02:21 [#01469494]
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u are Immanuel Kunt.
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-01-21 02:50 [#01469520]
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Seen them live 3 times, around the time Confield was released, and each time the show has been quite similar in vibe... Basically if you're not really into the music you won't like it as there's no visual cues of any sort, just 2 guys with laptops and on the gigs I've been, no lights of any sort.. Just minimum possible lighting. Musically, pretty much what I expected. Long, slightly repetitive but enormously complex tracks that unfold slowly.. Abrupt changes in tempo etc. In general, less melody and more focus on beat structures. As there's so little to see unfortunately many people seem to get bored and either leave or start talking over the music... Absolutely wickedly good, can't wait to see them again.
And oh, first post after lurking for a couple of months so hello everyone.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 02:52 [#01469523]
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"do they improvise?"
how hard it is to improvise what they're doing??
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-21 02:54 [#01469531]
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Well I've seen people improvise drill n bass before with pads and controllers along with appelton live so it's not impossible.
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-01-21 02:58 [#01469539]
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I'd say that most of the show is probably improvisation built on some prepared structures. Definitely live sampling and manipulation. The most 'live' electronic gigs I've seen
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 02:59 [#01469541]
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im saying anyone could do it actually.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-21 02:59 [#01469542]
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oh ok heheh.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 02:59 [#01469543]
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have you seen ceephax acid crew. im pretty sure they can't compete with that.
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-01-21 03:05 [#01469551]
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Oh yes Ceephax rocks.. Good point ;)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-21 03:26 [#01469576]
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are you kidding? you have so wrong...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 03:28 [#01469578]
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playing tunes out of your laptop?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-21 03:30 [#01469579]
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eh... it's live....
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-01-21 03:31 [#01469580]
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Yes I am kidding
But seriously Ae do a lot of tweaking onstage, and I suppose some of their tools will sound slightly different every time
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 03:32 [#01469581]
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yes it is, but their music is pretty simple, i mean nothing complex about it so it's not that hard to make it sound good even when it's 'composed' live. im not sure we will ever agree on this anyway :)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-21 03:32 [#01469582]
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i've talked to sean a lot about his live-sessions and i think i have a pretty good picture of it now....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 03:34 [#01469587]
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but it's much easier to come up with something in the form autechre do, than with something ceephax does..although there's a big difference in music ofcourse..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-21 03:39 [#01469592]
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when did you start making live electronic music?
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-01-21 03:41 [#01469596]
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Phob...care to give us a general idea? Of course I don't wan't to hear names of software packages etc but more on their approach to playing live
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 03:42 [#01469598]
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i've been doing it for years...can't really see why would you ask that?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-21 03:43 [#01469599]
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oh, you!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-21 03:43 [#01469600]
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yeah, it's much easier! i've tried myself a couple of times (and note that I'm not even a musician) but althought I managed to create perfect tracks that flows perfectly with both confield and gantz graf...
ceephax was worse tho... but just give me a few more hours.
*the irony*
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-21 03:48 [#01469607]
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i had a chat with sean yesterday, but he was pretty clear on one thing; keep the live-discussion for yourself... but i listened to some of the upcoming live material and it was awesome. he spends several hours per each 30-sec produced live material.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-21 03:49 [#01469609]
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i will now laugh a little.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-21 03:51 [#01469614]
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it's all EXTREMELY calculated. sean is also a very intelligent guy and leaves nothing to faith. he's so picky... he's also hearing patterns which are way beyond for most of us. i can understand the frustration if someone is claiming it's all random and everyone can do it... just as well as i know he's thinking "i don't give a shit of his opinion".
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Sire
from the depths (Finland) on 2005-01-21 03:51 [#01469615]
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I guess I was wrong about the live aspect then?
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