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I think this is either a practical joke or a test to see how far blind completists will go to 'collect' - rather than appreciate - music. it really is an obnoxious thing to do - fuck him all the tracks (all FOUR of the tracks) are either nondescript beats that go nowhere for all of their 90 second to 2 minute duration.. or the generic richard james ambient loop track that takes up a good 2.5 minutes.. then some noise track now I know there are some people here who, despite this and despite being very obviously played, will or already have paid $75 for this .. can you HONESTLY tell me how you reconcile this with the obvious lack of effort on his part? do you honestly feel it was worth it, or that the half songs he put on here are even AVERAGE/worth listening to more than once?? |
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fake |
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there are two tracks and they are not like the ones you describe unbeliver. |
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$80 |
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whatever.. you're paying $75+ for TWO songs then.. |
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I dont think you know what you are talking about. I have them on slsk. |
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two songs and a BINDER! |
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Two very good songs. You know, i don't care, I don't really know whether or not a good record is worth paying out for more than a shit record... This record was for fans, the fans who bought it love it, I don't hear anyone who bought it sying the regret it, so shut up. |
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i regret not buying it |
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chances are if you paid 40 quid for it, you're not very likely to (truthfully) say you regret it. |
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haven't heard the tracks yet, btw, so I'm not saying it's shit. but that's pretty much the mechanics of people, I think. |
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I think its the faks you are talking about because if u like Aphex Twin then u will like the Analord release (its so aphexy as afx can be). |
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give them a go, they're far from shit. actually quite good. |
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alright I heard the real tracks .. they'e nice but I've heard it before and if you're willing to put up $80 for that then I have a bridge in brooklyn and some lower east side real estate you might be interested in |
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Yes, from the description, I'd say you have a couple of fake tracks. The real ones, whilst maybe not the mindblowing, earth shattering tracks a lot of people think, but they are good tracks and not overly repetative. You say 4 tracks, are you talking about Analord 1,2,10 or some other one no one else has heard? I think the piano in xmd5a is a bit off and that if I didn't know it was Aphex and someone posted it here as their own, I'd tell them to remove the piano. |
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:-) |
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they're also coming out on just a 12", for 5 quid, I believe? |
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"I think the piano in xmd5a is a bit off and that if I didn't know it was Aphex and someone posted it here as their own, I'd tell them to remove the piano. " doesn't that statement prove once and for all that people would buy a stinking dogshit if it had a little flag stuck in it with an AFX logo? |
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that IS kind of ridiculous, Ceri..! |
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I would! then of of course I would give it to you I ve been told you like it |
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Bill, and I love you, but to be honest, no it doesn't. |
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has anyone ever told you, your style is like a 10-year-old? is that just a language thing? |
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I disagree. I didn't buy smojphace, because it was shit. Analord 10 is good, but the piano sounds amateurish IMO. It works in places, but clashes in others. The fact that Aphex has "proven" himself in the past means I know it's meant to be like that (whatever his motivations may be) and it's not due to a lack of skill. Some people would call this one rule for some, a different one for the rest. This isn't really true. I'd have far more respect for people like Tracy Emin if they "proved" themselves first by doing great classical/traditional works or did something in an established style. Then you know they're doing something out of choice and not because they can't do it "properly". As I say, the rest of the track is good and even if the piano detracts from it, it hardly ruins it. |
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well... it doesnt depend on the language... my style is a little like a 10 year old yes which being almost 30 is like a good thing to hear I am naive I guess |
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I'd tell Aphex to remove it too, but it's a bit late now, considering it's been pressed up and shipped, eh? Burroughs: "people would buy a stinking dogshit if it had a little flag stuck in it with an AFX logo?" Picasso said, "I could draw a straight line and sign it and people would buy it." He did, they did. The point is, no one would pay for a line I drew... the reason? I've not done several masterpieces already? |
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i respect you ceri, but this argument has basically made it clear that people buy afx records as a kind of badge rather than because the tunes are consistent. |
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question: after listening to the real analord10 you dont think its good music? |
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Nah, there's more subtley to it than that- as I've already said, I didn't buy smojphace, and I won't. Doesn't that make it clear I'm not some obsessive completist? |
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heh. :) but you raise a strange point though - you didn't buy Smojphace because you thought it was shit, yet you bought Analord10 (assuming you did buy it, which I don't really know) without first hearing any of the music. I'm not saying it's silly to buy records from people based on their earlier work (although at the price of 40 quid it does become silly, I think), but then saying you didn't buy Smojphace because it sounded shit to you, isn't much of an argument. |
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I think, there's not just the musical merit, but the personality that goes with it. Picasso was a giant amongst men (despite his stature), RDJ a legend (despite being a ginger). I guess it comes down to some more basic human need or something... but in terms of Dickie's music, there is always something more musically in his releases, even his shit ones have something that brings you back, if you're a fan of course. The fact that he's a legend adds to it. But I don't think he's ever really taken the piss, or released something deliberatly shit, other than Smojphace. One must take into account record label demands and other things, the make their own decisions to as to what goes on a single or album. Bottom line, if you don't like Aphex, don't buy his records, don't listen to them. Simple. |
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ah, there you go, you didn't buy it. then the aforementioned argument does indeed make sense. :) |
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I think it could also be that people but afx records because there's a pretty good chance that it's very good music and worth buying. The degree to which you expect or hope it's good will determine how much you're prepared to spend. And £40 for one record is a lot, for a record it's not really that much. A week's fags? A weekends drinking money? Half an average prozzy? (not that I'd know) |
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I bought smojphace so I admitt I am loser completist... but I dont have many other addictions so I can handle that also weed, alcohol and sex |
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that's exactly what I dislike - all that hype surrounding him. it detracts from the music, in my case. one of the things I thought was interesting about a lot of electronic music, when I started listening to it, that the persons behind it stepped back and let the music do the work. I guess I also really dislike fanboyism. I hate it when ae-fanboys can't stop rattling on about how intricate/amazing the music/technology is, spawning all kinds of theories and bullshit like that. to me it's kind of embarrassing. the same goes for Aphex fanboys who can't stop fawning over the person behind the music or portraying him as some kind of messiah. you're completely right ofcourse, if you don't like his music, you don't buy it and/or listen to it. but this is a messageboard after all, so you'll have discussion, especially if someone chooses to be as prolific as D. James is. |
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when you step back and kinda think about it a little, it is only music. |
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just for the record. i used to love aphex twin. but there really is no 'analord' even though he clearly believes he is, and prices his records accordingly. his heyday is most definitely about 8 years behind us now, and you simply have to listen to something from SAW II or anything from the mid-nineties to make it clear to yourself that his recent material is, at best, only on a par with all his imitators. listen to the stuff and be honest with yourself. |
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I know, i know, alright, i know. I agree it's a messageboard, let's discuss, but I don't understand keep fucking carping on about RDJ "taking the piss", because I don't think he does. Some anonymous dickwad relasing another Tribal Trance 12" is taking the piss. RE Dickie the legend, I blame the fanboys, not the man himself. I think he's a legend because of the music he's created, the amount of time he's remained ahead of the game. The tidbits and trivia are just for fun but shouldn't be taken too seriously. I wish you liked the Twin more and didn't let all the waffle get between his soothing sounds and your lovely ears. |
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That's a nice bit of honesty, I think you should do that more often. |
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i bought it because i could afford it so i could rub it in to other people |
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BINDER = SHIT IDEA if he had to do it he may aswell have used cheap plastic |
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listening to universal indicator right now |
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i thought xmd5a was a very good track, i like the aphex twins stuff and thought that it was much different than anything hes ever done - but if its shit its shit regardless of the artist, i love autechre but if there next lp is shit - i wont be shelling out the 20 usd - sometimes artists make beautiful work, other times - not - rdj makes great music most of the time, and to his fans - he can release a two track 180g audiophile record with a faux leather binder for 80 usd - no one said you had to buy it. it may be a little pompous, whos to say, even aphex twin himself cannot even say, the worth of that music to his fans. |
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I don't think he's taking the piss either, neither with Analord or Smojphace. although I agree that the fanboys build him up a lot, I do certainly think he propogates the myth himself. all the silly stories he tells to the media, who do ofcourse lap it up (after which the fanboys lap it up), but he does keep telling those kind of stories. and the whole Analord hype is definately created by Rephlex and therefore most likely RDJ himself. so it would be nice to get all the waffle out of the way, but a significant part of the waffle is created by the man himself. I do have quite a few Aphex Twin records, but I hardly ever listen to them, I just don't hear what's supposed to be so great about them. I do enjoy a track now and then, though. |
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now, THAT is a good reason! |
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Spooky, so am I. I think it was the Boomkat samples that made me do it. Sometimes I really like the U.I. series. Like now. |
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hmm, i haven't received my copy and binder w/ 10 in it yet. I have heard the tracks contained on the disc though and they're great! I just checked out the samples from boomkat and i'm a little bit disappointed, i was expecting some more crazy melodic acidy tracks...but i won't totally be bummed out til i hear the entire release. hopefully the series starts out slow and builds momentum... |
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i do however hate the term analord, wtf? i guess we can thank luke vibert for that. |
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it wasn't meant for you. everyone who wanted it got their copy and there were no complains so far. except from people who are sorry they didn't buy it when they had their chance. |
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NOOOO!!!!! I didnt have money by that time |
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i don't think he could ever beat you in the obnoxious stakes. and i don't need some turd brain telling me what to think, so do us all a favour and fuck right off. |
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