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I quite fancy a go at playing "real" drums. Mainly for use in my own tracks. I've had a go on a mate's kit a few times and it's nowhere near as bad as I'd expect, being a total novice. Questions: I really don't fancy drum lessons and I reckon I know a fair bit of rhythm theory from doing drums on tracks/personal study. Am I right in thinking the drum is one of the instruments it's easiest to be self taught at? I'd be looking to do funky breakbeats and things that're hard to program on drum machines, etc. Would I need to become so proficient to do this, that it's not worth bothering? I can't really afford the space of a full size kit. Nor can I have the noise, where I live. I'll probably get some digital sort (maybe one that sends midi). Can anyone recommend any particular models? Not too pricey, maybe even one of those six pad flat things with a pair of stick and midi out? |
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I have both an acoustic kit and some trigger pads like you mentioned.... Playing the real drums landed me a letter of complaint from the council, for making too much noise, so I hardly use them now. The triggers are wikkid , its a yamaha DD55 (Available at argos would you believe) the onboard sounds are a bit rubbish but i never use them, instead i plug the midi out into my Korg ES1 and trigger some freshly chopped breaks. There are much better digital units out there but I couldnt argue with £140 compared to £2000 for Roland V-Drums |
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Yes, one of the neighbours at my parents' place got some drums and everyone used to complain. What compounded it was that he was worse than me (which is really, really bad), despite practicing every other day for 6 months :-/ I reckon I should get a small thing like the DD55, before considering getting a real style midi kit. Ta for the suggestions, anyone else? |
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What's the latency like on the DD55? I'd probably hook mine up to the ER-1 to begin with (still not got an ES-1 yet- thanks to "January poverty" ;-) |
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i'm a self-thaught drummer and i can't say it's easy :D you can of course, play some basic poom-tshi-pak-thsi very easely, but without a bit of groove or accent it's totally bland... don't know about comparing it to other instruments the hard part is having asynchronous movements, when you play the guitar you just have to desynchronise your hands/fingers (and even if you don't do it you can play good things) but on the drums you can only to dumb stuff without a bit of free moving between you 4 members :D so i dunno, easy to understand the things needed to improve, but without proper exercices or a teacher it could well take many, many years... |
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Hmmm, drumming isn't that hard if you have a good sense of rhythm. Breakbeats are really very easy to do but i hear you on the programming side, it is very difficult to make the ghost hits sound real. |
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Get a couple of lessons from a mate to learn how to do a couple of things properly. It'll pay off. I'm going to get a drum kit too at some point :D |
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Yes, I've gotten better at playing with cut up breaks and varying volume and pitch subtley, so they sound more "alive", but it's not like a drummer would mistake it for someone else drumming. |
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Theres no latency at all, The only problem I have is teaching the dd55 to trigger the correct midi notes for drums in the electribe. The mapping seems completely random, but with a bit of patience it works fine. Also the dd55 doesnt remember this when you switch it off, So be prepared to spend 5-10 minutes getting them to talk each time you power up. Alternatively, there is the roland for around £200 which looks a bit more solid imo. |
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Sorry bad |
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watching brian chippendale (lightning bolt) is just wonderful - actually it gets me feel kinda sorry for him because he quite obviously puts in everything he's got and i bet he suffers a lot when they're touring hehe..to put that much energy everynight must be just health threatening.. |
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Does the dd55 come with footpedals? I see they're optional extras on the spd-6... |
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yeah, but they arent brilliant, there's no grip on the bottom so they slide around a lot + its more of a rubber button than a rocker pedal. They will do fine until i have spare dollar to buy proper ones. |
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in case someone missed them :) |
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DIY Grip idea- Maybe buy a cheapo car mat from hypervalue (£2, tops). Cut it to shape using garden shears, trim the edges with scissors for a straightish edge. Areldite the flat bottom of the matt(rub it with coarse grade emery cloth/sand paper first to get a slighty rough texture to aid stcking)to the bottom (presumably also flat) on the pedal. So the textured grippy side of the mat, ends up facing down. |
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You should apply to host blue peter or art attack! You could be the next Neil Buchannan! :P Cheers for the idea man, i might give that a go. |
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The drum in the last track is awesome. Shame the bass (if you can call that screeching treble "bass" ;-) was so loud. |
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yeah, the sound quality of that vid is very low. there's a film about them out on dvd with a much better sound quality (i only have it on divx), which gives you a pretty much better idea. apperantly even profesional drummers find that guy pretty amazing and who can blame them :) |
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that band sounds good even with that crappy sound got an mp3 form their site and IMO it's good good crazy time signature and energy-full composition, + massive sound = totally devastating ! |
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Ha ha, me and some mates got a signed photo of Buchannan. We wrote a really crawly letter about how good art attack was and how we wanted it to come back. I dunno if he latched onto it being a pisstake, but he sent us a letter and the pic :) |
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get the john peel session :) |
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