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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-14 10:24 [#01458762]
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Will be deleted and you will face a ban. It's up to you whether it's worth it or not.
I encourage all moderators to do their jobs and keep the mb clean from this shit.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-01-14 10:26 [#01458763]
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every time you listen to music without an artists' consent, another artist drops down dead.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-01-14 10:27 [#01458764]
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Yeah! so dont do it!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2005-01-14 10:30 [#01458767]
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p2p is not hurting record sales.
sigh
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-14 10:30 [#01458768]
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ITS CALLED SOULSEEK PEOPLE. USE IT.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-01-14 10:31 [#01458770]
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jaroen ...what were you thinking man!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-01-14 10:31 [#01458771]
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so this is why you temp banned JAroen?
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-01-14 10:32 [#01458772]
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this is sad. good that we can still exchange them by email.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-14 10:33 [#01458774]
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probably not. but this site might pay a high price for providing links to illegal material. it's quite obvious?
what you're doing outside this messageboard is not of my business tho...
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Blicero
from Ann Arbor, MI (United States) on 2005-01-14 10:33 [#01458775]
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not to take issue with xlt policies AT ALL...
...but it is a shame that an mp3 recording from a limited edition vinyl release that is no longer even available for sale, and is not planned for release in any other format (yet), is considered illegal filesharing.
i completely understand and agree with xlt policies regarding this, it's the legal justification i think is partly absurd. but p2p/filesharing ethics is a much bigger discssion that probably doesn't belong here, so i will shut up now.
p.s. Phobiazero, thanks for all your help with analord info. big up.
p.p.s. as someone mentioned in another thread, it is remarkable that analord tracks were'nt leaked earlier in this day and age.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-14 10:34 [#01458779]
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oh, was he only temporarily banned? i must have clicked on the wrong link...
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-01-14 10:36 [#01458783]
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this is scary.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-14 10:42 [#01458791]
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rephlex crew, warp lords, skam people and established well-known artists are visiting this messageboard everyday.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-01-14 10:42 [#01458792]
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In fairness to this,
Do you think it was right to ban him? Links like those have been posted for years (ie. Ultravisitor, squarewindow, venus17) Both direct links and posts about who to download them from.
This was never in the rules before (that i know of) and was never a bannable offense. Isnt it harsh when you look at the past and to consider he was banned without a warning? He didnt even rip it. someone else did.
we all got warnings (through this thread) but he got a ban. I dont know.
just curious about your opinion
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k_maty
on 2005-01-14 10:44 [#01458798]
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link
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-14 10:44 [#01458799]
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my opinion is stated in this thread.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-01-14 10:46 [#01458803]
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so was he temp banned or perm banned?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-01-14 10:47 [#01458805]
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not to worry, plenty of legal links to go around!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2005-01-14 10:47 [#01458809]
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thanks for the reminder.... fixed!
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-01-14 10:47 [#01458810]
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Will this affect links to livesets, like breezeblock sessions and similar?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-01-14 10:49 [#01458815]
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I will miss him
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-01-14 10:50 [#01458817]
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hello rephlex crew, warp lords, skam people and established
well-known artists
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2005-01-14 10:52 [#01458822]
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These rules should really be linked from the site, like watmm does.
ANALORD
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (SunOS)
jA0EAgMCPs8rajdRXvNgyY83PvLrsqqD1DIQlUCNMZrHU3HHiLQw4hplh3d zYK6m
OwZ7W8hus+0OPlWTb1/PtWktTDwTi3L+OVR4GIQ15Gp7U/SelD57GuRJonM bO+de
S5z3Rizz1Enz6ff2jw1GWRr1kIOsAaiEAkqBctaeDoJLjOqRF5IWkgSqBBH EsfI9
SIVsUb5dXOsFafHCGsFmRw== =Pexr -----END PGP MESSAGE-----
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-01-14 10:52 [#01458825]
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what about the homemade dj sets that are occasionally posted? it would be a shame to see those disallowed, i've been introduced to some great unfamiliar tunes through those mixes (courtesy of vlari and gack and others)...
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-01-14 10:57 [#01458835]
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True, it would be a shame if I couldn't post links to my mixes* anymore, or click to other's mixes for that matter.
*on that note, I'll see if I can put some records together soon for ya.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-14 11:00 [#01458841]
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come on, it's pretty obvious you shouldn't link to mp3s - I sometimes link to an mp3 I uploaded, to give a taster, and it's a shame if I won't be able to do that anymore, but not unreasonable.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-01-14 11:01 [#01458842]
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do you want the mp3s while you're waiting for the flacs?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-14 11:01 [#01458845]
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by the way.. "warp lords"..?
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Blicero
from Ann Arbor, MI (United States) on 2005-01-14 11:02 [#01458849]
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don't be ridiculous people. is it that hard to see the difference between posting music that is commercially available and protected by copyright law, without the artists consent, and posting your own bedroom noodling?
if you post your own music, i think it safe to say you have the artist's consent. give phobiazero a bit more credit, he's just doing his job.
i downloaded the mp3s too, but if this was my website i'd have banned the lot of you. C.Y.A.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2005-01-14 11:04 [#01458852]
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I've got them and flacs are on the way. #nexus
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-14 11:05 [#01458855]
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Whoever mentioned it wasn't talking about homemade original music. They were talking about mix sets of other people's stuff, which people make themselves or record.
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Blicero
from Ann Arbor, MI (United States) on 2005-01-14 11:06 [#01458858]
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other people?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-14 11:07 [#01458862]
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You know... dj sets, people mixing tracks together etc...
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-14 11:08 [#01458864]
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yes like my dj set that has peeps like Bola and BOC
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-14 11:08 [#01458866]
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Yeah. Sorry if the description sounded patronising I couldn't think of how to say it :)
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Blicero
from Ann Arbor, MI (United States) on 2005-01-14 11:09 [#01458870]
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which people though?
are we talking about amateur, unsigned artists, who have consentially posted the recordings for free online (like net label artists)?
certainly breezeblocks are fine, the bbc posts them for free, so yeah.
if we're talking about ae - peel sessions, then obviously no.
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-14 11:11 [#01458876]
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Well a mix of everything. Original stuff, commercial stuff, copyrighted, uncopyrighted. Herein lies the controversy although I can't see the comparison with this and links to individual track rips.
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Blicero
from Ann Arbor, MI (United States) on 2005-01-14 11:12 [#01458879]
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oh, you mean dj sets of other people's music... right. as far as i know, that's open to serious interpretation.
the safe/conservative response is "no."
but i doubt xlt would ever get in any hot water over it, it's up to them.
however, in order to perform that music (like at a venue), the venue is required to pay for a license from BMI/ASCAP, i believe, which permits them to have bands play covers and djs play other people's music.
i'm no expert on this subject, so if i'm way off, by all means, correct me.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-01-14 11:13 [#01458882]
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i was talking about homemade custom mixes of commercially released music...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-01-14 11:15 [#01458885]
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Some forums it doesnt matter. I understand what you are saying but i am saying that we all got warnings and he got banned. Its happened before in the past and no one has done anything about it.
Now out of the blue after things like this have happened before it is a bannable thing. Without warning? I don tknow about that.
Then again its not my call. ;)
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-01-14 11:22 [#01458899]
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i appreciate the attempts to preserve the rights of those who are marketing music, but i will regret the loss of channels that provide access to unheard music. i don't use filesharing software at all, but i have no qualms about sharing music to help expose an artist, even without the artist's approval...
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-01-14 11:26 [#01458906]
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Everytime phob ban's a member, god kills a kitten
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-01-14 11:28 [#01458909]
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ULTIMATE AW's!!!!
:D
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-01-14 11:32 [#01458928]
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this isn't very G®uN†€¬S. . .
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-01-14 11:33 [#01458930]
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i'm still waiting for an answer, phobia
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-01-14 11:35 [#01458937]
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err in the other thread though
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-01-14 11:37 [#01458944]
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mong
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-01-14 11:37 [#01458945]
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you were perm banned 30 minutes ago. didn't you get the memo?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-01-14 11:39 [#01458950]
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-01-14 11:39 [#01458954]
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