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offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 14:07 [#01441670]
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Hi,
could you consider using some javascript to generate the
thread list drop-down at the bottom of the page? I'm
attaching an image of a function I wrote which does this; it
accepts as parameters the current selection, the total
threads, and the threads-per-page, which php could feed it
very easily

using this I was able to decrease page size from 152k to
28k. I tested it in my browser, that's why the window
includes the select and the function call. I'm too lazy to
escape out all the shit, that's why I snapped it.

[to all the haterz--I'm not sucking dicks, I'm posting this
because I'm using my dad's slow as shit connection and it's
fucking painful to load any page]


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 14:09 [#01441672]
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fucking shit where's my attachment


Attached picture

 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 14:11 [#01441673]
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this is really nerd


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 14:12 [#01441678]
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*waiting for the sound of stefano_azevedo's lifeless body to
hit the floor*


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-01 14:13 [#01441679]
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Yo motherfucker welcome back.

I have suggested something like that before, also offered to
sort the way the formatting is does to remove all the inline
formatting for an external css file. I hope something is
done because the way it stands now the board kills my gprs
usage.


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 14:15 [#01441681]
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ass


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 14:18 [#01441684]
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IT'S LEE!!! HEY!! Did you take your japan trip?

Well I hope by posting something it gets done. I didn't
exaggerate the change--it really is ~5x. From their
perspective it would at least save money, and a little bit
of computation since WE would generate the list, not them!

haha so you really DO use your phone I thought that was but
a jest =)

once again, nice to see you.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 14:20 [#01441686]
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Re: your avatar--am I a dumbass for begging to come back
after I didn't like it and fuggin left?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-01 14:21 [#01441687]
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Never made it in the end, girlfriend was ill and couldn't go
:(

yep, I do indeed use my phone on occassion, mostly for
checking my email on the go but if I am travelling and stuck
for something to do I look in.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 14:23 [#01441690]
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that sucks =( I hope everything is going well anyway.

I dunno if you saw it, but I actually wrote an XLT parsing
proxy once.. it put a check box next to everyone in the user
list and locally stored a user-block-list.

fuck I'm logging off, this page load is hell, I can't carry
on a conversation at all.

happy new year!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 14:26 [#01441693]
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I really have no idea.

only elusive can have anything resembling an idea of what
the sentence means.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-01 15:44 [#01441720]
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Does this site use the compression built into most browsers?
As it's mainly text that can be compressed and this site is
a shit load of text that would help.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 16:22 [#01441746]
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It isn't used I think, but I'm too lazy to check.

for those who don't know--there's something you can load on
the web server (apache2 has mod_gzip) which will compress
transmissions. The CPU hit isn't trivial compared with the
bandwidth saved, and it's fully backwards-compatible; a
browser can say 'fuck you give me plaintext'


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-01 16:28 [#01441754]
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why not something like this?

1 2 3 4 5 »


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-01 16:30 [#01441756]
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I don't even know how to check :P


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 16:30 [#01441757]
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I think that would be good too, but I think they probably
considered it and liked it; what I posted is a fully
functional replacement which gets identical behavior..

I think it's kinda cool having everything accessible the way
they have it, but adding 120k to the page is silly.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 16:31 [#01441759]
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when a browser connects to a site, before saying POST or GET
to being data transmission, it also gives some things like
referrer, browser identificiation.. it can also announce
that it uses GZIP.

you could check by seeing if xlt respects this.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-01 16:33 [#01441760]
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i 2nd that emotion.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-01 16:35 [#01441762]
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?

I shall check.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 16:38 [#01441767]
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By the way, you weren't around as much when I got
permbanned, but I've enjoyed seeing you from the sidelines
since then. Cheers and happy new year!

giginger the nice thing about mod_gzip is it's an
easy to use apache module. You just have apache load it,
maybe set a configuration directive, and it's in use! No
need to dick with code. And by the way PHP is the biggest
shitheap in the universe (I won't call it a language), so
let's not get into that.

I really wish they'd consider this javascript. I actually
stuck it in a page and tried it; works perfectly. I wrote
it in such a way to be used easily from the php. and it
really caused a >5x size reduction. Given that most images
are cached, this is a big deal!!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-01 16:41 [#01441770]
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It explains why on the PHB boards I see gzip enabled at the
bottom.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-01 16:48 [#01441775]
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*hi-5*

happy new year to you too. although, i've got to say, if
all hangovers last this long in 2005 i'm gonna be pissed
off.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 16:49 [#01441776]
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HRAHRAHRA =)


 

offline tunemx from Budapest (Hungary) on 2005-01-02 04:56 [#01442104]
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cool idea sneak, i will email you soon


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-02 05:11 [#01442112]
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YOU STOLE MY EDIA


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-02 06:08 [#01442135]
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what do they use now to do this?


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-02 07:28 [#01442162]
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this, repeated over and over again untill ~70000 is reached.
its even worse if youve set it to 20 threads/page...


Attached picture

 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-02 07:38 [#01442165]
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hard coded


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-02 07:46 [#01442168]
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wut?


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-02 08:14 [#01442184]
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its been hard coded, the drop down menu, its when you define
your data out right:

hard code:
string s0, s1, s2, s3;

s0 = "SAW II";
s1 = "i card because you do";
s2 = "rdj lp";
s3 = "drukqs";

system.out.println(s0 + s1 + s2 + s3);

vs

list l = (s0, s1, s2, s3);
iterator iter = list.iter();
while(!iter.isempty())
..system.out.println(iter.next())


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-02 08:21 [#01442190]
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the way it is now, you're having to download the HTML code
for that entire huge list. the size of that definately
makes a difference to people on slow connections.

with the new way sneakattack sugested, you would only
download three values from the xltronic servers (and that
javascript code), and your browser would dynamically fill
the list.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 08:26 [#01442192]
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just for the layman like me - the noticeable effect would be
that the page loads quicker?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-02 08:30 [#01442194]
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yeah. it should.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-02 08:32 [#01442195]
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do you have dial up?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-02 08:35 [#01442198]
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yeah. it should.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 08:36 [#01442199]
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no, DSL.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-02 08:38 [#01442202]
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woah, wierd, a double post seperated by 5 minutes.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-02 09:08 [#01442230]
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Is that l33t?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 09:14 [#01442239]
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There is less information to download however it depends how
quick your computer is when it comes to processing the
Javascript.

I like the way when I suggested it last year it was
basically ignored now it is a cool idea. Times are
changing.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-02 09:15 [#01442241]
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it wont be as noticible, but it will be faster, like sneak
says the page size will go from 152k to 28k which is a very
good optimization


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 09:15 [#01442243]
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I like how you casually inserted the information that you
had suggested this before.

nice. :)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-02 09:15 [#01442244]
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i kinda doubt it.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-02 09:16 [#01442245]
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im on broadband.. but it saves the phobzman money too..


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-02 09:18 [#01442246]
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i guess now he just needs someone to spend the time and
write the code - i couldnt do it, i havent touched code in
over a year, my skills are slipping + im not too familar
with php


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-02 09:19 [#01442248]
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its VERY easy to add - really. shouldnt take more than 30
minutes


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-01-02 09:20 [#01442249]
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do modern browsers cache javascript includes like they do
css includes?

i think they do.

if so, they could probably put all the javascript into an
include to save a little d/l size there too... but, i doubt
that'd make much of a difference in page size really, so...

OMG WHAT'S THAT!!?!?!

<-- *outtie 5k!*


 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-01-02 09:20 [#01442250]
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well if youre going to overhaul one thing to optimize it,
you should really try to make the whole system optimized
maybe it should be saved for the more stuff coming soon
people version


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 09:21 [#01442252]
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It will essentially the same code server side as you would
use client side. The only difference is that the because
the list is populated and sent from the server the file size
is vastly increased.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-02 09:22 [#01442253]
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good idea, well have quicker loading pages in octvember 2013


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 09:23 [#01442254]
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It shouldn't take more than 2 minutes.


 


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