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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-11-27 09:37 [#01407665]
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I really wanna get hold of Half-Life 2 when I have the money, but I don't wanna be purchasing a downloadable copy - I have always preferred to physically have the game, and with what I've heard about Steam lately, I don't even wanna try downloading it (especially since the only place I can get online now is at my girlfriend', and she only has 512Kbps ADSL connection)
Can you actually physically buy a boxed copy of Half-Life Silver or Gold in the UK? Or at least get it shipped here?
Would really appreciate if anyone could help
thanks everyone :)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-11-27 09:38 [#01407670]
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also, do you require a net connection just for installation, or to play the game at all?
because if you need a continual connection just to play the game, I may as well not even bother thinking about ever getting it :(
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-27 09:40 [#01407675]
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you've still gotta register through steam if you buy the retail version. there is no manual with the boxed copy. it's more expensive to buy the box. and, you get more (hl1:source, and valve's back catalog) if you buy through steam.
if i had it to do over again i'd definitely download it.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-11-27 09:41 [#01407677]
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Yes, you require the internet just for registration, and I hope they burn in hell!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-27 09:42 [#01407679]
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yeah. i think you need a connection to play it. i believe that's how steam works. not sure if you need a continual connection though.
of course, i hear there are cracks that allow you to play offline. that'll probably put the nix on playing cs though.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-11-27 09:43 [#01407680]
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you can run steam in offline mode
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-11-27 09:44 [#01407685]
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World of Warcraft owns my soul now.
This is a screenshot of my lvl 10 troll.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-11-27 09:45 [#01407687]
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i don't care about playing CounterStrike....all I wanna be able to do is play Half-Life 1 with the new engine, and play Half-Life 2
i would like the T-shirt and hat and everything too, but form what i can see you only get that with Gold.
but i thought Gold is only available as a download?
and why the hell don't you get a manual with the boxed version????!
i just saw game.net have the Collectors Edition up for preorder, but it's in a silver tin, and you only get Half-Life: Source, Half-Life 2, Counter Strike: Source, a t-shirt and the Prima Guide
i'm sure i saw pics of a guy who had a boxed copy of the Gold version though :(
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-11-27 09:46 [#01407688]
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awesome! i would die to play that though my connection is a piece of shit
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2004-11-27 09:47 [#01407690]
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this was in reply to brokephones' pic (obviously?)
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GnosiS777
from Vancouver (Antarctica) on 2004-11-27 09:59 [#01407705]
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As far as I know, u can only buy the retail "bronze package"(just HL) the gold and silver are a planned release but not as of yet(they recieve alot of complaints.) As for Steam I haven't had any problems, the download are very quick(up to a mb per second)and I don't have a much better connection than your girlfriend, Oscillik. HL2 is single player! there is no multiplayer yet, their multiplayer is Counter strike source, and as far as I know the only update for HL2 was a sound stuttering problems. You do not need the internet to play HL2.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-27 10:18 [#01407730]
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Gold version doesn't come with a T-Shirt.
You get a box with it containing all the stuff you ordered. The only thing missing is a CD copy of teh game. You can easily burn yourself one of those though.
If you can leave your connection running overnight you'll be able to download Half-Life 2 through Steam.
Collectors Edition is more or less the same but you don't get the entire back catalogue with it.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-11-27 10:31 [#01407748]
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that's the thing, i would love to get the entire back catalogue...would really like to get hold of Blue Shift
but i can't leave my computer hooked up to my girlfriend's net connection
so i guess it'll be the Collectors Edition for me then :(
thanks giginger
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-27 10:50 [#01407782]
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"blue shift" isn't part of the back-catalogue.
I have no idea why. well, it was crap anyway.
you do need to authenticate your copy once, after that you don't need to be online to play.
Steam has an inbuilt system now that compresses games and divides it into burnable chunks (for cd-r or dvd-r), so you can burn your own back-ups (my back-up of HL2 is 4 cd-rs).
there is a manual online, SUPPOSEDLY - I haven't been able to access it. you don't even need a manual, really. if you've played HL, you'll do fine in HL2.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-11-27 11:56 [#01407893]
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isn't it? that's naff :(
oh well, i guess i'll just settle for the boxed Collectors Tin
i'm gonna have to buy one of those zboard keysets (i'm assuming they're gonna make one)
either that or i'll just have to config my standard gaming keyset
thanks man :)
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xf
from Australia on 2004-11-27 20:37 [#01408293]
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oscillik: you need a internet connection on *your* computer to activate it once you've installed. you don't need it after that, though (run steam in offline mode).
additionally, hl1 in the source engine isn't as great as it sounds. "objects" such as canisters, etc in hl1 aren't actually seperate objects; they're part of the world itself, so you'll find things are actually affixed to the ground and can't move. therefore you can't knock them around, etc, like in hl2. you see very little of the physics engine displayed.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-27 21:14 [#01408320]
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yeah, I already answered the first part.. :P
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xf
from Australia on 2004-11-27 21:18 [#01408324]
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ah, true :p
are valve giving any of the hl expansions as part of the back catalogue? doesn't sound like accurate terming to me :-(
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-11-27 21:18 [#01408326]
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a lvl 10 troll, eh? does he post here?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-27 21:21 [#01408328]
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"opposing force" is part of the back catalogue.
here's my list (and I bought the silver package):
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-27 21:22 [#01408330]
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he also has lvl 10 testicles, that's for sure.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-11-28 23:50 [#01409469]
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ha! :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-11-29 13:10 [#01409975]
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you will pretty much need a constant internet connection to play halflife 2, even just the single player. the reason for this is because if steam detects an update for itself, or for half life 2, you will not be allowed to play the game until both steam and the game itself are updated. I know this for a fact becuase I was experiencing this problem a few days ago, and it happened despite the fact that I have HL2 unlocked in offline mode. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Steam is without a doubt the shittiest piece of shit fucktwat crap-sandwich disguised as a program, ever.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-29 16:03 [#01410074]
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I really have had ZERO of the problems you have been complaining about, so I guess it would seem more subjective than you think.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-29 16:08 [#01410076]
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the initial install from the box took a little over an hour on my machine... but, that was the night it was released, and the servers were getting hammered, so i guess authentication was dragging.
since then the only complaint i've had is that the friends network seems to be a turdpile, because none of my friends EVER appear online.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-29 16:16 [#01410081]
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I authenticated the content already downloaded on my computer about 15 minutes after the authentication servers were cranked up - which must've been among a hailstorm of authentication requests.
the activation took about 20 minutes. which I didn't mind, it was just after 9 o' clock in the morning here, so I could read the paper while having a nice morning-shit. :)
Friends pretty much doesn't work, no. I don't mind that much, most of my CS-playing friends are on icq anyway. but they do advertise with it like it's such a great feature, which seems pretty dumb.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-29 16:21 [#01410086]
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if i had it to do over again i would definately have downloaded it through steam pre-order stylee.
buying the boxed retail version seems really dumb in retrospect.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-29 16:23 [#01410087]
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I thought it was a pretty cool system, worked very well.
except for Valve's creditcard-paranoia, but I got that fixed.
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