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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-11-02 12:30 [#01380114]
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I remember when I first joined, it was all threads about how the board had gone downhill (hopefully that was mere coincidence). I miss those days.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-02 12:34 [#01380119]
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:D!!! What a coincidence! hahah! You are a good addition dog!
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-11-02 12:40 [#01380122]
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loads of newcomers here lately...... are you telling me how to run this board? you've been a member for a week.
btw, it seems like you ALL have forgot... multiple accounts = permanent ban consider that before you start whining on unfair bans...
there are loads of SHIT going on behind the stage... things you don't know anything about.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-11-02 12:41 [#01380125]
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they all deserved it.... just like a lot of other people in here..... insulting mods like that are just plain stupid. how the fuck can you defend something like that?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-02 12:43 [#01380126]
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I'm planning just to get drunker and drunker until this all blows over or my liver collapses.
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EggyWabbs
from United Kingdom on 2004-11-02 12:45 [#01380127]
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you idiot! thanx for not addressing anything i said and being really defensive. fuck you.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-02 12:45 [#01380128]
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"multiple accounts = permanent ban"
and why is there so many mutiple account lately??
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-02 12:46 [#01380129]
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Why are mods above reproach, may i ask? They're hardly democratically chosen. I must add that i really do appreciate the site being here and all that, i've made some fine friends here. But the atmosphere does seem a little bit orwellian at the moment.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-11-02 12:48 [#01380132]
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"democratically chosen"
yeah right....... share my monthly expenses for this site and we might start talking about "democracy".
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-11-02 12:49 [#01380136]
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cya...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-02 12:55 [#01380141]
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No, i really do understand that a lot of time and money go into the whole xltronic thing, i set up a paypal account only the other day to contribute in fact before all this business started happening. And as i say:
"i really do appreciate the site being here".
I just think that the New Strictness is not improving the board's atmosphere. And when a new moderator bans three or four people on their first day, deletes posts and thread by the bucketload and so on, there's bound to be a bit of fallout.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-11-02 12:55 [#01380142]
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I seems like you have a complicated task before you. Can you mold this board back into the shape of your original vision without destroying it? We'll see...
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nacmat
on 2004-11-02 12:57 [#01380143]
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this messageboard needs more nacmats
I think we need one nacmat for each 20 users,
put a nacmat in your life... they are so nice that your orgasms will come in cascades
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-02 12:58 [#01380144]
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cascades?
:O
:D
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-02 13:00 [#01380145]
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A veritable tsunami of nacmats.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2004-11-02 13:01 [#01380146]
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don't be so dismissive. You aren't addressing what people are really saying, which is that the mods and admins have completely lost touch with the board and its members (not all, but most).
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-02 13:04 [#01380147]
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I would like to add that i think Ophecks and Xceque do a great job. They dont appear distant and frequent the board. Plus their good taste in women helps ;P.
Pomme isnt around enough, i miss him. Teapot is rare and so is Ceri.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2004-11-02 13:05 [#01380149]
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yes, I haven't seen pomme in...seems like years
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-02 13:06 [#01380151]
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Opecks and Xceque do a grand job, yes.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-02 13:06 [#01380152]
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The FAQ lists people that dont even come here. DJ Fony and that other guy. They dont even post here.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-02 13:14 [#01380163]
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the two towers, xlt style
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-02 13:28 [#01380193]
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chapman.
he does a good job.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-02 13:31 [#01380198]
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:D!!! ahahah!
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mrgypsum
on 2004-11-02 13:49 [#01380228]
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bush v kerry (xlt ed.)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-11-02 15:03 [#01380347]
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from what I know, mr jedi only temp. banned one person... i banned three myself - who constantly insulted mr jedi.
dunno the problem?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-11-02 15:09 [#01380358]
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and yesterday was NOT a normal day. did you actually see the mess?
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-02 15:12 [#01380359]
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I temp banned one person, and cleared out a whole load of shit topics. As to the strictness, I've always been of the opinion that it always been the same rules here. There really hasnt been any change, apart from some of the members that trash the place.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-02 15:17 [#01380362]
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I think Chris is an OK guy :)
But banning people for talking shit? Well then you might as well ban the rest of this board. The rules only apply to certain situations? People talk shit all the time here. It happens but people get over it (except for tibbar, poor guy)
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-02 15:19 [#01380364]
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I think some of the 'haters' out there are perhaps under the impression that I'm the sort to just ban and close anything I like out of spite or revenge, but thats not the case. Whether or not you believe it or not thats your own personal problem. But I know what Phob expects of this place from the members, and I know what he expects of his moderators, and I'll do whatever is expected of me, regardless.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-11-02 15:22 [#01380369]
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i know this might sound new to you, virginpusher, although it's been in the FAQ for three years:
quote from the FAQ: Can you really ban me? Of course we can. If we find you annoying, destructive for the mb or behaves in a "bad" way - then we won't hesitate to ban you.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-02 15:39 [#01380383]
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Ah, i thought the jedi knight was responsible for more of the bannage. And yes, i did see the fucking shitload of nonsense threads, and yes, it wasn't even remotely funny. Mind you, i still believe that the atmosphere of, uh, "fun" has changed around here in the past couple of days.
People feel threatened, and to be honest, i'm one of them. There's been a lot of (pretty unneccessary in my opinion) post-deletion. The permissive atmosphere of xltronic is one of the main reasons i stick around. Why start deleting things? I think we're all adult enough to make our own judgements on what people say. A lot of the posts deleted yesterday were nowhere near "non-worksafe" or whatever, just a bit pissed-off.
There's still a lot of music discussion, a lot of interesting discussion, and a lot of in-joke "fun etc". I ask you seriously not to let the element of humour be a ban-worthy offence. The regulars have been here long enough to realize that stupid trolling and nonsense threads are indeed worthy of reprimand, but when it comes to deleting posts to preserve the "idea" of xltronic, something has gone awry.
I don't mean to be a knob here, the amount of time and money that goes into xltronic probably exceeds my ideas by quite a large amount, but i don't think it's a good thing when regulars here feel have cause to feel paranoid about posting even their most innocuous opinions concerning the board or other members, lest the banZ0r come into play. Don't let an "idea" of a perfect music board dictate what gets posted.
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sons of august
from the sacred cycles on 2004-11-02 15:40 [#01380385]
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what on earth...
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-02 15:45 [#01380392]
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People feel threatened, and to be honest, i'm one of them.
Phob makes the rules, abide by them and there is no problem. He's not a monster, but as you said there has been a lot of crap lately in the past few days. Put yourself in his position, it takes effort to clean up the crap, and it probably pisses him off. So from a point of view of being threatened, if you play by the rules, you've got nothing to worry about.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-02 15:48 [#01380396]
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This has always been the case. I remember the days of 'Kara'....its really quite simple, you act like a jerk and you get shown the door. No different really!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-02 15:48 [#01380397]
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hahaha, this is getting real funny :)
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-02 15:49 [#01380398]
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Funny is good :)
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sons of august
from the sacred cycles on 2004-11-02 15:50 [#01380401]
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you didn't
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-11-02 15:51 [#01380402]
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indeed :)
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-02 15:55 [#01380409]
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oh dear oh dear.... have you all been misbehaving whilst I've been away?
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-02 15:58 [#01380413]
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:O!!!!!!!! Welcome back!!!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-02 16:00 [#01380414]
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well. answer this one question and everyone promises to be good for now on.
was kara aphex twin?
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-02 16:00 [#01380415]
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:p
phew... not a good connection but I'm here!!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-02 16:00 [#01380416]
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EggyWabbs certainly did make a good point - part of the problem has been the bad moderation the last few months.
then to suddenly crack down on people sends out a very agressive and menacing message, even to the people who have done nothing wrong.
there are subtler ways to deal with this problem.
and I do agree with tolstoyed - we need moderators who are more in touch with the people who visit this board, of which xceque and Ophecks seem good examples, and you, I'm afraid, are not.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-11-02 16:01 [#01380417]
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Too bad I guess, eh? ;)
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-02 16:01 [#01380418]
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god knows. well.... he prolly doesn't either.
If he wasn't kara he was prolly some other shmo and got booted off here anyway.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-02 16:02 [#01380420]
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I'll get in touch with you. I'll touch you with the BAN STICK!!!
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-11-02 16:03 [#01380421]
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"Crap" is an awfully relative term. I don't think anyone would argue against the opinion that 100-odd threads entitled "qrter=wanker" constitute "crap", but there really has been an atmosphere of pretty nasty paranoia around Dese Here Parts lately, and i think it's at least in part due to the turbo-level of post deletion.
The implied "strictness" is making people very, very aware of the things they do and say, at a level waaaay below the, uh, "unnacceptable" or whatever. Which is pretty far from the communal spirit of the board in my opinion.
The spirit of fun is rapidly leaving xltronic, and it's making people sad and mad and bad. It sucks, basically.
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nacmat
on 2004-11-02 16:05 [#01380423]
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barça 2 milan 1
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-11-02 16:05 [#01380424]
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now, pipe down.. i'm trying to troll here.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-02 16:06 [#01380425]
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I think Qrter and Tolstoyed are good examples of people that should be nominated moderator.
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