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uzim
on 2004-11-01 06:30 [#01377961]
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after having changed (for free, thanksfully!) my amp and headphones just after i bought them because they were defective even though they were brand new, now it's the cd player which is skipping. 5 skips in a month of use now, do you find this normal? given the brand (Marantz doesn't have a bad reputation do they?!) and the price (almost € 300), i was expecting something that works fine, but i guess you just CAN'T have anything that works right.
same thing with my parents' car, by the way. and not to mention computers...
there is no sense in buying expensive stuff, it will be defective ANYWAY.
*bitter*
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-11-01 06:34 [#01377964]
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sometimes it seems like this.
just keep warranties and such in order
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-11-01 06:38 [#01377969]
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I buy cheap stuff all the time, and it all seems to work for me, and if something DOESN'T work, I can usually fix it
but like, I have a cd player that skips backwards but not forwards, and that is very annoying, not much I can do about it though..
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uzim
on 2004-11-01 06:38 [#01377970]
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yes... well i'll tell the shop about it anyway... but they only accept refunds and exchanges within 15 days, so all i could get is a repair for free / i just HOPE there is something to repair and that it's not considered "normal". : |
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-11-01 06:54 [#01378005]
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makes you think about eastern religions' stances on materialism
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uzim
on 2004-12-17 16:23 [#01429444]
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fuck. i got it "repaired", waited for one month... got it back, they said they changed defective pieces, and guess what? i got a skip. AGAIN.
i bought all the gear in early september, we're in late december and it still doesn't work right - i guess it never will. maybe i'm going to write a reclamations letter or something, anyway i'm going to the shop again, i don't care if it's useless, (there's no use in posting this, either) i'm just so fucking pissed about this.
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welt
on 2004-12-17 17:05 [#01429476]
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old 2nd hand stuff usually works better than the new stuff.
but it's an universal law. as human beings die because of old age technique wears out.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-18 03:06 [#01429728]
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epinions.com (or eopinions) has a nice collection of reviews of "techknikological" gizmos.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-12-18 23:34 [#01430400]
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I have a mint condition Skip-It, does that help anyone?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2004-12-19 03:23 [#01430453]
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without technology you wouldnt be making this point here.
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uzim
on 2004-12-19 07:05 [#01430515]
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sure. it's a love/hate relationship. : )
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yann_g
from now on 2004-12-19 07:28 [#01430521]
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sometimes it seems like this.
just keep warranties and such in order
items are designed to break down right after the warranty's expiration. what's the point of building things that last forever? you'll only sell one every 50 years.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-19 14:20 [#01430750]
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I'm sure some have used that tactic, but another would be to make reliable things and establish credibility and trust.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-19 14:23 [#01430754]
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yeah, technology is crap.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-12-19 14:26 [#01430757]
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my parents still use their sony amp my mother had 30 years ago. 30 years without buying an amp. how much $ do reliability and trust bring to the manufacturer? in a few years, people will be used to buy a stereo once a year and that will be considered normal. credibility is earned with advertisement, not quality.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-19 14:28 [#01430758]
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what about just wanting things you buy to work?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-19 14:52 [#01430771]
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Well some like swiss army knife keep their prices high because their product is known as being good quality. Maybe that's a bad example. But it must be hard to intentionally design something to break after about exactly 3 years or something. If it works ok for 3 years straight, what sort of design would suddenly make it stop working? I suspect they tend to make money by having high prices right when starting to sell it, then selling lots.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2004-12-19 15:05 [#01430779]
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as things get more complex, the number of things that can go wrong increases.
you can't keep making things smaller, faster, cheaper.. eventually you'll reach the point where physics says "NO.. sorry, things this small can not be made to work predictably for long periods of time"..
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yann_g
from now on 2004-12-19 15:35 [#01430804]
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i don't think sony's ceo buys his stereos, so i doubt that he cares whether he has to change them every 2 months. who gives a fuck about the customers? they'll buy stereos anyway. the trick is to make stuff that last just a little bit longer than the others.
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yann_g
from now on 2004-12-19 15:37 [#01430807]
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I suspect they tend to make money by having high prices right when starting to sell it, then selling lots.
no matter how many lots they sell, they want to sell more. and how can u go further? it's been like this for ages. the way to get people to buy more is to make things that don't last.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-12-20 05:58 [#01431471]
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Why stop at technology? Everything is shit.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-20 05:59 [#01431472]
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haha so true!!
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-12-20 06:01 [#01431473]
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Wow it is nice to find someone who is not telling to cheer up! I really hate that...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-20 06:04 [#01431474]
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what's there to cheer up for? you can cheer up, but things will still be shit.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-12-20 06:07 [#01431476]
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Yup, because everyone knows it's much better to always be so negative and depressed.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-12-20 06:09 [#01431479]
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kisses for me, save all your kisses for me
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2004-12-20 06:19 [#01431489]
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;***********
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2004-12-20 06:20 [#01431490]
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capitalism is just shit, really...
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-12-20 06:26 [#01431496]
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The only goal of capitalism is to kill children in order to turn them into little stacks of money.
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-12-20 06:27 [#01431497]
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people just put too much hope in technology
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-20 06:28 [#01431498]
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I have a 10+ year old Marantz CD player and it doesn't skip a thing. Either I'm really lucky or you're unlucky.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2004-12-20 06:36 [#01431509]
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10+ year stuff are less discartable than stuff made today
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uzim
on 2004-12-20 06:50 [#01431538]
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i think i'm really unlucky, because it's not only the cd player that has problems, but i had to get everything i bought back then exchanged or repaired (the cd player, the amp and the headphones)... (the headphones are somewhat worrying me too, because even if they work fine, there is a staple in this that's not meant to be there - the box looked somewhat "used" too, i hope they didn't sell me a demonstration item instead of a new one, it already happened to me with a computer)
EVERY cd player i have or had has got problems (i only had portable ones before that): the old Philips one i borrowed from my father was working perfect until the antishock system stopped working and it started skipping at random times, the new Philips one i bought makes parasite noises on some CD between tracks (and, for two cds i have, even inside the tracks), i also tried a Panasonic one but it wasn't handy at all with the remote and all that, besides it made the CDs start at any track at random and not track 1 (i brought this one back to the shop the next day i bought it and got a refund)...
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Clic
on 2004-12-20 06:51 [#01431541]
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How well do you take care of the things you buy?
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uzim
on 2004-12-20 06:57 [#01431551]
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i try to take care of them the best i can, of course... :Â |
"accidents" happen sometimes, but this gear never had any, it's fucked up from the start
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hobbes
from age on 2004-12-20 07:04 [#01431565]
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you could be very static, wich can cause problems. do you sometimes burst lightbulbs as you turn the light on? i have that at times, and a lot of tv sets and stereos have suffered from it.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-20 07:06 [#01431571]
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Damn!
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uzim
on 2004-12-20 07:07 [#01431573]
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now that you say it, yes, it happened to me several times...! ' _ '
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-20 07:56 [#01431619]
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Shocking
*sorry.
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Tussle Toss
from United States on 2018-03-02 01:41 [#02545509]
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can your comp even run wav files bro
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