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offline uzim on 2004-11-01 06:30 [#01377961]
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after having changed (for free, thanksfully!) my amp and
headphones just after i bought them because they were
defective even though they were brand new, now it's the cd
player which is skipping. 5 skips in a month of use now, do
you find this normal? given the brand (Marantz doesn't have
a bad reputation do they?!) and the price (almost € 300),
i was expecting something that works fine, but i guess you
just CAN'T have anything that works right.

same thing with my parents' car, by the way. and not to
mention computers...
there is no sense in buying expensive stuff, it will be
defective ANYWAY.

*bitter*


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-11-01 06:34 [#01377964]
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sometimes it seems like this.

just keep warranties and such in order


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-11-01 06:38 [#01377969]
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I buy cheap stuff all the time, and it all seems to work for
me, and if something DOESN'T work, I can usually fix it

but like, I have a cd player that skips backwards but not
forwards, and that is very annoying, not much I can do about
it though..



 

offline uzim on 2004-11-01 06:38 [#01377970]
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yes... well i'll tell the shop about it anyway... but they
only accept refunds and exchanges within 15 days, so all i
could get is a repair for free / i just HOPE there is
something to repair and that it's not considered "normal". :
|


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2004-11-01 06:54 [#01378005]
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makes you think about eastern religions' stances on
materialism


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-17 16:23 [#01429444]
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fuck. i got it "repaired", waited for one month... got it
back, they said they changed defective pieces, and guess
what? i got a skip. AGAIN.

i bought all the gear in early september, we're in late
december and it still doesn't work right - i guess it never
will. maybe i'm going to write a reclamations letter or
something, anyway i'm going to the shop again, i don't care
if it's useless, (there's no use in posting this, either)
i'm just so fucking pissed about this.


 

offline welt on 2004-12-17 17:05 [#01429476]
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old 2nd hand stuff usually works better than the new stuff.

but it's an universal law. as human beings die because of
old age technique wears out.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-18 03:06 [#01429728]
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epinions.com (or eopinions) has a nice collection of reviews
of "techknikological" gizmos.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-12-18 23:34 [#01430400]
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I have a mint condition Skip-It, does that help anyone?


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2004-12-19 03:23 [#01430453]
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without technology you wouldnt be making this point here.


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-19 07:05 [#01430515]
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sure. it's a love/hate relationship. : )


 

offline yann_g from now on 2004-12-19 07:28 [#01430521]
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sometimes it seems like this.

just keep warranties and such in order


items are designed to break down right after the warranty's
expiration. what's the point of building things that last
forever? you'll only sell one every 50 years.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-19 14:20 [#01430750]
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I'm sure some have used that tactic, but another would be to
make reliable things and establish credibility and trust.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-19 14:23 [#01430754]
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yeah, technology is crap.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2004-12-19 14:26 [#01430757]
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my parents still use their sony amp my mother had 30 years
ago. 30 years without buying an amp. how much $ do
reliability and trust bring to the manufacturer? in a few
years, people will be used to buy a stereo once a year and
that will be considered normal. credibility is earned with
advertisement, not quality.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2004-12-19 14:28 [#01430758]
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what about just wanting things you buy to work?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-19 14:52 [#01430771]
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Well some like swiss army knife keep their prices high
because their product is known as being good quality. Maybe
that's a bad example. But it must be hard to intentionally
design something to break after about exactly 3 years or
something. If it works ok for 3 years straight, what sort of
design would suddenly make it stop working? I suspect they
tend to make money by having high prices right when starting
to sell it, then selling lots.


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2004-12-19 15:05 [#01430779]
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as things get more complex, the number of things that can go
wrong increases.

you can't keep making things smaller, faster, cheaper..
eventually you'll reach the point where physics says "NO..
sorry, things this small can not be made to work predictably
for long periods of time"..


 

offline yann_g from now on 2004-12-19 15:35 [#01430804]
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i don't think sony's ceo buys his stereos, so i doubt that
he cares whether he has to change them every 2 months. who
gives a fuck about the customers? they'll buy stereos
anyway. the trick is to make stuff that last just a little
bit longer than the others.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2004-12-19 15:37 [#01430807]
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I suspect they tend to make money by having high prices
right when starting to sell it, then selling lots.


no matter how many lots they sell, they want to sell
more. and how can u go further? it's been like this
for ages. the way to get people to buy more is to make
things that don't last.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2004-12-20 05:58 [#01431471]
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Why stop at technology? Everything is shit.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-20 05:59 [#01431472]
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haha so true!!


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2004-12-20 06:01 [#01431473]
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Wow it is nice to find someone who is not telling to cheer
up! I really hate that...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-20 06:04 [#01431474]
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what's there to cheer up for? you can cheer up, but things
will still be shit.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-12-20 06:07 [#01431476]
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Yup, because everyone knows it's much better to always be so
negative and depressed.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-12-20 06:09 [#01431479]
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kisses for me, save all your kisses for me


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2004-12-20 06:19 [#01431489]
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;***********


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2004-12-20 06:20 [#01431490]
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capitalism is just shit, really...


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-12-20 06:26 [#01431496]
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The only goal of capitalism is to kill children in order to
turn them into little stacks of money.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2004-12-20 06:27 [#01431497]
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people just put too much hope in technology


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-20 06:28 [#01431498]
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I have a 10+ year old Marantz CD player and it doesn't skip
a thing. Either I'm really lucky or you're unlucky.


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2004-12-20 06:36 [#01431509]
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10+ year stuff are less discartable than stuff made today


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-20 06:50 [#01431538]
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i think i'm really unlucky, because it's not only the cd
player that has problems, but i had to get everything i
bought back then exchanged or repaired (the cd player, the
amp and the headphones)... (the headphones are somewhat
worrying me too, because even if they work fine, there is a
staple in this that's not meant to be there - the box looked
somewhat "used" too, i hope they didn't sell me a
demonstration item instead of a new one, it already happened
to me with a computer)

EVERY cd player i have or had has got problems (i only had
portable ones before that): the old Philips one i borrowed
from my father was working perfect until the antishock
system stopped working and it started skipping at random
times, the new Philips one i bought makes parasite noises on
some CD between tracks (and, for two cds i have, even inside
the tracks), i also tried a Panasonic one but it wasn't
handy at all with the remote and all that, besides it made
the CDs start at any track at random and not track 1 (i
brought this one back to the shop the next day i bought it
and got a refund)...


 

offline Clic on 2004-12-20 06:51 [#01431541]
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How well do you take care of the things you buy?


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-20 06:57 [#01431551]
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i try to take care of them the best i can, of course...
: |

"accidents" happen sometimes, but this gear never had any,
it's fucked up from the start


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-12-20 07:04 [#01431565]
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you could be very static, wich can cause problems.
do you sometimes burst lightbulbs as you turn the light on?
i have that at times, and a lot of tv sets and stereos have
suffered from it.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-20 07:06 [#01431571]
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Damn!


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-20 07:07 [#01431573]
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now that you say it, yes, it happened to me several
times...! ' _ '


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-20 07:56 [#01431619]
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Shocking

*sorry.


 

offline Tussle Toss from United States on 2018-03-02 01:41 [#02545509]
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can your comp even run wav files bro


 


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