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what synths do people here favour? Im sturggling to get any truely brutal synth sounds out of reaktor , all the synths seem to be too tinny and the pre sets are shite so it is pretty hard to get a good starting point.. considering a Nord lead 2 ... ? any thoughts? |
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blue ones |
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you obviously need to improve your understadning of synthesis... |
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I can make sounds in Reaktor that'll kill medium size dogs and peel the paint off walls. It can do anything. Nords are okay I guess but wouldn't consider it a step up from Reaktor. If I was going to buy hardware, and I am soon, I'd look into a Minimoog Voyager, Technosaurus Microcon II, Alesis Andromeda, Macbeth M3X, and possibly the Analogue Solutions Red Square. A good starting point for brutality is the Manymood .ens in the premium library (downloadable from NI). |
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Okay |
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I can make sounds in Reaktor that'll kill medium size dogs and peel the paint off walls. It brings me near-infinite amounts of mirth to imagine ellen feiss uttering those words. |
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Her ensembles go beep beep beep beep beep |
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okay will checkout that .ens i've had a moog for years so i am pretty familiar with lfos , filters and the like. Its just that the kalidon and similar synths have proved a bit plastiky sounding thats all , the junatik has wielded some cool results though |
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I like these the most for their sounds: Arturia: Minimoog, Moog Modular and CS80 GMedia: ImpOSCar, Oddity |
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Yeah, the Mike Daliot ensembles like Kaleidon and Carbon have a particular sound - I'm not crazy about them. You know what's another good place to start is the Soundforum R4 synth in the instruments folder - create a new ens, drop in and connect it and start hotrodding it. I added an extra saturator in the filter section, put in a sequenced cutoff macro for gating, added a mono trigger for legato playing, and built a kind of analog drift simulator to widen the oscillators. I lower the voice count to 1 or 2 and it takes up 5 to 8 percent cpu and makes monster analog tones. |
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you can actually use reaktor 4 ? what pc do you use ?? i have a 1,5 ghz one with 256 mb ram and i always get cpu overloads !! |
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I have a 2.4 gigahertz P4 and 512 megs of ram. The Carbon ens takes up 10% of my CPU. Most ensembles you can get the cpu down by cutting out the effects, reducing the number of voices, and stuff like that. Mostly I use simple ensembles I build myself or customize out of bits and pieces of other people's work - I try to get them down to 5 to 7 percent CPU. It's a completely modular system with many many parts to choose from so you can get completely fucked up and unique sounds with just a few parts and very little CPU. A thing lots of people try to do is build one megasynth that can do anything, with lots of switches and modulation matrixes and shit, and then it's a eating CPU monster. Why not build small things that do one thing really well? |
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i won reaktor 4 session i na music contest and i really would want to use it, but it's a fucking cpu how. with carbon, a simple 3 note melody on 140 BMP crashes...that's too much. and besides you are right - i have the v-station plugin which is powerful as well, and i can have 20 of these in one song without cuts... damn those native instruments motherfuckers |
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i use an early-90's casio. |
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Session is useless. You can't reroute anything or build anything. Fuck it, what a lame product. |
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or use virsynth - terra |
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i use synthedit. |
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agreed on the megasynths , too many switches just make it a chore to use , rather have synths which are actually fun to use... anyone got any views on the electronic instruments 2 pack for reaktor?? seems pretty sweet ... check out the NI webbie for it http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?electronicins2_us |
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Oh yes, I pirated that and liked it so much I bought a copy. Unfortunately some of the ens eat up a lot of CPU but it's worth it for the sounds. Metaphysical Function, what can I say. Basically anything NI puts out these days = sex candy. I'd buy more of their synths except I mostly run Reaktor standalone instead of in a host sequencer. Can't wait to see what they do with R5! |
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I think they have all that on hold untill they kill warez with all their kontakt engines... |
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What are ens? |
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its the files extension for a reaktor ensemble. |
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Ensembles - Reaktor files. An ens is one or more instruments. Instruments can be effects, synths, samplers, sequencers, mixers, etc. |
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sounds neat. can a single ens be all of those things at one? |
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most ens have effects and/or/include synths/samplers and sometimes sequencers. Mixers are almost always common, if not to route a signal from one module to another, to change the path of an audio signal through a matrix of one form or another. |
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Oh. That's totally different than how I make techno. Is there a screenshot of these whirlygigs I can look at? |
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Yes. And you can make connections between everything and create custom ports on the instruments so things modulate and trigger each other - using control signals or audio data. And of course you can dig into the instruments and modify their structures and copy and paste bits to create new insane instruments. The user library at NI has 1862 ensembles. |
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Do you have a newscool rnd thing fleet? |
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Just fool around in there for a bit, and you will get the |
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Yamaha EX 5, Minimoog Voyager, Alesis Andromeda A6 |
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great thread, +'in this junk. |
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It sounds like there are too many possibilities and I would just end up creating shit piles. I fell better working within the limits of my lesser software. |
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I have an ensemble called newscool_R3 - haven't played with it much. Is that what you're talking about? |
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nord lead |
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You know I was messing around with that G2 software demo and was extremely unimpressed. I assume Nord uses pretty much the same synthesis engine in all their stuff. |
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I know the nord lead 3 is pretty fucking hot. You can section the mod wheel into percentiles, and assign the pieces to different parameters in the matrix. It also sounds great. I used to go to my nearby retailer a couple times a week and rewrite all the shitty presets... |
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