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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:53 [#01361428]
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so i got my painting framed
finally....and boy was it worth the wait.
I fuking love this image so much.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:54 [#01361430]
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it messes with me like one of those escher pictures
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-12 20:54 [#01361432]
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shit. I really like Magritte.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:55 [#01361433]
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:)
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:55 [#01361434]
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good work definitely quality right there!
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:56 [#01361435]
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not bad, although I'm more of a Yerka fan...
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:57 [#01361436]
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false mirrors is one of my favs,
i like the one too where magritte is like
there is an image of an open window (looking outside) and he has a painting infront of most of the window
eh, i cant type it
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-12 20:57 [#01361437]
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this
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-12 21:02 [#01361442]
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i'm really into his art. i've got a great coffeetable book of magritte's work.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-10-12 21:38 [#01361453]
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neat!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 06:05 [#01361605]
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"i've got a great coffeetable book about coffeetables"
ok, kramer.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-10-13 06:21 [#01361613]
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This is not a painting
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-13 09:43 [#01361758]
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Magritte has his moments. This is not one of them.
Too often I think he just does boring visual tricks that don't actually say anything or look good.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 09:48 [#01361767]
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My favorite right after MC Esther. Dominion of Night kicks ass.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-13 10:14 [#01361787]
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I saw many Magrittes last year at an exposition at the Jeu de Paume in Paris. I'd say my favorites are href="http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/magritte/p-magritte17.htm"> and La Corde Sensible
I think people enjoy Magritte so much regardless of whether they generally like surrealism because of his skill as a painter. Even from a pure aesthetic point of view his works are wonderful.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-13 10:15 [#01361790]
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oh poo. The Empire of Light
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 10:23 [#01361802]
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YES THATS THE ONE!
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-10-13 10:25 [#01361803]
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:) It's hanging on my wall in movie poster format :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 10:34 [#01361812]
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Dannn_,
Magritte stated that his paintings AREN'T supposed to "say anything"
... :)
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-13 12:04 [#01361907]
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That's what surrealists are supposed to say. Surrealism is supposed to evoke something but the artist isn't necesserily supposed to intend it to. I'm not suggesting he couldn't make a point with his paintings because he's shit, but that painting in particular doesn't interest me because all I see is a clever technique and the overall image isn't that interesting. A lot of his work is much more impressive and I really love a few (Liberator, The Treachery Of Images ), they hold a kind of mysterious hypnotic calm, and The Lovers II really scares the shit out of me. Paintings like The Empire Of Light are great but they don't really leave me with anything. The same goes for Escher, paintings like this are popular because you don't have to do anything to enjoy it, but I find them unsatisfying.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 12:35 [#01361932]
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that's one of my favourites.
I love this one too, although the other one with the rock is even better:
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 12:39 [#01361937]
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I really wouldn't equate Escher with Magritte.
Magritte only uses tricks in a part of his paintings, while Escher's work consists only of tricks. Escher is more a good graphic designer than an artist.
I don't agree with the idea that you don't have to "work" when watching a Magritte painting. when I see something like the one above, I don't just look and think "a big rose in a room", a whole train of thought follows.
it is (overall) the simplicity of his images, the directness which evokes a lot of reaction from me. I don't like Dali (to name someone) for that reason - there's too much going on, his work is too muddled for me. Dali looks forced to me, while Magritte seems more organic.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 12:44 [#01361947]
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Maybe you do not find MC Escher’s prints intellectually challenging and that's fine. However, love his work precisely because his ideas are perfect analogies of the subjects he studied. Just look at his prints on Paradox (Boy in Print Shop) or Infinity (Angels and Devils on Sphere) and try to think of a better way of representing those ideas. If you could do better, let me know and I'll gladly buy it!
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 12:46 [#01361948]
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your image is blank.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 12:54 [#01361951]
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no it isn't.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 12:55 [#01361952]
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Care to give a little more explanation?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 13:01 [#01361956]
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the image isn't blank, it's right there.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-13 13:09 [#01361966]
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I've never been a fan of magritte. I don't like his handling of the paint for some reason... looks very dry and washed out. I guess he's one of the more interesting true surrealists on a conceptual level, but still, never did much for me. He seems a bit "hypothetical", not very visceral.
Oh yeah, and i'm a fully paid-up member of the I Fucking Hate Salvador Dali Club. Just thought i'd share that.
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on 2004-10-13 13:29 [#01361980]
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i'm a lover of surrealism and I am fond of that painting by magritte. a good choice i must say. It was wonderful when I went to the Tate and actually saw a real life magritte (man with a newspaper is the one that stands out in my memory).
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-13 13:31 [#01361983]
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I'll sign up for that club. platinum membership, please.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 13:41 [#01361997]
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im with qrter on this one.
i love the paiting i posted .... you'd be surprised how many people ive shown it to have just overlookd it.
then they go, wait, what the hell?? and then look a little deeper into it.
art is subjective, but when i first saw this (photo, online) i was just instantly drawn to it's abstract simplicity.
love at first sight
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 13:42 [#01361998]
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Oh, and how can you hate art? Jeezous, you either care for it or you don't
how do you actually arous HATRED from a piece of "art", or music for that matter
bleh
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 13:55 [#01362005]
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Perhaps hatred for the person which spills onto their art. From what I hear, Dali was a real cock.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-13 14:14 [#01362028]
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as a surrealist and a huge fan of surrealism, this thread makes me sad. but you're all entitled to your own opinions. i don't care to argue with them.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-10-13 14:16 [#01362030]
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Don't leave us in the dark. Share your thoughts friend.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-13 14:27 [#01362042]
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the work of dali and magritte has been a huge influence on me and i find their art powerful and moving on many levels. i guess the rest is up to everyone's personal taste, because we could debate all day about whether their art is good or what motivated them, etc.
and i think in general it's important to separate artists from their art. it's cool to learn about the artists, but you're missing out if you let their personal flaws take away from the great artwork they have created. i don't like the facism the futurists stood for, but their impact and legacy is undeniably important.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-13 14:41 [#01362048]
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escher is really a great visual mathematician, and, like mertens says, his works are perfect visualizations of sometimes very abstract mathematical and scientific concepts.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-13 14:43 [#01362050]
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surrealism really only works for me when its incorporated into media. dali doesn't interest me because its pure surrealism and there isn't really anything there, its just some visuals, not really technically that interesting (to my eye).
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-10-13 14:49 [#01362052]
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"its pure surrealism and there isn't really anything there, its just some visuals"
i don't know what this is supposed to mean. surrealism relates to dreams, symbolic imagery, the subconcious, etc. surrealism isn't an asthetic, it is an art movement that encompasses all mediums (painting, poetry, sculpture, etc). the fact is that there is more to it than just visuals.
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dequalsrxt
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-10-13 14:55 [#01362056]
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the term "surrealism" gets tossed around pretty freely nowadays, but it doesn't really mean what it used to. surrealism was a very specific political and aesthetic movement that happened early in this century. i wouldn't call escher a "surrealist" for example...his images are dreamlike, but just that. surrealism encompasses more than that, i think.
i would say jan svankmajer ranks pretty highly among my favorite artists though. a true surrealist. his last movie was great...little otik...anyone see it?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-10-13 15:00 [#01362066]
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i'm talking about surrealism that is simply visuals. i know what surrealism is, i'm actually an art major, i'm just not interested in it as art. i like when the ideas behind the movement are incorporated into other mediums (music, movies, etc).
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-10-13 16:33 [#01362154]
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Merrit Oppenhiem is my favorite from this period.
She was a true genius
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-10-13 18:21 [#01362274]
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I sense the samfactory. My spidey sense is tingling.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-10-13 20:06 [#01362442]
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Don't get me wrong, I don't equate Magritte with Escher. And I think Magritte has some real masterpieces. The horserider in the trees image is just one that really winds me up, I really don't care for the 'double-take' effect as a reason to like it, and the visual trickery of it doesn't seem to work on me at all. And that particular painting has nothing going for it apart from the trick. The Tombeau Lutear or whatever its called is a really good painting.
I'm a really huge Dali fan as it happens, I think the man was a total cunt but he's still fascinatingly odd.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 20:53 [#01362476]
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Respect your opinion :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-10-13 20:53 [#01362477]
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edit: i can respect YOUR opinion.
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