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offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:18 [#01322027]
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Map,

Ok.... here we go.
::deep breath::

a) there is a "huge" difference between an enclosed cabin
(such as a car) and an open atmosphere....even if you roll
down yer windows in yer car, you are still in a small,
enclosed cabin with the windows making the cabin of your car
act like a 4th order bandpass enclosure, but that's
tangent.

b) Threshold of pain is NOT 130dB for all frequencies in the
band (dependent upon the human).

Yes, you can say 140dBs is essentially a "jet engine", but
again that is in the open environment where physics play A
WEE BIT DIFFERENT ROLE.

c) "it wouldn't sound any louder"

I'm sorry? +3dB is equivilant to double the energy, but
closer in this atmosphere that +10dB is "twice as loud" to
the human ear.

Sound is pressure....145dB is way louder than 130dB, at any
freq range...but we are talking subsonic or anything below
60Hz (mid to low range bass, in this case of example of car
audio).

Ok,

No, my car isn't louder than a front row of a rock conert.

I have many waves (and back waves :) ) being concentrated
(designed) on a single point (mic placement) to maximize
energy transfer.

Now,


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-02 16:18 [#01322029]
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shut the fuck up


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:20 [#01322032]
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the space shuttle for example, can easily generate
"pressure" at a low freq. up to 180dbs....IN ATMOPSHERE.

Why do they spray water on the launch pads?

Umm, partly to drawn out low wavelengths so they don't
literally rumble apart and destroy the launch pad.

You simple cannot compare a car's cabin to outside
atmosphere.

130dB isn't really that loud in the freq range we are
talking about
.
140-145dB is certainly very loud, and 150dB burps without
hearing protection is basically PAINFUL.

But hey, I know plenty of people with vehicles that do
170+dBs, and boy .... you want to talk about a weird feeling
:)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:20 [#01322033]
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Ahh, sorry map.

:'(

Shouldn't have mad your comment then.

Or I take that back, should have made your comment into more
of a Question.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:22 [#01322034]
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as for my first sentence, which was taking WAY too wrong

" listen to loud music quite often (bass wise, upwards of

130-145+ dBs in my car).


130dBs for a beat is certainly not "over-doing it" by any
means.....not for anyone ive ever met !!!

145dbs was a max for every now and then to raelly test out
the system dynamics.

I don't drive at 140+dBs all the time, that's stupid. But
you guys already cleared that up....didn't you (that it
isstupid)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:24 [#01322036]
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and btw, while were on the topic, bass is an experience.

low bass (sub 30hz) is mindblowing.

sub 20hz is ... well, orgasmic.

Gwely Mernans, anyone?


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 16:24 [#01322037]
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umm


Attached picture

 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-09-02 16:25 [#01322040]
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"But so-called primary spontaneous pneumothorax happens
in the absence of an underlying disease, typically striking
tall, thin, male smokers."


maybe that explains those short bursts of pain i get where i
can't really inhale too deeply or it hurts like a
mother....
usually goes away after a minute or so....
it's prolly more attributed to my smoking habits than my
music (it's usually not that loud, and on headphones,
nonetheless)......

cool article


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:34 [#01322050]
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Yeah I don't smoke.

believe you-me, when it first happened to me I didnt know
what was going on.

they kept telling me it's a common procedure, happens all
the time, then they cut me open, shoved a chest tube (about
as thick as my thumb) into me a good 10-12" and i was on an
air pump for a few days.

but boy, lots of cute nurses :)


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 16:34 [#01322051]
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Zigg, i'd def keep an eye on it.

You could, i guess, have a small one and not even know it.

My 2nd was small enuff not to get a chest tube.

I stayed in the hospital on the oxygen pumps for a wihle and
thankfully it got smaler the next day (if it would have got
bigger, time for another chest tube)

fuktalk about sick lookin' :)


 

offline k_maty on 2004-09-02 17:22 [#01322098]
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shouldn't you be working?


 

offline wimp on 2004-09-02 17:52 [#01322121]
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My friend has had his lungs collapse three times. First his
left lung, then his right, then his left again, all within
the span of three years. His left lung is now held open by
connected scar tissue. He didn't listen to loud music or
smoke; he was tall and thin and grew to be taller and
thinner too quickly.

This is a true story. He grew up to be the second from the
right (the one who doesn't fit in):

Mike Stone!


 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:02 [#01322140]
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spoddy bastard elitist twat. do you enjoy alienating other
people with your bullshit? what a wanker


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:02 [#01322141]
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I would've said the bloke that's slap-bang in the middle
didn't fit in.


 

offline wimp on 2004-09-02 18:05 [#01322145]
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You can see him in this video, when he came over with
Bryan and we all played Super Mario Kart.


 

offline wimp on 2004-09-02 18:06 [#01322149]
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That's persons right in the middle is my older brother. He's
a goof but I love him.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:20 [#01322178]
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Sorry. I liked the music in the video.


 

offline wimp on 2004-09-02 18:24 [#01322187]
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Yeah, same here. It's by The Books.

The music in this better video is by Kim Hiorthoy.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:29 [#01322197]
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Who are these Thrusting Browns then?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:35 [#01322208]
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Wimp,

yeah, and once you get it the first time, you have a high
ass % of getting it again.....no doubt.

There is surgury too, where they cut you open and put this
paste (...bear with me) on your lung.

I almost went into surgury last time (2nd time in same lung
usually means gos str8 to surgury, do not pass go,
$200...etc) but thank god the hole was small and healed up
on it's own.

Fuck, I don't want surgury. Actually I don't mind stuff
like that, i just dont want the cathider (spell) tube up my
neenur hole. : (


 

offline wimp on 2004-09-02 18:36 [#01322210]
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A neglected project (as of late) that my roommate and I
created to preoccupy our (at the time) jobless student
lives.

We made wacky videos and will hopefully continue to do so
this semester:

ThrustingBrowns.com


 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:38 [#01322216]
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" "


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:39 [#01322218]
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here is a pic of my xray

that thing was LONG AS FUCK... when they pulled it out if
felt like he just stole my soul or something, it was a weird
feeling... i felt so empty inside


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:40 [#01322219]
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wimp is totally thread hijacking

>_>

<_<

^_^


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-02 18:43 [#01322227]
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And you should fucking thank him for diverting people's
attention away from your morbid self absorption.


 

offline wimp on 2004-09-02 18:44 [#01322231]
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Elusive: You caught me...

But yeah, Mike has all kinds of scars all over his chest.
The last collapse was the scariest, and they had to ram a
tube into his upper sternum. He told me how they had
anesthetised him, but he could still feel his bones cracking
and the warmth as his blood started spurting out. Does not
sound pleasant. So anything you could do to avoid said
procedures I would highly recommend (i.e. if loud music does
induce lungs to collapse, turn it down!).


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:50 [#01322242]
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Wimp, here's what happened to me, and I know exactely how he
feels.

1st time.

Hot ass blonde (at a hospital where there were tons of
interns and ladies who work there part time and go to
college there)
she was an M.D. but there was an older guy there showing her
cause apparently she never performed it b4 , wtf?

So I'm lookin the whole time, they put in one about as thick
of a pencil. slice me open a bit, find the 3rd rib down,
ahh there it is...push hard, cut me open, start feeding the
tube into my chest. Couldn't really feel is too much
because of the guage size.

Next morning, they took me off the air pump and waited some
times. More and more xrays, nope, the hole didn't heal with
the small tube, sotime to break out the big, bad boy.

Ok, so back to the ER ?

Nope, the doc says, we can do this right in the bed.

Uhh ok, cool ... So i'm looking down to watch him do it,
because that kinda stuff doesn't really bother me and im
curious

::smacks head::

so he says theres no way i can watch this, im like ... ok.

So he breaks out the anesthetics and this foot long needle.
Thing was huge. So he gives me a lil poke, sprays it
around, then pushes it in further, i feel it coming out, and
even FURTHER, pushing on my chest masaging it in....

Ok, so then he pushes it the whole fuggin way in and im
like, durrrr this is feeling kinda funny.

So then, he tells me nope I can't watch, and the nurse
forces my head to the other way...

I feel him cutting me open (prolly 2"or so) then he starts
sliding the tube in.

Oh my god what the fuck.

He had to push it (force it) past all the cartilage etc to
get to the lung. He's just pushing it in hard as fuck,
forcing it in there.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:53 [#01322244]
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So yes, tons of blood rushing out, and he sews me up with
this string like material.

So there I am, big ass fucking tube sticking out of my
chest, and i've never felt any kind of feeling like what I
just went through.

Fuck. The worst part was my whole side was covered in tape
beacuse the tube couldn't move at all so they taped me up
way too much (but of course they had to).

Doctor spent about 2 hours ripping that tape off when it
came time a few days later. That hurt more than anything
and I was sore just frm the tape for weeks.

When he pulled the tube out, I can't describe it. The
feeling of this tube being pulled out of you and feeling it
on your inside, moving around by your lung and coming out,
it's like he just stole my soul. He pulled it al the way
out (look at the xray, it's in there well over a foot 1/2)
and i just felt like i died.

just layed back and felt so empty. I don't know why it
produced that feeling but i felt so empty inside ..... I get
the feeling just tihnking about it, eh.



 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:55 [#01322249]
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i didnt read it either


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 18:55 [#01322250]
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You guys need to stop bumping my threads then.
Yer obsessed with me.


 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-09-02 18:59 [#01322261]
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no im not, im fucking bored shitless of you. in fact if you
want to impress me, never post here again.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-02 19:01 [#01322268]
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Seeya in the depression thread!


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-09-03 00:42 [#01322548]
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do you think its cool post 4 posts filled to the brim with
wankery?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-03 05:49 [#01322651]
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yer cooler, IRL...seriously.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-09-03 06:28 [#01322674]
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lol etc etc


 


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