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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-20 17:12 [#01310445]
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i probably wouldn't be bothered with this film, if it wan't directed by GUS VAN SANT!!!
check
check 2
is this actor any good? (i haven't seen any of the films he was in i think...).
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-08-20 17:21 [#01310452]
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gus van sant isn't a director that i will trust to make a good film. he directed drugstore cowboy, which i thought was very good, but he also, more recently, directed finding forrester and the remake of psycho. so i don't automatically associate him with making consistantly great movies.
as for this film, it doesn't sound like it's really about kurt cobain - it sounds like an art film inspired by kurt cobain.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-08-20 17:25 [#01310457]
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i think van saint did those movies for the money...where you have to do everything like they tell you too...i think.
i loved most of his movies i saw...i haven't read that article properly yet (im not capable atm hehe), but i hope there isn't some big studio behind it.
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optimus prime
on 2004-08-20 18:26 [#01310493]
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this is the final film in his death trilogy, the first two being gerry and elephant.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-20 19:14 [#01310535]
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gus seems a bit keen no? but then apparently jude law looks like ian curtis!
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optimus prime
on 2004-08-20 19:18 [#01310537]
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michael pitt was great in the dreamers.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-20 19:23 [#01310543]
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i have no doubt he is a good actor.... and i often like how he directs his actors. I just find they don't look that much alike. the nose and mouth i mean...
then again does the actor HAVE to look like the person he is portraying?
i would be inclined to say, not necessarily. maybe the same aura color or something though! :)
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optimus prime
on 2004-08-20 19:26 [#01310547]
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he is not playing kurt cobain. the movie is fictional in the way that elephant was, though you knew it was based on columbine.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-20 19:28 [#01310551]
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my mistake. haven't read anything on it yet. though it seems obvious now you mention it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-21 09:47 [#01783773]
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yeah, doesn't look much like cobain..he's got hair all over his face most of the time though..and yes, the film was inspired by cobain although characters are fictional.
only saw it last night and thought it was brilliant. the mood is real dark and depressing..right up my alley. the music is awesome, which is only normal since thurston moore was the adviser :)
the story is pretty much like i think it really was..sad and depressing..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-21 09:52 [#01783778]
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it looks thoroughly boring.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-21 09:53 [#01783779]
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wot? have you seen it?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 09:54 [#01783780]
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i enjoyed it i did wonder if the venus in furs love was inspired by this film hehe
its an odd film thgough almost like ambient cinema, only bit i dindt like was the boyz II men part, but the ending was very sweet
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-21 09:57 [#01783781]
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yea,gonna watch this me thinks
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-21 09:57 [#01783782]
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"but the ending was very sweet "
ok, that's disturbing to say the least..
yes, venus in furs fit in so nicely..they couldn't have found a better song for that :)
and yes, boyz to men part sucked although it had its strong meaning..
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 09:59 [#01783783]
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i did think the end was sweet the whole climbing a lladder bit i felt that was nice, i mean we all knew he died at the end but i thought thatw as a ncie way of expressing it
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-21 10:02 [#01783786]
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oh right..i thought you meant the whole suicide bit. yes, that very last part was nice i suppose :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-21 10:04 [#01783788]
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what do you mean the Boyz 2 Men part sucked?!?!
:)
anyhow i've ranted about the quality of this film elsewhere... i'm assuming this was part of the film festival Goran?
how was the other stuff?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-21 10:05 [#01783789]
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I thought this film was very odd. I didn't like the lack of dialog kurt or whatever his name was mumbling too himself. The only redeaming part of the whole movie was the ladder scene
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-21 10:06 [#01783790]
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Rent it and watch it on fast forward, you won't miss anything
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 10:06 [#01783791]
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i loved scenbe with the delay looped instruments that was so prog lol
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-21 10:08 [#01783792]
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some of it was excellent and some of it a bit less excellent. the ones on top of excellent scale were definitely; last days, hell, man push cart and broken flowers.
i missed out a few because i had other stuff to do, and i have still some to see.
and what's wrong with the quality of last days may i ask? :) just a quick short review if you will :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-21 10:09 [#01783793]
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have you seen any other sant's films?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-11-21 11:28 [#01783851]
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This movie was seriously boring.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-21 11:51 [#01783868]
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I think I have seen most of his stuff and I did expect an atmospheric movie but Last Days was a little too minimal for me.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-11-21 12:29 [#01783913]
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it's been a time since i saw it, but i remember it to be pretty boring. like 010101 said, if you fast forward you won't miss anything....
except for one thing though, that empty depressive feeling.
and that's what makes it somehow a great movie. in this sense it really brings across the feeling of depression kurt probably had (or anyone being depressive). it's a boring and empty movie, yes, but it's supposed to be that way.
so, yeah, i've got mixed feelings about this one
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-21 12:50 [#01783927]
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The most memorabal movie I have seen in ages was Atanarjuat, the fast runner if you havn't seen it and you are looking for something atmospheric and haunting in the same way Last Days attempted to be I would highly recomend it.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-11-21 12:53 [#01783928]
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i kinda liked the remake of psycho though. I mean it did exactly what it set out to do and it did it pretty well. of course it can't step to the original, but i don't think it was trying to.
but yeah, GVS is pretty hit and miss as a director.
Last Days played at the Seattle Film Festival this year. I didn't see it but i heard very mixed reviews. This is Seattle after all, many people tend to feel more personally connected to Kurt Cobain here.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-21 13:10 [#01783944]
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saw that one couple of times..i liked it quite a bit but not nearly as much as last days..
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Aktium
from cleveland (United States) on 2005-11-21 14:07 [#01784025]
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i hated it
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2005-11-21 14:32 [#01784041]
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this film played at the local indy cinema and got some pretty horrid reviews.
sorrry. i had to let it go by, so i watched history of violence instead.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2005-11-21 14:54 [#01784063]
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it was pretty crappy..
i do recommend the documentary 'Kurt and Courtney' though, music and interview with Earth
imdb link
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-21 19:29 [#01784362]
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oh no, i mean i think this film is fucking awesome.
the photography was bloody impeccable, and at times verging on orgasmic (an overstatement i know, but believe you me, my jaw was most definitely downstairs during the scene where Ricky Jay is driving up to the house with one of the friends).
the soundtrack is gorgeous, the gentle surrealism of it all is pretty amazing. to the extent really, that i don't even know if it makes sense to describe this film as minimalistic... there's some pretty nutty things going on here, aesthetically...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-22 03:25 [#01784548]
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OH!
just what i needed to hear after all the negative comments from people here :D
man, im sure glad im not alone in this!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-11-22 06:18 [#01784660]
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Yeah, the Boyz II Men scene was the best, really. I thought the ghost-thing was pretty corny but apart from that it's a very nice film I like this film.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-22 06:25 [#01784662]
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happy to hear that monsieur fabien!
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