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well there was one for UV vs Drukqs, why not autechres most current release aswell. or has this been done before. -a strange feeling it has sweeps over Gwely Mernans- |
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this is a close call for me... i'd say drukqs by a narrow margin, but if it had been confield vs drukqs, i'd have said confield. |
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draft... im not a fan of drukqs as a whole. if it were a well-pruned down 2 cd album, it might be a harder call for me. |
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1 cd album, i meant |
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i would say drukqs as a whole album, and draft as single tracks |
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Draft draft draft |
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You can do UV vs DrukQs, but I cannot confide in ANY comparision between these two albums. Simply....perpostrous! |
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the only thing you can compair an autechre album to; is another autechre album EOF! |
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so you dont accept the challenge? |
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This is really, fucking stupid How are you going to compare and versus these two incredible albums. This is stupid and you need to find something else to do. |
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imo, squarepusher is generic, and drukqs needed a way better contester than UV |
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When you start comparing these talented artists you stop learning from them okay |
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do you want the truth? i really dont care about it, i love both albums, and even i cant decide on this, i just decided to make this thread because each album started with D (isnt that so cool?!) and maybe some members will really scratch their noggin on this one, we'll see. thanks for your output |
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your welcome they will start scratching their heads indeed this is what popular modern journalism is based upon, dividing what people think good artists are from bad artists which removes the art from the artistry and gets rid of the point of the music in the first place. it turns music into a malnutritioned, competitive activity i see this in the 'freestyle laptop scene' here it is so fucking pathetic and disgusting people, tons of talented artists, get their music together and just waste it all in these stupid competitions -- their attitude, stage show, is weak, there is no expression and its all about "hey look what i can do with this dsp and twist a knob and make this intense looking face as i bob my head to these weak ass beats i also created" fuck em all. give me some tunes, i dont want to hear competition. good music is not competitive. |
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a lot of rap songs are better than draft songs. ....it just depends what f'uckin mood im in, duh. |
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i see so many fucking emo kids walk up on the stage with a powerbook they JUST bought. emphasis is on "JUST" they have no talent or musical experience they just heard somewhere that having a powerbook these days is as good as having a guitar. fuck em. i dont want to hear their bullshit however i will not entire displace the whole laptop scene. there is some good shit i have heard out of it. it is jus tthe unnatural, underground-pop seeking motherfuckers |
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things become diluted and essentially dead when they become based upon survival and competition. so fuck it. |
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sort of like women eh? get to know a chick, end up fucking her, after that there's sometimes not much to talk about now is there? youve reached the omega. you won. now what? |
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my point is ACCUMULATION versus CALCULATION the accumulation process tends to advance forward and gather data and expand mind-databases. the calculation process tends to block incoming data and re-inforce old information. |
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you can sort of end up seeming "out of the loop" when you are blocking out so much new data and strengthening and augmented all of those old, worn out values. it is very very very important to avoid competition and popularity and focus instead on attaining certain human vertexes by means of constant input analysis. |
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God I can't fucking wait to get home from this fucking hell hole, the computers here are awful. Are there currently any people online who live in the Dallas, TX area? I need a place to sleep and read for 9 hours. |
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no contest. drukqs |
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there is no need to take this so seriously really is a thread in am MB... why not doing a versus or competition between artists, albums or tracks? its funny and it causes music discussion but of course we all like both albums most of the times, and this thread doesnt make us hate one of them... its just a game, just a way of aproaching a music debate |
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im sorry, this is a horrible thread what was i thinking. you CANT compare these releases elusive was right! it gives me a headache |
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Drukqs wins. Yep, I just compared them, I did it. I do it all the time. Harry Nilsson= Autechre + Aphex Twin X 3 - Yanni. |
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noooooo!!! you cant do it, but you did it wait to see the world debacle in a few minutes |
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HOW can you compare these?? draft 7.30 is just shit compared to drukqs!! I hate autechre's recent stuff, I preferred the simpler early ambient tracks much more. And of course, I love druqks :D piano songs are amazing, I learnt three of them. And St. Michael's Mount, my fav drill'n'bass tune, no question. |
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No, you're wrong, you're a scatter-brained fool. |
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But it still is a stupid comparison. It's like asking "Which do you like better? Chairs or mirrors?" |
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HEY GUYS WHAT'S BETTER GETTING HIT BY A CAR OR GETTING HIT BY A CAR |
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Oh I see, my opinion is the wrong one! Of course, your argument is rock solid, and I am 'a scatter brained fool', naturally. I hate it because for me it crosses that fine line between music and noise. And it's not a nice noise, not a pleasant noise. So I don't want to hear it, and therefore, it can fuck off. |
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chairs |
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GETTING HIT BY A CAR |
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If you think it is noise then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. We can't both be right. So you obviously have to be wrong. |
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Ok then, so wheres the music? I'm just listening to it now, and it's mostly just near-random rhythms backed by ambient sounds. Occassionally I might hear the emergence of ACTUAL NOTES and chords but it just isn't music. It's sound- pointless, synthesised, almost random, abstract noise! Explain to me why you think it qualifies as music. |
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And now I listen to Kalpol Intro, excellent track. Why can't they go back to this style, it's brilliant! |
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It's sound- pointless, synthesised, almost random, abstract noise! Creating space, ambience, structure; that's not pointless. Synthesised? [sic] Okay, like anything Aphex Twin has done isn't. Random? No. Chaotic at times? Yes. Abstract? Yes. Noise? Try listening to a pneumatic drill for 30 minutes or something. More original, more cohesive, more technically impressive than Druqks. |
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I don't know, maybe because it's been done a million fucking times since 1993. |
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YEAH BUT CONSIDER THIS; YOU CAN GET HIT BY A CAR, OR YOU CAN GET HIT BY A CAR. WHICH ONE WOULD YOU RATHER HAPPEN? |
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its like saying picasso's work went to crap when he started doing cubism. |
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mappatazee is 100% right JLefrere, that makes you wrong, not even 1% right. think about this for awhile. |
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Well when I said synthesised, I guess I was just reiterating the pointlessness of it. What I mean is that it can be created by using endless effects and such through the computer, etc etc...Sorry, I'm always divided on electronic music with the arguments of software vs real instruments. It kind of degrades electronic music for me, especially ambient style music, when I can create similar things with a software synth. Anyway, to me it's mainly pointless because, with Aphex, or any other good elec. artist, when I listen to their music, I find that I visualise and drift off etc. But the total abstractness of something like draft makes this impossible. With no real reference to any feelings, colours, places, speed, in the real world, I just can't relate the music to anything in my imagination, and it's just meaningless. Sorry this all looks like gibberish now, it's quite hard to explain. 'Try listening to a pneumatic drill for 30 minutes or something.' Oh right, I thought I just did? Oh, sorry that was two guys with a laptop trying to be different. Original, yeah ok, but is this a good thing? Cohesive? No, the interludes don't just hold together drukqs, theyre the best part for me. Technically impressive, we can't tell, we don't know how they did it. |
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Understand something fundamental about opinions: they aren't right or wrong. |
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"when I listen to their music, I find that I visualise and drift off etc. But the total abstractness of something like draft makes this impossible." your brain is at leeeaaassst...... a few hundred years behind. |
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if their not right or wrong, then they have to be smart or stupid. |
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If you didn't like cubism, then that statement would be fine. Even if someone is good at something, what they create can still be bad, it depends on personal taste. |
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Heh, I was about to comment on his less evolved brain. But really Draft 7.30 is wayy more visual than Drukqs. Every sound is reacting to every other sound. Listen to the second half of 6ie.cr and listen to that melody. |
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Oh of course. Well to me, what I see in shit like autechre can be reflected in motion graphics work backed by similar music. Basically, abstract! It's like what I see when almost asleep when I let my mind throw up a constantly morphing image that has no relevance to anything. Why would this make me less intelligent than you? I don't see any value in listening to this music. So what? |
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personal aesthetic is coming to mean less and less to me in art. im finding i can appreciate quite a wide array of thigns if i can focus on the good in it. plus, i let the art do the driving, mostly. if you dont let ae drive, you wont like it. seriously... i dispised confield and gantz until i let them just do thier thign in my mind and stopped needing them to do somethign they had already done. i wanted lp5. i now find draft to be my preferential album of theirs. |
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my personal taste grows and grows, searching for and studying more and more complex music, at a time, i was really into incunabula, but my taste grows, it doesnt stop along the way content with itself, thats just.. retarded |
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