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poll: loveless or nevermind
 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-05 18:40 [#01296510]
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released mere months apart, both of these are hugely
influential records, and, adding to the pointlessness of
this "poll", sound nothing alike. nonetheless, which is
better?
my vote goes with loveless.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-08-05 18:42 [#01296511]
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What is loveless?


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-05 18:45 [#01296514]
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you're shitting me.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-08-05 18:49 [#01296522]
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i dont know what loveless is either


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-05 18:50 [#01296524]
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wow.


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-08-05 18:50 [#01296525]
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Nevermind. Hard to compare the quality, but Nevermind is the
soundtrack of my teens


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2004-08-05 18:51 [#01296528]
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My Bloody Valentine, I take it.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-08-05 18:54 [#01296535]
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I am not shitting you.


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-08-05 18:57 [#01296541]
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An album by My Bloody Valentine. If you're a BoC-fan, you
will be surprised when you listen to it.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-05 18:58 [#01296545]
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true enough, they were an influence on boc.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-08-05 19:00 [#01296548]
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What if I think BoC are dogshit? Should I still give it a
listen or will I hate it?


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-08-05 19:01 [#01296549]
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Give it a listen anyway. It's very good.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-08-05 19:01 [#01296550]
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oh yeah, they completely went past me
it's their damn name


 

offline optimus prime on 2004-08-05 19:13 [#01296568]
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both are very boring, but i'll go with loveless.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-08-05 19:19 [#01296579]
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nevermind kind of sucks
but loveless is pretty overrated too


 

offline KainiIndustries from over the roof floats billy on 2004-08-05 19:36 [#01296603]
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this is a no-brainer; loveless.


 

offline uzim on 2004-08-06 05:31 [#01296805]
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thethirdball > yes, try Loveless... i'm not a BoC fan at all
but i really like Loveless =)

...
it's a hard choice, really. good poll.

none of these albums is perfect, i think Nevermind has
stronger tracks than Loveless but since Loveless is more a
"flow" album than a "track-by-track" album, i'm not sure how
much sense this makes...

and Loveless does sound more original than Nevermind...

still i think i'd vote for Nevermind, but really not by far.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-06 05:37 [#01296808]
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Loveless.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-08-06 05:39 [#01296809]
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love them both...my vote would have to go to nevermind
though.


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-08-06 06:13 [#01296817]
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my vote goes for in utero


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-08-06 06:25 [#01296830]
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I know I sound like a tit but "Isn't Anything" is a much,
much better album than "Loveless", and "Bleach" is a better
album than "Nevermind". Out of all of them though it has to
be "Isn't Anything", alright?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2004-08-06 07:05 [#01296854]
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"whipped cream and other delights" is a much, much better
album. so, out of all of them, it has to be "whipped cream
and other delights."


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-08-06 08:10 [#01296918]
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in utero>loveless


 

offline steve from chicago on 2004-08-06 10:56 [#01297125]
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[i]Loveless[/i] over anything Nirvana ever did.
[i]Nevermind[/i] is tired and I'll be damned if I can listen
to it again even one more time.


 

offline steve from chicago on 2004-08-06 10:58 [#01297127]
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I have to stop coming here straight from ubb boards. Sorry
for the brackets.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-08-06 11:12 [#01297153]
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I'll go with Loveless, though I don't like it as much as
Ecstacy and Wine or Isn't Everything. I think Nirvana is
underappreciated, though. That album holds up.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2004-08-06 11:12 [#01297154]
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I like "loveless" exactly 4 trillion times better than this
"nevermind" thing.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-06 12:26 [#01297265]
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Me too. Loveless fo sho'


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-08-06 12:54 [#01297295]
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Loveless

I'd guess Nevermind was way more influential though. Depends
on your definition of influential.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-06 13:17 [#01297322]
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loveless is far better.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-08-06 13:19 [#01297323]
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nevermind hit me the same time as ten


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-06 13:20 [#01297324]
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despite the fact that they're totally different, i still
think loveless has had the more influence overall. i mean,
people have been trying to duplicate that guitar sound
forever.
nevermind is just a glossy sounding pixies tribute record.
and in utero is a steve albini produced pixies tribute
record.


 

offline zguru from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2004-08-06 13:25 [#01297333]
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i'll be surprised if anyone in the US picks loveless... not
to take anything away from the album, but nobody has heard
my bloody valentine here. (yes a few have)

the popularity of one vs the other is not even a contest.
everyone has nevermind. i'd be surprised if there is a copy
of loveless in our local record store.


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-08-06 13:27 [#01297337]
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Seefeel and MBV are a closer comparison.

Nirvanna and Pixies are also more apt in comparison.

Give me seefeel and Pixies in both instances


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-06 13:27 [#01297338]
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yeah. i'm not currently in the us, but no one there has ever
heard of mbv, but pretty much anyone who was atleast ten in
1991 has a copy of nevermind.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-06 13:27 [#01297339]
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if the pixies are in a comparison, they will win.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-08-06 13:30 [#01297342]
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Who are some bands that tried to emulate MBV? They don't
have to be current bands. I'd like to give them a listen.
(apart from M83 and the 90s shoegazer scene)


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-08-06 13:31 [#01297343]
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Check out Loop- some very good stuff


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-06 13:32 [#01297345]
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what about slowdive?


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-06 13:33 [#01297346]
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or even 'jesus and the mary chain'


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-06 13:35 [#01297349]
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actually, its just that guitar noise thats been persistant
in alot of music. and, as said before, boc has definitely
been influenced by them.
i just wish kevin shields would write something. anything.
his stuff on the lost in translation soundtrack was good,
but i want to hear more.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-08-06 13:37 [#01297352]
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I'll bet the Jesus and Mary Chain influenced MBV rather than
the other way around, even though they both got started at
around the same time.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-06 13:37 [#01297353]
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i'm pretty sure you're right.


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-08-06 13:42 [#01297362]
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Gish is actually a way better album than Nevermind and I
wore the pits off the cd trying to drown out every pumpkins
release after it.

Please dont hate me.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-08-06 13:44 [#01297364]
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actually, you just reminded me of another band that mbv
influenced. thanks.


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-08-06 13:50 [#01297372]
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I think perhaps they all owe a nod to Bauhaus.



 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-06 13:54 [#01297381]
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if your looking for the roots of this kind of music, pretty
much any band like this is influenced by the Velvet
Underground.


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-08-06 13:56 [#01297383]
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touche


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-06 13:58 [#01297388]
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bauhaus are a bit underrated though, too many people just
pass them off as a goth band.


 

offline godataloss from Cleveland (United States) on 2004-08-06 14:04 [#01297392]
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Bauhaus are awesome and actually turned me on to the Pixies.
The Pixies opend for them (as Love and Rockets)- saw them
together in 1990. Pixies absolutely blew the roof off, and
I will forever admire the Bauhaus boys for having the
courage to tour with them


 


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