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I'm getting a motherboard with chipset. What I was wondering is if anyone knoew how good the onboard firewall is? |
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Sounds toopid. Running a firewall at the level of your computer, whether on a chip or as a piece of software, is wrong. You want to block access BEFORE it gets to your system, with say a Linksys router which is cheap and effective. That way you can share system resources with other computers on the lan without worrying about sharing / not sharing them with the rest of the world. :: waits for elusive to show up and call me names :: |
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Well I don't have a router at the moment. I'm networking my house up later in the year so will have on then :) But your words have been useful :) |
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I thought you used linux off and on? firewall on your PC is fine, especially if you're too lazy to have other devices; sometimes you don't have the luxury of having a nice filter. Usually I use a cheap box (last one was a p100 I picked up), but at the moment, in my small apartment, I just use software firewalls on the my laptop--better than nothing, and also nice because they can adapt to whatever the laptop wants and sees at the moment. |
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I can call you names untill he shows if you like? =o) |
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Feh, you lunix zealots would rather spend days pissing around with command line equations instead of just buying a cheap router and spending your spare time golfing. :D pOgO, insult mister nerd here instead. |
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it's definitely sensible to just by a router for <$100 which gives wireless access, filters, etc etc; I didn't disagree with your point, merely with some of the comments used when substantiating it. don't call me a linux zealot, I'll start thinking I've really lost it |
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Your avatar looks like an algae's vagina |
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The thing I prefer about hardware firewalls is they require no thinking by the user, so they're safer. And if the user wants to change something he's 100% more likely to read the manual, whereas with software he'll just click things and mess it up. Plus many routers have extra ports in case someone wants to bring over a laptop. |
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Just got back from finishing off my home network (hence having been offline a couple of days). I changed over which machine was the firewall one and got "Sassered" :-( All fixed now though! |
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excuses excuses :P |
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I agree with your sensible point--the only thing I contested was the implied 'never ever ever depend on firewalling only at the level of the target machine'. pOgO: who's the algae? |
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make sure its fire resistant |
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only needed if it houses some sort of on-line community |
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a slight thread hijack my father-in-law has trouble with slsk when he searches he gets no results yet he can d/l straight from me through slsk could this be due to his firewall? *note i havnt checked his pc setup yet |
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yo momma >=oD |
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fleetmouse, but you forget maybe...just what happened with the latest exploits of so called "cheap linksys routers". hah, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! onboard hardware is better than software, indeed. |
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it wouldn't surprise me if that onboard 'firewall' was actually a cpu in itself running a version of embedded linux. the 'wizard' in windows simply interfaces to it to add rules. all sorts of wierd shit is coming out these days. fyi, proper linux firewalling absolutely fucking pisses on these cheap-firewalling-only-via-nat devices. it's got nothing do with being a zealot, it's called actually having more power over things. of course, i could point out that most the devices actually do run, shock, embedded linux anyway :-) |
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What, the DHCP/BOOTP exploit? Fixed. |
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no, the backdoor username/password. their 'fix' was to change the username/password. yeah, real faith in their products now. |
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No, you're thinking of Netgear. Linksys did have a problem on one of their wireless routers where remote admin was always on even if you turned it off. The solution is easy - change the password! |
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Oh duh, you are talking about Linksys - but come on, changing the password from the default is something that should be done on every piece of gear you buy. |
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the solution was NOT easy. as it was exploited and took quite a while before a solution was in place. Bah, I don't discuss weak SOHO eq. ne ways. H8 |
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but yeah, fleet is on the right track, having the public IP on an interface OTHER than your actual computer is 1 step in the right direction. But still, the onboard firewall is another great step in home security. |
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thanks for the help people :D You've also helped me know what wireless companies to ignore :) |
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I sewed a buffalo pussy to my lips to show you what not to do. |
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backdoor password. you can't change it; it's seperate from the admin password. |
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here's a not very funny picture relating to the topic: |
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