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Is everyone voting in this, and who are you voting for? I went for the liberal democrats over here. Although the cannabis alliance did seem rather tempting... hmm... legalise.... |
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People in Europe don't vote, they are ruled by Kings and Queens, and they have no freedom! That's what they teach us here in America where we are free. |
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i voted liberal demorats too, they are the least worst of the main 3 |
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i voted i'm a leftie :) |
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i never vote politicians in my view always promise stuff but never deliever the way things are going we're heading for 1984 :( |
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Only if you let it... LOL |
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heading for 1984? that means we're heading back to the good old days ;) |
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Well, tell me, who should I vote for? |
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mappatazee my vote wouldn't ever count. votes don't mean a thing in a totalitarianistic place Morton 1984 by George Orwell |
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Voting is the minimal democratic obligation. Lobby, protest, leaflet, stand yourself. Don't sit back and watch it go to shit! Now breathe.... |
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lol, i know mate, i was kidding in that post :) |
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100 posts! To celebrate, have an animation : |
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wicked! :) |
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Thanks. Just got the hang of photoshop and image ready today. - Thanks. |
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What's this european elections trickery? The Lord of the manor won't let me outside of the gates so I don't really know about this stuff. The 'peasants alliance' is apparently planning an escape after this seasons crop passes. Will hopefully be getting involved. |
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Democracy is bad because it gives stupid people a point of view. There should be a some sort of test before you get to vote. Look what happened in America |
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Yeah, I voted. I really hope we don't get further embroiled in Europe :-/ |
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UKIP? Surely not! |
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Didn't the vote make a change in Spain? |
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No I think that was a terrorist act |
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oscillic, apathy is such a dangerous thing. it's so easy to cop out and say 'it won't make a difference', but if 40% of the population say that then it bloody well will. and anyway, even if there's no one you actively want, there must be a party you definitely *don't* want. vote for someone just to keep the bnp (or whichever party you strongly object to) proportion of the vote lower. |
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oscillik, even. i suck. |
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at the moment i have the right to not vote (although plans are in effect to make it compulsory here in the UK apparently). with the introduction of compulsory ID cards coming ever closer, what else are we going to be dictated to do? i'm sorry, but i will not be told what to do. i will not vote if i don't want to, and they will have to put me in jail before i will pay for an ID card that they are making us all have. 40 fucking pounds for an ID card. they can fucking whistle |
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don't worry about it if it helps, just call me osc ;) i know it's a pain in the arse to spell |
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They do it in Australia (I think) and if you don't you get a £5 fine. I agree with you on that point though, if you don't want to vote then that is your decision. However, electoral participation is vital for a functioning democracy. The more people who vote, then hopefully the more people becoming engaged with the political scene. With this, hopefully people can come in that aren't doing it for 'the nobility's obligation' but for getting the 'everyman' in power. If that makes any sense at all. |
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I think it is a good idea to make voting compulsary. |
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i'll see you in jail brother |
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Compulsary voting? That's wank! They can't make me! Bastards! I've never voted in my life cos a) I don't care enough about any of the people who run in these elections, and b) I don't know enough about what politics is all about cos it's terribly terribly dull and cos of a) |
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Spatchcock: No, I never vote for parties that lack policies on anything other than their key issue. Parties like Plaid Cymru, The Green Party, BNP, UKIP, etc. all have one key policy, which they see as some holy grail- they think when that's done, everything else will neatly fall into place. If any of them ever got into power we'd be buggered. Oscillik: Yes, the ID cards = very bad idea. |
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yes but the thing is this: i don't know much about politics. i personally don't give a fuck about it, because as said before it's very rare that a political party ever seems to do what they say. why the hell should i waste my precious time out of work following what is happening in the political world so that i can make a judgment on who to vote for? i work 8 hours a day, Monday to Friday. I get home at about 5:10pm. I have to go to sleep at the very latest at 12 midnight if i'm ever going to get up in the morning. That leaves me about 6-7 hours of free time every day. I also have to make food in this time and eat it, which i'd allocate an hour to. I would rather pay a fine or go to jail or something than waste the precious little time i have to use for political reasons. i have more important things to do |
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im not going to vote ofcourse. |
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Ha ha, when I was younger I voted for a party simply because I was mates with the candidate's daughter. Politics = Pantomime for ugly people. I take a reluctant interest in it. They're all a bunch of lying, cheating crooks, you just have to choose the ones slightly closer to what is important to you. |
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jazembo just don't get any ideas lol xceque yes, compulsory voting looks like it might make it's way over here. there's already talk about putting a tax on chocolate and "fatty" foods for fucks sake. if i wanna eat chocolate and eat Big Macs i should be allowed to do it without having to pay a "fat tax" i'm as thin as a fucking rake, but i eat like a horse. |
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I agree if you take little/no interest in politics, you shouldn't vote. People who vote for one particular party just because their parents/partner does are lame IMO. |
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Thats a very pesamistic attitude :) I hate to sound like a twat but politics influences everything, in the west we are sheltered and think that without it everything will carry on. IMO every country could potentially collapse economically at any minute because of a political decision, but people don't seem to realise that. To be honest I can't really understand people who don't want to vote. |
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lol it's funny how it takes something negative like 4 more years of george dubya to drag non-voters out of the closet...sheesh. we americans. if the world were a school, we'd be the ones on the short bus. |
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yes that is very lame. you should either: vote if you actually give a shit or don't bother. my voting stuff came in the post the other day. the bin agreed to use my vote on my behalf |
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The idea of a "fat tax" is laughable. Whilst I think you need to draw the line at things like people taking up 2/3 seats on an airline, yet only having to pay for 1, even in the UK where the health service is nationalised, it's not justifiable. The way the government paint it is, fat people are less fit, so they use the NHS more, so they pick your pocket. The reality is, the VAT on confectionary (cakes, sweets, candy, biscuits, pies, etc.) pays for any additional "health costs" more than 4 times over. |
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You should see if you can "sell" your vote to an overly zealous mate (so lnog as they don't use it for a party you vehemently oppose). Illegal, but so long as you agree on it in the privacy of your home and you actually turn up to the polling station, it's almost impossible to detect. |
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i'm a pessimistic person. i would rather sit back and watch everyone vote for a government that is gonna electronically tag you, and take a sample of your DNA at birth so that they can put you on a database and track you every step that you make, and discriminate against you because you have a genetically programmed possibility of getting heart disease and say that i wouldn't have anything to do with it. |
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its a secret ballot, or is it? your fucking name is on the sheet. fuck that. |
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I can't understand why people claim "because we struggled for the right to vote and in some countries you wouldn't be able to" that it means I must to vote. Cos, clearly I don't. I don't care enough. It's not interesting enough to me. I was born in 1971 and so I've lived through party changes enough to know that there's really not much difference. I can't afford to live no matter who is in power. |
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Ceri CJ exactly. fucking VAT. but it isn't impossible to detect is it? i thought that the form has your name on? either way, they're probably watching me with their satellites |
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Nope, they sign off your name when you turn up to collect the sheets, but the sheets themselves offer no identifying info (unless they secretly film the serial numbers of the sheet handed to people). I've never been too fussed about secret ballots. So long as you don't like somewhere like Zimbabwe, it doesn't really matter if people see who you vote for. I suppose people like BNP supporters might want to keep it secret though... |
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the fat tax. funny...a friend just told me the other day that the UK is going the way of the US, high percentage of citizens overweight etc...that's too bad, because the problem as it exists here (something like 60 or 70% of americans are overweight)...that's disgusting, wasteful, inexcusable when people go hungry |
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IMO you can't complain about the government if you don't vote... if you don't want that government in power then vote for a different one. I am strongly left, I am quite optomistic about Britian in Europe etc. I find the 'fat tax' thing amusing... can't really work out how that one's gonna get past John Prescott. |
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Yes- people in some countries struggled for religious freedom, but if you're a cynical aetheist (by that, I mean one who'd mimic going to church etc. in an oppressive christian regime), that doesn't mean a thing to you. |
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everyone has a right not to vote. and in my opinion not voting is still voting. you are still voicing your opinion. god help us if we are ever forced to vote. 1984 here we come. |
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That tubby bitch probably has a nuclear bunker style stash of vaccum sealed pies and cakes in his basement for such an event. |
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