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By now it must be about a year ago i donated some bucks to Phobia in order to support xltronic and seeing the page getting finished, or at least seeing it progress... In the past year nothing happened at all in my view. Maybe some stuff was added to the discog but even stuff like the mike & rich CD (or 12"), chris clark's empty the bones of you CD and loads of vsnares' releases aren't even there (not even mentioning all missing covers). I think it pretty sad that it isn't even possible for someone to find things like afx interviews, trivia or a decent discography on the sites that used to contain all these info and possibilities, like aphextwin.nu/xltronic.com and watmm. All this stuff has been offline for months, if not years. In the past we were told that the site would come online somewhere in 2001 or 2002, if i recall well (sorry for my bad long term memory) and now all we hear now and then is that the wheels are in motion (like for the past couple of months: 'more stuff coming soon people'). It may be understood that i won't pay for another year of support/membership. Not that i care about the few bucks, but the fact that i don't see anything happening at all with the money bothers me. If there would be more (or at least any..) progress in the site i would be willing to support and that way seeing it getting better and better, but that's not the way it is. Please don't see this as a big middlefinger to the ones that create(d) xltronic, i'm just explaining why i won't support anymore. imo it was rather naive to try and create a discog with that many arists and features with so little people working on it, it'll never get finished if you ask me. I'm aware that many people have already complained about this and that i don't tell anything new (of course i'm 'just another moaner'), but imo you gotta give people who support something (like for instance progress), you can't let'em wait forever. Hej då. |
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Controversial. |
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Times that dog_belch has made me smile: 1. "Controversial" |
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well, keeping up this mb alone costs quite a lot of money, if I understand correctly, so if you spend quite some time here, it's nice to give something back. I mean, I didn't donate because of all the stuff that's supposed to be coming, but because of what already is here: the messageboard. and I WANTED TO POST PICTURES AGAIN!!!!1121!!!!! |
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btw that is a visual representation of Shope & Holland, which is which I don't know, what the hell, maybe it really IS them. |
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humm. |
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I hope you are going to keep a running tally of the times I touch your soul. Donate to me and I promise to be funnier. |
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do you have a large writers staff? |
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Every summer I get a couple of creative writing students in doing work experience. I get them to do me about 10,000 posts that I can use over the next year, then use a combination of XML and SQL to automatically post them when the appropriate topic comes up. |
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Anus_Presley > this reply goes very well with your avatar. |
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do you still write your own posts now and then? or did your writers foresee this thread? |
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i'm actually the 15 pixel feather around the image |
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classy. |
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I know now why you cry. But it's something I can never do. |
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Wow i just read that whole thing. Hey i just thought of something.... why not see if there is anything you can do to help and speed up the process. |
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that's not what he paid for!!!! |
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i gave my little bit, i don't miss the money, but i don't have enough money to give morre than the basic. i hope it doesn't go underr, but i'm harrdly the perrson to stop it doing so if it's gonna. |
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phob won't just let anybody help, as far as i know he chose a few people to help him on the site and that's it, same counts for the discog, i read in a couple of threads that people offered to help him on the discog but he only wants certain people to work on it, to ensure the good quality of it. fair enough i'd say, but then again with a huge discog like that it wouldn't hurt to let more people add stuff imo. unfortunately i don't know how i myself could help really, i'm not very good with computers, i don't have specific/interesting information about artists and i don't have scans etc. to help on the discog, the only way i could help was by donating and that i did |
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i do get your point though, it's easy to complain, i know but my point is that all the patience and donations could be rewarded by showing something more from the site, i know the intention is to show everything at once when it's done, but my guess is that that might be a long time and people won't know if there's anything happening and what they're waiting for |
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nice picture... and I agree with what you said. I want this site to run eventhough it's not finished! |
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I don't see it as wasted. Admittedly it's a shame the site isn't ready but there's a good reason for it and Phob isn't forcing you to pay. There is stuff going on I'm sure of it and we're just not seeing it all. It would be good though if there was a section where we could submit stuff that was missing and we have the information for. A holding area maybe. It wouldn't be part of the discog till a Mod pressed the yes button or whatever. |
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that sounds like a great idea to me but then i didnt even donate but id happily help |
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I haven't donated any money as of yet, mainly due to the fact that I don't have any money for myself, let alone the board. If I had donated money I would be quite pissed off, as I hardly see any changes. The main point of my being pissed off would come from the feeling of being let down. We make a huge effort to be a part of the community and keep xltronic alive. When I see the homepage getting updated once in a blue moon I feel let down. I feel that there are few IDM fans out there and I think xltronic (with it's buzzing forum) should be up to date with IDM news. I mean how hard is it to write a couple of paragraphs on the homepage? I'd be happy to do it! Don't tell me you need to employ people to write a couple of paragraphs. Phobiazero has more than enough writing skills. |
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my money, if i'm honest, was donated to keeping the MB alive. |
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yeah to me it sounds pretty naive to donate money for a site that isn't even up and running.. |
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Anus_Presley did you think that because you didn't believe anything was going to happen? |
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did i think what? |
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I'll donate money once they get rid of the eyes at the top of the page (this is a lie). |
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my money, if i'm honest, was donated to keeping the MB alive. You say 'If i'm honest', which suggests an opinion. I was asking, did you believe that your money was only for the MB as you had given up hope in anything else happening with the site? |
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Yeah those eyes are triflin' |
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oh rright... no, i hadn't given up hope, it's just that the MB is the most imporrtant featurre of XLT to me. i don't carre about 99% of the arrtists that the site is going to be about. |
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also, the site doesn't exist, i've neverr seen it, how can it be imporrtant to me? |
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Just hosting the Xltvibes costs bucks... Each one is downloaded literally thousands of times and they're big files = lots of bandwidth. |
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I'd be more inclined to pay if it was for the messageboard only (2$ perhaps), not all those expensive discography bells and whistles, and not for phobiazero and ceri jc expensive manicures. |
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Maybe there should be two seperate donation accounts? 1 for the MB (say a few $$$) and the other for website costs (maybe a few more $$$$)? I personally would donate to both as I would like to see some features on the xltronic web pages. |
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I understand morton´s first post its "human" to feel that way |
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morton didn't say he wanted the site to be finished right now. he was simply expressing his disappointment at the lack of apparent progress made on the site in the last year, coupled with the fact that he thought he was helping the process along by donating his small share. i agree with him. |
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I read 15% of this thread - I want my money back |
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HA HA ooh that made me laugh, even if you didn't intend it to, nacmat! |
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$10...wow...shit...you donated $10, shit you have been ripped off mate. 8072 posts means you have donated $0.0012 a post assuming you have never used the discog or downloaded a vibes. I can see why you are pissed off, it's only human. As phobia has stated in the past it costs $1200 a year to just pay for the hosting. That means 120 people would have to donate just to cover the cost of the board...I don't quite think that many have. |
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:) why? |
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as i said in this thread it's not about the ten bucks, i just expected that more would be done with the donations than keeping the mb running and letting us download the vibes, maybe more is happening but we don't see it, this way people don't see what the use of donating is imo |
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Did you read the thread? |
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It's always a little 'forbidden' in my eyes to complain about the delays of the site. And ofcourse, people are busy and it costs a lot of money, but i'm also starting to have different feelings about it.. A few years back i was very exciting about this whole xltronic project. And now, i'm not excited about that at all anymore. I just don't know what's going on. On the one hand i can understand, maybe in some nearby future we will see more. But when? I don't have a clue about it. I want to be involved, to know what's going on, that's a part of a 'community' too, right? And then you know why you're donating. I expected more, but ofcourse i don't blame anyone. I can understand Morton's first post though. Still i feel we're not allowed to discuss it, but it's been since 21 August 2001 like this. That's 2,5 years! The only thing i would love to see is a little more open mind about the xltronic status. And a definitive xltronic releasedate. and a little more moderation. There are still way to many shit-threads going on. I want to donate for IDM music information, and useful experiences of others. |
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i don't think it's a secret that the money you donate go to paying for keeping the server, and not to developing the page. Phob has recently said that he is busy at work, but he'll get to working on the page when he has the time. |
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I have already suggested this, but Phob didn't think it was a good idea. |
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this thread makes me sad... |
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hahahahahaa! (now I hope that was jesting! hahaha!) <--------------- |
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Just remembered. I broke my AIM so I haven't been able to get on there to tell you I have the scans. BAM! |
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