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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 19:15 [#01209413]
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with the rotk dvd just coming out, does anyone know any up-to-date news about the extended version?
right before the movie was out in theaters i heard that peter jackson was adding a lot of scenes to the extended version, but after a quick search today i see that this may not be happening. but, this 'news' is 5 months old. amazon.com has the extended version listed as coming, but gives no release date, or info.
what's the digs?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 19:16 [#01209415]
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hee hee 'RTOK'
*jumps out the window*
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wimp
on 2004-05-26 19:23 [#01209423]
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Expect a fall release.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 19:42 [#01209451]
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do you have any links / will the new scenes be added?
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wimp
on 2004-05-26 19:48 [#01209457]
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Behold!
The bulk of the new scenes are reported to be the confrontation with Saruman at the beginning of the film, Frodo and Sam's infiltration of the orc army in Mordor, and the Houses of Healing in Minas Tirith.
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wimp
on 2004-05-26 20:37 [#01209483]
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I'm stoked.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 20:42 [#01209486]
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me too. totally.
i'm planning a marathon viewing session where i watch all three extended versions back to back.
i'll probably never watch them again after that.. or i'll go insane and start showing up to work in a full wizzard's robe and get beat up by rednecks.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-26 20:45 [#01209489]
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The ultimate set of nerd films that I will possibly have to watch some day...although I have avoided Star Wars so far in my life so I might get away with never seeing them.
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wimp
on 2004-05-26 20:51 [#01209497]
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I love Lord of the Rings, my girlfriend loves Harry Potter; nerds unite!
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-26 20:53 [#01209500]
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RoTK
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-05-26 20:57 [#01209507]
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retock
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 20:59 [#01209511]
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i wanna see more of sauron
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 21:00 [#01209513]
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that wasn't supposed to be a followup to ecnad.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-05-26 21:00 [#01209514]
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you want to see his staff
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 21:00 [#01209515]
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dude, did you see today's achewood? i nearly died
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wimp
on 2004-05-26 21:05 [#01209522]
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There's going to be a character named The Mouth of Sauron (he's from the books) who greets Aragorn and Co. at the Gates of Mordor. I've seen pictures of him in a magazine; pretty damn awesome.
More info about the character and who's going to play him...
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 21:07 [#01209525]
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awesome!
that's the gyrocopter pilot from mad max, and the trainman from the matrix
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-05-26 21:07 [#01209526]
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its like onstad knows us.
(fun fact, he's our age)
isnt today your birthday or something?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 21:09 [#01209528]
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it will be in an hour
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-26 21:11 [#01209534]
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epohs the grey
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-05-26 21:13 [#01209539]
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epohs the ghey
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-26 23:07 [#01209638]
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ROTK: NO!!!
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wisp
from Buffalo (United States) on 2004-05-26 23:19 [#01209647]
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i really wish they would have shot the Scouring of the Shire,and added it.. but if they did it right,that would have been a full 45 mins..if not longer. bleh
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-27 01:42 [#01209762]
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these movies are the best... I can't wait to watch it again!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-27 01:50 [#01209770]
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fucking abbreviations!
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-17 09:59 [#01428703]
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Just in case you missed it; it's out now.
Has anyone seen it? If so, are the additional 50 minutes rad or what?
It's on it's way from amazon.com to my house right now.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 10:03 [#01428707]
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yes, I have seen it.
it's a little over four (4) hours now and it is better than the theatrical cut, as was the case with the other extended cuts.
a bit more is set up and/or explained.
the whole Saruman-bit is nice to see, except that he throws a fireball at Gandalf, which is pretty dumb.
nicest restored scene for me was the Mouth of Sauron. that looks quite great. :)
be warned about the documentaries: especially the last disc is a weepfest - because, you know, the actors really became a fellowship of sorts and now it's over boohoo etc.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 10:08 [#01428715]
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also fun to listen to the actors-commentary track.
most fun is the huge difference between how the American actors and the English actors speak. this is heard best in the combo Billy Boyd & Dominic Monaghan (Pippin & Merry) and on the other hand Elijah Wood & Sean Astin (Frodo & Sam).
Wood and Astin can't stop from gushing over the film, how great the experience was, how special, etc. etc. etc.
Boyd and Monaghan are making silly jokes just about the whole film through - they do make useful comments too but with a lot of humour, most of it being genuinely funny.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-17 10:16 [#01428730]
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i can't wait for my marathon viewing session.
it's going to be gloriously excruciating.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 10:18 [#01428734]
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couple of friends of mine are doing that tomorrow.
I don't think I could stand that. eventhough there will be copious amounts of beer there. and I'm talking the GOOD beer here.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-17 10:21 [#01428741]
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can i come?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 10:25 [#01428756]
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I think so.
oh I wanted to ask you - what did you do to delirium-vault.com?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 10:28 [#01428762]
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found a possible answer after a bit of a google:
> Hi, > > Any idea what's going on with Delirium Vault? ( > http://delirium-vault.com ) It's been offline for about the last day or
> so. >
There have been big DDOS attacks on several BT trackers this week - starting on Wedneday.
:(
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-17 10:32 [#01428770]
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I think it broke 47.2 seconds before I tried to log in for the first time.
:'(
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 10:32 [#01428771]
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:(
hope it comes back up soon.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-12-17 10:49 [#01428800]
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Boyd and Monaghans coments for Two Towers where awesome . Like when they explained how Jackson had trained 6 million ants for extras in Mordor mass scenes and how he was alowed to rip four of their arms and legs of. They gave their 100% for the movie haha! Or that Sam has mariuana in the little salt box. Its true , they are genuinely funny.
I have seen the ee version and the mouth of sauron scene was my favorite to (aswell in the book). Jesus what a freak!! the way he speaks and moves , its so bizzare and erie in a way.
i also really liked the scene where sam and frodo are forced to march with the orchs in mordor and then stop for the inspection. That big fat orch/troll thing with the white eyes was soo awesome. Really well made with the make up and all , and Jackson is so good with these scary/funny Orch scenes , the way he turns around and opens his eyes and the music just gets really dark , i actually got goosebumps haha!.
I love the way the extended versions flow better. The teatrical versions feels like the sloppy versions. Like for example you never get to see that disscusting limp orch generall die , he just kinda fades away in the battle scenes but in the real version you see him get killed by Gimli and Aragon.
I can't whait to see the extra dvds. I heard about the abandomed Aragon vs Sauron concept . How did that look qrter ? could it have worked ?
I think they have left a bunch of scenes that really builds up for that to happen but i doesn't.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-17 11:03 [#01428830]
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it's true. the extended versions are better.
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wimp
on 2004-12-17 11:07 [#01428836]
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I haven't even seen this yet. Work and school sucks.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-17 11:10 [#01428838]
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it's true. Work and school sucks.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 11:12 [#01428841]
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oh yes, that Frodo and Sam inbetween the orcs scene is good, I have to agree.
on the Sauron-fight: they show bits of that Aragorn vs. Sauron sequence - he first would appear in his Majan form, bathed in white light (you get to see a special effects shot of that), the most beautiful creature in the world - on the dvd they say they were thinking of Kate Winslett or Cate Blanchett (apparently she hadn't been cast as Galadriel yet) for that role.
you see footage of Aragorn fighting the stuntguy who plays Sauron. looks a bit silly, but any footage without sound- and visual effects looks a bit silly.
they did use that fighting footage but replaced Sauron with the cavetroll that is in the finished film - they even use the shot that was made as Aragorn seeing the white light form of Sauron in the film.
Jackson decided away from the idea because he wanted the focus to be on Frodo, not Aragorn.
I read on a Lord of the Rings website that looks more to the books, that there is no indication in the books that Sauron doesn't have a physical form - in fact, there is more evidence that he does have a physical form than not.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-12-17 11:25 [#01428861]
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I'm glad they dropped the Aragorn/Sauron fight scene.
If you're going strictly by the books, Sauron is no longer able to assume a form pleasing to the eye by this time ... but can still have a physical form - as when Isildur cuts off the Ring. His appearance after he lost the Ring is mostly left to your imagination (as it probably should).
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-12-17 11:32 [#01428869]
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i was against that kind of scene first but now i kinda wish they would have done it. There is a huge difference on what works in a book and what works on the big screne. If they could do all these endless shots of arwen and aragon love stuff (like half of two towers) they could damnwell have done the big fight at the sauron confrontation at the end and make it work.
and all this talk about focus on frodo is annoying too , like for example the door to moria thing where Frodo solves the riddle and not Merry who is in the books hinted to be a clever little bastard. And there is no mention of Hobbits being particulary good at solving riddles wich is one of their favorite games. Now im being silly perhaps . But i think a sauron at the end would have been the real "money shot" .
Maybe Jackson will go mental like george lucas one day and redo the movies like "they where ment to be" .
Maybe he too will go "there should have been a sauron fight!!"
Maybe that will be his very last words when he dies at some deppresing New Zeland hospital .
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2004-12-17 11:37 [#01428875]
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You can probably enact that fight yourself in the computer game. :)
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-12-17 11:40 [#01428878]
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And we never really get any real idea of what his fysical form really is in the books either wich is really cool cause you geat all these mental images in your head.
It is hinted somewhere that his skinn is burnt black ashes .
And in silmarilion before he gets really powerfull he is more of a evil wizard type character i think.
But books is books and movies are movies. I think the big armour thing worked pretty well in the movies. I liked all the details on the armour , all the little evil runes and secret scrools all over the thing, made him look ancient.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-12-17 16:16 [#01429431]
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Return the of King!!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-12-17 16:17 [#01429433]
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I am getting this for Christmas... so I will not read anything in the thread! :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-17 18:08 [#01429510]
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well, the appearance of any character is very sparsly described in the books (as I understand, I haven't read them), but it IS film, etc. etc.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-12-17 18:17 [#01429517]
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"Maybe Jackson will go mental like george lucas one day and
redo the movies like "they where ment to be" . "
If ever he would decide to do such a thing, he'd better erase the ghastly green glowing ghost army from the celluloid.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-12-17 19:51 [#01429577]
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Yeah those scenes are shit!! They look like they would belong better in Ghostbusters.
The ghosts Frodo encounters under water in the swamp is ten times cooler or he could have done something like when you get to see the ringwraths real forms wich also worked really well.
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mrgypsum
on 2004-12-17 21:58 [#01429653]
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what about the whole last half of the ROTK book? frodo and the others going back, taking the shire away from wormtongue and saruman, i was pissed not seeing this in the movie, great place for it in the extended, but its not mentioned here, oh well
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