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Me? I was going for 100%!!! |
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As much as I don't like Bush...and his administration....look to the republican party as a whole first. Now..I'm no walking fact based kid or even that well educated in politics, but I feel that the republican party as a whole got someone into office (Bush) who they could boss around. I mean....just look at how scandalous that election was. I need not remind what happened at the end when they were counting votes by hand. Anyway, this whole war isn't Bush's fault and his adminstration. Sure they DO have blame, but like I said it's the whole Republican Party. No offense, but Bush is not the brightest man around. I can see him being very gullible. off-topic: You gotta love Bush's response to whoever was interviewing him and said around the lines "So what do you think history will say about you years down the road." His response, while I don't think exact was "It doesn't matter, we're all going to die anyway." I dunno that just erked me. |
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straw man, anyone? |
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"funny 3/4 of your content of your post just became name-calling defensive instead of actual debate material. :(" if you honestly didnt see my point against him, and why it was justified, then I'm not even going to bother continueing in this debate. Its very obvious, the point I was making, which was in response to him. please see nacmats response. thank you. *know what else is funny? that 100% of your post is trying to discredit me (almost like name calling) and not actual debate material. In fact it doesnt even raise points relating to the topic at all, unlike mine. Yours is just your (flawed) view on my post. So, keep up the hard work guys. But unfortunatly, I think you'll need to double your efforts. |
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zues has a good point. keep your friends closer and keep your enemies even closer. |
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close* |
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*Zeus |
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"if you honestly didnt see my point against him, and why it was justified, then I'm not even going to bother continueing in this debate. Its very obvious, the point I was making, which was in response to him." have you seen his avatar? of course he doesn't get it. |
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but having gloria estefan as an avatar does make things clearer. err ok. |
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*smacks forehead* |
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zeus obviously you see things in a different shade of light than i do. i know the things i dont like in this world. i dont like the obvious wrongs in the world. war isn't the greatest thing in the world, but that comes hard to say whne you think of the others who are suffereing at the wrong hands of other people. i'm more worried about the thousands of people who have a future in iraq as oppose to the unfornate individual caught between the crossfire of this war going on now. israel is a prime example of what goes on in the middle east when you aren't culturally and religously accepted. i dont think you can't deny these things i've said because they're obviously shown in the news all the time. you want to see this war as "the cup being half empty" fine by me you're entitled to that. i'm also entitled to stand up in what i believe in. |
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"I'm not even going to bother continueing in this debate." *silly comments aside |
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I cant understand why some americans try to justify the crimes that their goverment commit instead of just admitting it |
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I cant understand why some americans try to justify the crimes that their goverment commit instead of just admitting it |
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did I have to post that twice?? probably yes |
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hahaha :-D |
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"israel is a prime example of what goes on in the middle east when you aren't culturally and religously accepted." Israel is a prime example of how isolated the US is when it comes to their foreign policy, just about every resolution put against Israel is vetoed by the US. Also I heard Israel refuses weapons inspectors into their country, but thats ok, because they are friends with the US. |
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why can't people have other ideas than what a majority of board members think. and why when they share it are they atacked? these topics are getting so old, try talking about music for once. your not cool |
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don't be silly, how can the US Administration commit crimes? In order to do that they would have to adhere to some kind of international law... which they do, only when it suits them. I mean, the UN decided not to go to war with Iraq, but the US did anyway because it is was self defence! |
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he started it *points to nora* but seriously... the majority of americans (or at least the majority of the american media) is pro bush. Im so sick and tired of hearing it. Id love to talk about music, but when someone comes on the board with this junk, its open game to tear them apart. Nora posted this topic. She expressed her views. We expressed ours. The fact that the majority is against her, is coincidence. I have no problem with people having thier own opinions... but if they want to share it, then they take the risk of other people not agreeing, and stating thier opinion. |
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israel gets terrorists attacks on a daily basis and the best you guys can do is complain about how israel isn't subjected to vigious inspections. pah-lease. i thought you were done debating zoos. |
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or "he" nora/seth. person who didnt specify gender. |
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I wasnt continueing in the debate. just explaining to someone how a debate works. |
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If Israel is so justified in its murdering of civilians with US bought Apache hellicopters, demolishing civilian homes and firing on protesters with gunships then why does 99% of the world condemn their actions? |
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the only thing i retract from my responses are the derogative statements. sometimes i cant help it, as i'm sure the other person can't when you feel the other person just isn't getting it. but this forum doesn't allow you to edit your responses. so when you make a mistake its branded for all eternity. |
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i love this msg board, and how you are unable to edit your posts. (except when I get really hammered and post spam). due continue. |
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thanks elusive for keeping it real |
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well my friends... you can't go back in time to fix the wrongs that you have done. Just like all the damage we've done, by invading Iraq. It will take a long time to repair our (deservedly) tarnished image. |
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I still love american people I ve spent 5 months there and everybody was really nice to me |
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that's coz you don't look arab. |
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I was a 13 year old kid anyway... but people were nice to me,... and my heart remembers that |
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weird, they hate kids too...you must have looked older... |
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do you guys know ANYONE involved with this situation????????????????? |
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"If Israel is so justified in its murdering of civilians with US bought Apache hellicopters, demolishing civilian homes and firing on protesters with gunships then why does 99% of the world condemn their actions? " Not nearly as many civilians are killed as the "media" reports. they are misleadng in their numbers, which count all palestinian deaths as one. that includes civilians and terrorists. 99% of the world condemns israel because they are antisemetic. the homes are demolished usually because they were once home to suicide bombers and thus become honored places which promote more terrorism. if you do some research israel has done more for peace in the past 10 years than the palestinians can pretend to. they fake peace efforts when in reality they teach their own, including children to hate. |
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wow, where do you get your info? |
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Tolstoyed, Please........I live just outside of Dearborn, MI. I can conclude that for the majority, your statement is completely false. |
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what statement? |
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what point are you trying to argue? all of what i said? because its fact |
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"99% of the world condemns israel because they are antisemetic. the homes are demolished usually because they were once home to suicide bombers and thus become honored places which promote more terrorism." 99%? and youre trying to tell me, the 11,000 people who just lost thier homes in the gaza strip... they are ALL terrorists? |
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well i'd be interested to hear why would you think different about "Not nearly as many civilians are killed as the "media" reports" |
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notice i said, the homes of suicide bombers, i wasn't commenting on the one you were. 99% was the figure the person before me said, ofcourse thats an exxageration but you cant deny the amount of anti semetism that is out there |
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"the homes are demolished usually because they were once home to suicide bombers and thus become honored places which promote more terrorism." so why are all the other houses bulldozed? hmm? |
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the point i'm trying to make is to sympathize with the palestinians and bash israeli isnt right, sure the palestinians have some value to their cause but to bash israeli is wrong, the palestians dont want peace or to let isareli exist. thats fact |
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so you'd condemn israeli for that and praie the palestinians for their actions? |
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and yes, there is alot of anti-semitism... but whenever someone says something bad about israel, you cant always throw down the anti-semitism card. there are plenty of reasons for people to be pissed off at the israelis... and not because they are jewish |
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i wasn't using the race card i was responding to why mst of the world condemns israeli, and a lot of it is anti-semitism |
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if you read my comments earlier, I said palistine is not blame free. its just that israel isnt either, like many people like to portray them. the whole reason they are mentioned in this debate, is because someone justified invading iraq, because of 15 broken resolutions. israel has 68. we were making the point that using the excuse "but they broke 15 resolutions" for going to war, is BS. |
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"the palestians dont want peace or to let isareli exist. thats fact" and vice versa |
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all of what everything is saying is bias... that's why.... FUCK YOU BOTH!!!! bahyayyayayayaahahahahahahahah |
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you made baby jesus cry |
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