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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 06:54 [#01184086]
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there's people who like putting stuff like this up, like wooferattack and nacmat
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 06:55 [#01184089]
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you shouldnt believe there's really a best, taste is a factor too,
so then it's just a good way of getting people to have their music heard
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 06:56 [#01184090]
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My aim is to not be the worst. I think that's a good objective.
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 06:57 [#01184093]
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is no music better than bad music im afraid not i still havent listened to you btw will do
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 06:58 [#01184095]
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I think.. with jazembos list, it's a go to start the prelims... eh?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 06:58 [#01184096]
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Really? I thought you had. Somecalled big left a comment for me :s
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 06:59 [#01184097]
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..or maybe.. we'll start it when this thread runs over 100 posts? that's a nice start-signal... (shifts page for me! haha!)
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 07:00 [#01184101]
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yeah, i did that though, haha im now listening to organ, sounds a bit promo-like i like it
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2004-05-12 07:03 [#01184102]
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Sounds intriguing, I must get round to reading 'the reinvention' some day.
Have your people contact my people and we can take it from there. I am going to get some sleep now.
You might want to contact Phobiazero about this, I only have contact details for about 50% of that list, the rest hide their email address so Phobiazero will need to either provide the details or send emails on your behalf.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 07:31 [#01184136]
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my aim is not to go out in the 1st round ;)
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 07:40 [#01184144]
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So is there going to be a minimum points for entry to limit numbers? I'd like to enter but I'm a bit of a newbie. :(
Also what timescale? Tracks need finishing. Oh and I need to think of an artist name. Suggestions welcome!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-12 07:41 [#01184146]
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Would it be an idea to have a page somewhere, i mean I could set it up, or someone else could, where say you had a list of all the entrants with links to the appropriate songs, so you could see it all and listen to the tracks in one easy go, rather than trawling through threads? Or was that what you were planning anway and I am just being a monster tit?
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-12 07:43 [#01184149]
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that's a good idea
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 07:48 [#01184154]
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good idea, dog_belch. But first, we HAVE to decide upon who enters... call me negative noonoo, but I don't think 150-odd artists is practicable! :D
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-05-12 07:50 [#01184155]
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you can drop me. I dont like compititions etc
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 07:54 [#01184159]
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who's going to run it? we should not post all the music and shit in this thread.. that'll be too messy... emails would be good.. maybe someone could create a new email at hotmail (not worksafe (this thing with people surfing at work ruins link-gags.. I surf at work...)) or something...
but I'll have to go home from work right now (I don't HAVE to, but the day I work overtime is the day you all die!!!)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 07:55 [#01184162]
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don't be a spoilsport, matthew. I also do not like competitions, but this is a fun way to re-establish the comµnity spirit of Xltronic, and to propagate the music. If people start dropping out, then it will invalidate the whole thing.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 07:55 [#01184163]
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It's easy, just do a group system, with those coming at the top (or near the top) of their groups progressing to a conventional knockout tournament structure. like the world cup, but with laptop geeks!
Everyone in group A can rate everyone in group B, everyone in group B can rate everyone in group C, and so on. So if you want 16 entrants to the tournament round, just divide the entrants into 8 groups and have the artists coming 1st and 2nd in each group go forward to the next round. Personally I think 16 groups and 32 in the tournament would be better if there's >150 entrants.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-12 07:55 [#01184164]
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*fav+*
*close browser*
*shut down*
*go home!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-12 07:58 [#01184166]
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A few questions if I may: -Old tracks or new tracks made FOR the tourney? -Track length limit? -Genre?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-05-12 07:58 [#01184167]
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you just said 150 was too many!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-12 08:03 [#01184172]
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I bet all 150 people in that list wouldn't want to participate. I wonder how many it would be if you set a deadline for people to say they wanted to be part of it? And then go from there.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 08:06 [#01184174]
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yeah good idea. personally I can't work without a deadline.
shouldn't the entries by anonymous, to make it a fair competition (like the autechre remix comp)? and therefore the tracks should all be ones unheard by xlt people before.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 08:06 [#01184175]
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*by=be
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-12 08:10 [#01184181]
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I think the anonymity is a good idea, ooooh, cunning.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 08:25 [#01184198]
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Well, I don't know about creating new tracks for the championship. I was just thinking in line with the IDM Championship 2004. But I guess we could make new tracks solely for the championship.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-12 08:31 [#01184210]
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count me out. I'll pass on this.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-12 11:03 [#01184438]
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I'll give the clitoris that is this championship a flick.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-05-12 11:14 [#01184455]
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im in, let me win the first prize
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-12 11:17 [#01184458]
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all americans have been disqualified for being chiKcens
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-12 11:19 [#01184466]
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kewl.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-12 13:42 [#01184736]
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did I win?
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-05-12 15:57 [#01185067]
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Why?
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-12 19:31 [#01185333]
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this all sounds very interesting. My 2p.............
if this is going ahead it should be new tracks only as many people will have had time to get used to artists previous tracks & that may result in the tracks 'growing' on people.
Wouldn't there be less chance of a draw if the marking system was out of 10 & not 5?
is it still going ahead?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-05-12 19:34 [#01185335]
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eh I changed my mind. Only because I just finished a song.
link
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-12 19:35 [#01185338]
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That's more like it!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 01:38 [#01185625]
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So.. is this still on?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 01:43 [#01185634]
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Maybe there should be challenges.
Create an ambient piece Drill Piece
etc
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-05-13 02:17 [#01185662]
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yeah, thats the idea, not everyone likes dnb, and so on... this would be more smooth with categories
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 02:19 [#01185664]
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???:
D'N'B IDM Chill Jazz Rock South-american Tango Dub House Noise Glitch Classical Progressive Pop
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2004-05-13 03:31 [#01185764]
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I would have said you should just submit what you believe is your VERY BEST work, whether it was made 10 years ago or 10 seconds ago.
Use this as a chance to show the world your true greatness regardless of genre, style age. And if you don't think you have made our best track then you better get to work! :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:33 [#01185768]
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hello, butterfly.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:38 [#01185777]
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but how about getting this thing rolling?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-13 03:46 [#01185786]
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fuck that 'categories'-idea.
if that's used, I'm out.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-13 03:52 [#01185792]
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Yeah it's not practical. We'll spend all year trying to define the boundary between IDM and glitch, or dub and chill, etc etc... there are no boundaries, only a continuum.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 03:59 [#01185799]
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ok. fuck the categories.
But we'll still need to figure out who's comparable as artists for the prelims.. you can't do Archrival vs. Skink, for example (imo).
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-13 04:04 [#01185803]
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indeed. I have no idea what most of those categories really mean musically and I just don't work that way - making music categorically.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-05-13 04:09 [#01185812]
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Yes, ditch the categories - we have to keep this simple if it's to work. I'm stil unsure of having to make new tracks, or submit x amount of tracks. I was thinking of taking in a person's canon into regard, and judging them overall. But.... if there's 10,o00,000 entrants, that could be tricky (disco)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-13 04:13 [#01185819]
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let's just do it like this:
- no genres
- tracks can be whatever you like. old, new.. just your best. it wouldn't really be a musician competition if you had to make new tracks, and you were totally uninspired, and made some crap.. it would be forcing yourself to make music, which is never good.
now.. how do we decide who's in and who's out?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-05-13 04:14 [#01185821]
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there is no way on earth i would participate if i had to create new tracks, i have far too much on my plate as it is at the moment...
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