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is really it people! No more fake photoshop images of it... I truly believe this is what the Nintendo DS will look like :-) And it looks great! In my not so humble opinion! :-D Read the article too. I'm finally beginning to understand what Nintendo is trying to do with the multiple screens and one of them being a touch-screen and so on... "In one demo, players guide a toddler-age Mario as he falls from the sky by drawing clouds." Sounds pretty sweet to me. I had just imagined the touch-screen as something where you would push "buttons" through that screen. But it's actually going to become an active part of gaming... having to draw things (clouds) to play the game. It opens up a world of possibilities. Now I'm actually starting to get excited about this :-) |
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No, Nintendo have once again messed up. :( |
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once again? When did you think was the last time they messed up? I haven't been dissapointed by anything they've released yet. And like you could read in my 1st post, I don't think this is a mistake either. I was sceptical about it... but now I'm starting to get really excited! |
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touch screen sounds boring in my opinion. But it looks kinda like 80s (game / watch - atleast more than their previous portables), which is nice. |
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Sounds quite nice, but the psp looks much nicer |
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I don't want to play advanced games on small formats (not even in big formats, most of the time). But I guess I'll have to 'hope' they'll do do something new and creative with this console. |
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N64 was a mess up. Sony PSP isn't going to look like any cheap $20 PDA. Also the button positions on that photo look really nasty. The touch screen by stylus also sounds a pointless gimmick. |
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That's just another mock up,the DS is not revealed properly at E3 till later on this afternoon.There isin't even any speaker placement on that thing which screams mock up.I wouldn't write it off at all just yet.Interesting quote from a recent interview with Shigeru Miyamoto."I have not seen the PSP," says Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto, creator of the famous Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong characters. "The screen, I believe, is bigger than a DS screen, and I am sure it will have excellent graphic quality." But, he adds, "the PSP will not be able to display anything that you cannot do on a current system. ... We want to do things that you could not do before. We are looking at the creative end." |
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Well the photograph is sourced as Nintendo, and Miyamoto is basically saying the PSP will be more impressive. EA have aready announced future handheld development will be focused on Sonys platform. The problem Nintendo have is that most games released these days are cross platform ports of the same ideas. Games companies just won't be willing to risk massive budgets on original games for a marginal handheld console. I would like it to e a success, I just don't think it will be. |
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It's not from nintendo trust me,you think they would leak out a photo just for some website,hours before unveiling a product that will determine if they sink or swim?Miyamoto never said it will be more "impressive",he said the PSP will have excellent graphics.The thing is,with handhelds,better graphics and more power have never determined success in the past.The gamegear,the atari Lynx,the wonderswan and neogeo pocket were all more powerfull and capable than the Gameboy but did any of them beat it?And look at the Ngage-it's pathetic sales are a prime example of folk demanding easy functionality and playabilty over better graphics.I have no idea and I don't think anyone does know how well the DS will do but in any case we'l be getting something unique even if it does fall on it's arse. |
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i bought a nintendo 64 2 weeks ago, ive been waiting 8 years to get it and it didnt disappoint! wow super mario 64 is great, ive been playing every day since i bought it and i already have 62 stars! |
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I don't think that's real. And I think this is a really lame move by Nintendo. The Playstation Pocket will probably steamroll it... it's Sony, and it's got way more horsepower. The two-screen thing is... iffy... BUT, I think they may be on to something with the touch screen! It's too convoluted, though. They say it's not going to ''compete directly with the GBA'', and it ''ISN'T GBA 2''... I don't know WHAT the fuck they're trying to accomplish here. I'm keeping a close eye on the E3 happenings, including the DS... I have IGN Insider and they're updating the site with videos every 2 minutes with all the latest. The Halo 2 videos... blew my mind. |
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I want one I wonder how much it'll cost. I hope they price it like they did the GC cause that was cheap as chips considering |
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Emily Booth? |
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Is your av from Blair Witch 2? |
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Oh... Hello Emma.. fancy meeting you in a thread like this! ;) |
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hello "SAUL" I've been waiting for you (6) |
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Here's the DS logo. Nobody knows for sure what the thing itself looks like yet, but it CAN'T be the one in USA Today. The thing doesn't even have a control stick or anything analog. Later this evening, it'll probably be making the rounds. |
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6 buttons are a must though |
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If you doubt wether it's real or not, it's on the official nintendo site so I guess that makes it quite real. Before I saw this I wasn't overly excited by the idea of two screens but this here looks quite yummy. I think the touchscreen is a great move, that could cause some innovative games to be able to appear only on the DS. |
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“When Nintendo came down and presented the DS platform to us, … I think everyone was in shock. It was amazing. … Our technical and central technology guys were kind of drooling at the abilities and wanting so much to program and dive into programming for the system. … Nintendo DS, I believe, is a revolution in change for hand-held gaming.” – Will Kassoy, vice president, global brand management, Activision “I believe that Square Enix has a promising chance in the platform, since Nintendo DS allows users to experience whole new game play with both its input system and its output system.” – Yoichi Wada, president and representative director, Square Enix “The Nintendo dual screen is something that we’re really excited about developing for. It’s very innovative, which is classic Nintendo.” – Nick Earl, vice president and general manager, Electronic Arts “The fact that touch panels can be associated with many terms about touching that we never had, such as touch, push, feel, rub, slide and pat is wonderful. … I have been working in this industry for 20 years. During that time I made many games. But I think this is the first time that we have a new input device.” – Yuji Naka, senior corporate officer, development division, Sega “Once again Nintendo is taking another leap in the gaming experience for the gamer by providing totally new game-play experiences, developing new gaming habits. Very characteristic of a Nintendo maneuver.” – Jay Cohen, vice president, publishing, Ubisoft |
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I think Nintendo are going down a dead-end road here. It hurts me to say it but I feel it's true. |
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Yeah okay, so it has a touch screen, yawn, what else is new...the Design still loks fucking awful |
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This thing is awesome! |
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Yeah, I just saw the DS preview on Gamespy... I was hoping that WASN'T it... I can't imagine controlling Mario 64 with that. What's with the directional pad? But they also said it could undergo some aesthetic changes in the next little while. I'm not crazy about this console, and probably won't buy it, but there will definitely be games that will make brilliant use of that touch screen. |
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NO, its just a rehashed N64 ! The Sony PSP will BLOW IT AWAY....weee |
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It's plasticy, it's silver, it's ugly. People are shallow about these things. A good example is the X-Box. This will be the end of them if they don't sort it out. The idea is brilliant but maybe too complicated? |
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Yeah, it's an eyesore. The PSP is supposed to be Dreamcast quality, DS is N64. But it's still too close to call. Sony might have a tough time muscling their way into the handheld market, or their name recognition and powerful processor might spell trouble for Nintendo. Tough to call right now. I'll be picking up ONE of them. The first PSP movies from a while back looked damn impressive. |
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Just read the specs man! Touchscreen, dual LCD screens ( Game play also could use both screens at once, offering a giant boss for heroes to defeat ), PDA capabilities, backwards compatible, built in microphone for voice recognition, 3D surpassing that of the N64, dual slots to hold whatever they can think of in the future.... What's so complicated about 2 screens? It actually gives more space to deepen gameplay without having to interrupt it. Back in the old school days I always had a weak spot for the dual screen game&watch games. I owned "rain shower" and "donkey kong" |
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Maybe I was wrong saying too complicated, but I know from past experience people like to keep it simple. Here are some examples: ps1 + portable screen = failure gamecube + portable screen = failure Here are some simple successes: gameboy/colour/advance Can't think of any more but please feel free to add. |
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All those features sound great, but it needs SOFTWARE. I don't really care about PDA or voice recognition, and I'm perfectly happy with pausing to go my menus, not looking at a second screen. Being backwards compatible, THAT'S what perks my ears up the most. Sweet. I more excited now about the DS than I was, admittedly. Great possibilities. But I was also really excited about the Virtual Boy at one time, and the 3DO. That thing sounded like a veritable swiss-army-knife back in early '93! And the developers had nothing but nice things to say. I can't make a judgement now, but as soon as I see the game lineups, that's when I'll make a decision on what handheld to support, PSP or DS. Gamecube's third party support has dried up for various reasons, so I'm worried about the DS. I also don't like the fact that after PSP and DS render the GBA obselete, 2D games are going to just... stop. GBA was the last haven for it, and I'll miss the old school. |
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And trust nintendo to bring out some fancy game for this baby. I think the reason the gameboy survived for this long is not just because of the backwards compatibility which this one will have as well, but also because they keep releasing ace games for the small device (warioware anyone?). I'm also not a great fan of everything having to go 3D all of a sudden, especially on such a small screen. But think of management games, strategy games and true RPG's, they could have such great benefit from the touch screen and the dual screens that imo it doesn't matter how great a single screen display you have, you end up getting owned by it. Can't say anything about the PSP yet, it certainly looks promising as well, but Sony's games hold far less appeal to me and a problem could be that they don't already have a huge amount of people who can just plug in their old gameboy games and let rip, they have to start everything from scratch. Of course, judging by the popularity of Sony, this won't be a big problem and it's got MP3 playback and it's probably gonna be a mobile phone too so that's a plus, but then again the DS also has those possibilities. |
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Yeah, Nintendo has been putting out lots of great stuff for the GBA. But they're been pretty alone in that regard. All my favorite GBA games are first party, other than the brilliant Castlevanias. They'll have competition now, though. I'd expect the REAL Castlevanias and Final Fantasys to go the PSP because of Sony's wheeling and dealing, but that's all speculation. Sony gets the good stuff, Nintendo gets the Crystal Chronicles. And the PSP will have Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper, all the countless AAA platforming games from PS2. Handhelds are usually geared towards a younger audience, and those games HAVE to find their way on there. This is the only reason I'm worried. I have no doubt the console is going to be able to do some great things, and WILL, and Nintendo's games will ALWAYS be first rate. But that's not enough anymore, with Sony in the handheld wars. If the DS has a handful of really innovative Nintendo games, and the PSP has a steady stream of tons of prime third party games (plus Sony's amazing exclusive platforming powerhouses) like its big brother, I'll go PSP. Innovation or not. But right now, could go either way. I'm not sold on either of them, and there's probably a 50% chance I won't bother with them anyway! I've never liked handheld consoles, and I only play GBA roms. |
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Then again, the developers sound excited about the DS, so I'll have to see. Maybe they'll put their weight behind Nintendo for once. |
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Have you seen the new games for the DS? They look amazing. New Metroid - 3D, new 3D mario played on a 2D field. Mario Kart, Animal Crossing plus it has Wi-Fi and 16 player wireless connection. It blows the gay PSP away in every way. Sony is just going to use the PSP to attract people to their suck ass music store. Suck my knob Sony. Suck it. |
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I agree, gaming like that should be extemely lush+++ and makes me much more excited than anything the Sony PSP is offering so far, even though it's impressive. Another advantage for sony however will be that the mini blu-ray discs are capable of storing 1.8 Gigabyte and therefore movies will be playable on their system, not that I'd be the one who'd likes to stare at a small screen like that for 2 and a half hours but it's a nice extra. Though I don't quite see the use of having 7.1 surround sound on board? Still, somehow I keep having a gut feeling of disliking the entire Playstation format. |
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Ha! "It's not from nintendo trust me" I'm never trusting you again ;-) Well I'm excited. As far as I'm concerned this blows away the Sony PSP. I fully agreed with everything they said during the pressconference. This is something new. This opens possibilities never seen before. The PSP is just a miniature PS2. It may be technically superior... but so were Atari Lynx en Game Gear to the gameboy... look what became of them. Besides the DS... that pressconference was AMAZING! Did you guys watch it? I soo wish I was at the E3 right now. I'm a bit confused about the zelda-situation. They announced today a new zelda for gamecube with realistic graphics. But will that be next to The Windwaker2, or instead of The Windwaker2? I hope the latter... I'm really dying to play another cel-shaded zelda adventure :-s Other than that, the realistic one did look really yummy too :-) Plus there was a supershort flash of a NEW 2-dimensional Zelda-adventure for GBA. AND the Four Swords Adventures are also still coming out :-D Possibly/hopefully also something Zelda for NDS? 2004 is definitely the year of Zelda! The new Super Mario Bros game should be awesome aswell... it's been since Super Mario World that we've gotten to play a true new Mario-adventure in 2D. If miyamoto worked on it himself... it's going to be platformgaming-heaving! |
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Yeah that press conference was great. I'm most excited about mario - 4 player on the DS. (I heard the "DS" name as well as its appearance may change by the time it's officially released.) So much Zelda! That video looks great. Go to gametrailers.com to see a nice version. I agree the PSP offers nothing new to the haldheld market. If I want to play PS2 games I'll play them at home instead of buying another $300 portable system. Also I wonder how many PSPs will break within the first year, not to mention how bad that screen will be scratched without a cover. |
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hehe,ok,ok,ok!I totally admit I was wrong,it's really just that when I saw that pic,I didn't want to believe that was it and therefore convinced myself it wasn't.(I guess I was expecting them to deliever the moon to my door)But I will say that after my heart sank after seeing the design Nintendo unveiled,reading about the Hands on tests and seeing the games has lessened the blow-considerably,Metroid prime-hunter looks incredible and the games announced and future possibilities have got me really excited.I also agree about the PSP.Ok it looks sexy but why am I totally underwhelmed by it,it's a Ps2 in minature with some add on's like you said.The DS approach feels fresh and I'm far more likely to take interest in something original.That new zelda trailer looks fucking amazing too. :> |
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Thanks! That was a really great version indeed :-) The music gave me goosebumps! I love that shot of the huge army approaching on the horizon... looks like it's going to be a very dark Zelda. It looked like a warzone.... I'm guessing Ganon did more than kidnap a princess this time :-) I think we're in agreement about the whole NDS/PSP thing :-p I can't wait to hear more about the DS in the coming days! They're supposed to be able to communicate with each other over a 100 feet! Imagine that. You could play against someone sitting in another room :-p Or hook it up to the internet and play against anyone in the entire world. It's about time... some nintendo-games (mario kart, animal crossing) were MADE to go online. And now it's finally going to happen :-D 3rd pary Nintendo DS games coming out: Activision: Spiderman 2 Atari: Project TBA Bandai: One Piece, other games TBA Banpresto: Dragon Ball Z Capcom: Megaman Battle Network, Viewtiful Joe DS, Gyakuten Saiban Electronic Arts: Need for Speed From Software Project TBA Hudson: Bomberman, other projects TBA Koei: Dynasty Warriors Konami: Frogger 2005, Yu-Gi-Oh: Nightmare Troubadour Majesco: Project TBA Namco: Mr. Driller, TBA RPG Sega: Project Rub Square Enix: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Egg Monster Hero, Dragon Quest Monsters Tecmo: Monster Rancher THQ: Spongebob Squarepants Ubisoft: Rayman Vivendi: Project TBA |
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Mr Driller would be sick! Yeah Nintendo really needs online multiplayer games, plus it's FREE! Imagine playing 16 people in Mario Kart over the internet, it would be out of control. |
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Nintendo has made a mistake or two in the past, and i am skeptical about the DS. However, one world were Nintendo has always dominated has been the handheld market. People seem to forget that the Game Boy (including GB, GBC and GBA) is the best-selling game system of all time. While Nintendo is slipping in the console market, partly due to their failure to jump on the console online gaming phenomenon, they still have an insane strangehold on the handheld market. If you ever look at Japanese best-seller charts, there's always at least 3 GBA games in there. I have faith that Nintendo will at least give PSP a run for its money. The Dual Screen thing is a good idea though. I'd love to play a Castlevania on GBA without having to stop the action for menu screens. Hell, you could even have larger stage displays. The possibilities for it are endless. |
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I'm leaning towards PSP, because of the specs. Screen resolution PSP- 480x272 (16:9 widescreen) DS- 256 x 192 (main) Processor PSP- 333Mhz (yikes! Insane) DS- 67mhz Main memory PSP- 32 DS- 4 etc. Call me shallow, I guess. The DS has some awesome ideas, but polygon pushing, higher resolution, particle effects, huge environments (Ratchet and Clank could run on a PSP but not a DS) and especially FRAMERATE are things I would NOT trade for speech recognition or easy map management. The difference between a slightly stronger N64 and a slightly weaker PS2 is very signifigant, gameplay-wise as well as... sexy-wise. The Gran Turismo PSP gameplay footage from the press conference is spectacular. On that huge screen, it's going to look like heaven. That Skeleton game looked phenomenal for a first generation game, too. The Syphon Filter game looked PS1, though. I'm not sure the casual gamer will realize this or care about specs or anything, though. So I think this fight is really up in the air. The game I'm looking forward to on the DS the most is the Metroid game. That would be a great game to play during bathroom excursions. I'd be there for hours. I've typed a lot of words in this topic for somebody that probably won't buy either of them anyway, based on their game lineups now. ;-) Until I see a BRAND NEW Castlevania or Metal Gear Solid, I might not even bother. |
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And the DS is NOT the GBA2, which they said they were also planning, so Nintendo might or might not have extra ammo if they go through with it, whenever they do... so I wonder what they'll do with that one. Maybe it'll have the power of mini-Xbox. |
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Oh shit. Metal Gear WAS in the PSP preview vid. I missed it. Yeah, I think I'll need to find a way to get both of these. Metroid + Metal Gear= I need. |
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Here's a shot of the Metroid for DS. Nice use of the touch screen for the map. Also pretty impressive that they got something even RESEMBLING a powerhouse game like Prime to run, and it runs fairly well (videos). |
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And I can't believe how good this looks, even though it's just a grab from a short clip. So beautifully sharp. Bastards. They could have put this on the PS2, and saved me whatever money I'll need to buy a PSP. |
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I hope there is lots of cool outputs and junk on it. Like a video out would be right on |
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yeah it should have like a S-VIDEO-output or something, for the people who want that. |
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