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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-08 14:06 [#01178706]
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Alright, I'm going to invest in an HDTV. I need to know some things though.
I want widescreen. I do NOT want anything monstrously large. But I'm thinking... maybe I don't have a choice? What's the smallest 16:9 HDTV you can get? 30-35 inches is good enough for me. But I'm not sure what sizes these bad boys come in.
Another thing is, I'm NOT going to be using this to watch TV. I don't watch TV. I'm only going for this for my video games. I'm tired of blurriness. I bought Rallisport Challenge 2 last night, and as amazing as it is (best racing game I've ever played), it SCREAMS to be played on an HDTV.
I made a custom Autechre soundtrack for it on the Xbox hard drive, though. Driving up the side of a mountain in a beat up red sportscar while Bine is wreckin' the speakers is fun. But I digress.
Lastly, what kind of wires am I looking at to play this shit? S-video, or what? What sort of extraneous bullshit do I need to get my games up and running? I'm not well educated on the subject, but recent events have driven me to do something drastic, and upgrade. Anybody here have experience with HDTVs, and in particular, HDTV gaming? Money isn't really much of an issue, but I don't care about size, just picture clarity. I'm NOT going to spend 3000 on some 60'' monolith.
On another messageboard I frequent, there was a topic about a 27'' HDTV for 499, but it was not widescreen. I need wide. Ideally, I'll spend 800-1000. But I think I might be underestimating the prices... eep.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-08 14:11 [#01178713]
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32" would be the perfect size I'd recommend to you. I know nothing else :$
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knobcheese
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-05-08 14:12 [#01178715]
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go to a shop and find out
but yeah should be able to use your normal av stereo cables with it, but you won't notice much change unless it's 100 hz with DNM (digital natural motion).
DNM adds frames between the frames of the signal, and thus significantly improves picture quality during fast panning.
as for the size, there shouldnt be any problem finding something around 30 inches.
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knobcheese
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-05-08 14:14 [#01178719]
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HD 100hz+ will look like yer computer screen
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knobcheese
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-05-08 14:15 [#01178720]
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DNM will look better than your comp
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-08 15:14 [#01178767]
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Okay heres the deal,
HDTV is really mostly for watching TV. If you want to watch HDTV (which you dont) but you need have: An HD TV, and a HD receiver box (which costs another $400 or something rediculious in that price range). But moving on to video games...
I have a Widescreen LCD 17" HDTV. It came with a S-video input (which is an absolute must for a tv that will be running vgames). The HDTV part really doesn't matter in your case, ophecks. As long as the system you are using has a S-video out and your tv has a S-video in, then you are ready to rock.
Dont forget to get a hold of a SVideo wire to connect everything.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-08 15:25 [#01178778]
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I went to a couple of shops, but I don't trust... shop... guys. They smell funny.
Knobcheese/Weatheredstoner- thanks for the info, that clears up a lot. See, that's why I love you guys, and the messageboard medium in general.
So I just have to look for S-video? I did see a few 35'' TVs with ''S-video'' on the information labels. They weren't widescreen, and didn't have ''HDTV'' specified anywhere. But there's a few more places I'm going to check.
They also said ''800 lines of resolution''. I'm confused on this point... what's the deal?
And again...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-08 15:56 [#01178796]
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Also, what do you know about progressive scan? I certainly need something with that capability.
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zero-cool
on 2004-05-08 21:36 [#01179130]
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you got an XBOX, do you have XBOX LIVE with project gotham racing 2, or counter-strike
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-09 04:02 [#01179240]
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Progressive Scan is fucking awesome and highly fucking recommended.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2004-05-09 09:03 [#01179396]
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If the tv has component inputs that should look amazing. I hooked up my Cube with component cables and the clarity of the picture was night and day. So sharp and the colors are brilliant.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-09 10:33 [#01179488]
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I know, I can't wait. There's a few Xbox titles that support 1080i, and I want to see them in action.
I hate Sunday. Everything's closed, and I want to go gear hunting.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-15 18:02 [#01190047]
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Alright, I got a big fat widescreen motherfucker. Ninja Gaiden never tasted so ridiculously good. Game of the generation. In widescreen 480p progressive scan mode, the game can turn your skull to a fine grey powder and your eyes to a salty jelly-like translucent substance . Coming soon- big fat sound system.
Also, I'm playing Transformers for PS2, and it is the bomb times 30. Buy this game. The first level is the amazon, and I think they got every fucking square inch of it onto this DVD because the levels are gigantic.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-05-15 18:08 [#01190056]
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whoa that looks fucking ace! my tv is shite, but i get by, i really cant afford a good one.
how much was that one? im too lazy to read through the thread to see if theres an answer.
yeah totally, good speakers all over the fucking room! DOOM III will be like... OMG!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-15 18:13 [#01190063]
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How much did the TV set you back? (english £ if possible)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-15 18:48 [#01190091]
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Too much. :_-(
Just for you, I used the Universal Currency Counter. It was 1700 Canadian, which equals... 697.734 GBP. I think. That doesn't sound right to me. You guys are warped.
1700 sounds like an awful lot, AND IT IS, but for Canada, this was a pretty good buy.
EPILOGUE Oh my God. I hooked up the ol' PS1, and the pixels are as big as my fist. I think I'll keep the 20 incher around, so I don't make my eyes barf.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-15 19:03 [#01190101]
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What ratio is the widescreen? It doesn't look 16:9. Also what screen size, make etc.?
You couldn't pick one of them up hear for any where near £700.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-16 19:40 [#01191191]
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It's 16:9, but I guess that's a strange angle I captured it at. It's a 43'' LG (Canadian company).
Generally, I'm very happy with it. People warned me about the dangers of playing PS2 games on it, and I now know why. The shimmering and aliasing are an eyesore, and most PS2 games don't even support 480p. They still look great, especially color wise, though artifacts from that old hardware is inevitable. I'll get used to it. Xbox looks incredible on it not matter what you're playing. Gamecube, can't say. The only way to get Nintendo's component cables is right from them directly. Pricks.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-16 19:43 [#01191194]
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wow thats nice AND I must say a very good price.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-16 19:45 [#01191197]
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The price is amazing. LG is a massive Korean based company so I dunno where you get Canadian from :P
43" is a fucking monster :D
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2004-05-16 19:46 [#01191199]
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NINJA GAIDEN MOTHERFUCKER! NINJA GAIDEN!!!
Sorry...I'll STFU now.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-16 19:52 [#01191201]
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Haha, seriously? Well, I thought they were Canadian because-
A- I'd never heard of them before I bought this (could be the rock I love under!)
B- the website on the box is www.LG.ca. I should really factor in DISTRIBUTION to the equation, sometimes.
That 1700 included an employee discount (stepfather's nephew), plus no tax. It was on display for $1999. If you haggle with them, or pay cash, they'll always cut a couple hundred from it anyway. Unfortunately, HDTV's aren't THAT low in price yet. And this was one of the cheaper ones there.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-16 19:56 [#01191204]
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Still a good price.
LG are one of something stupid like the top 3 biggest electronic companies in the world. They are a multi trillion dollar business. Although they do make a lot of generic rebranded items as well as their own LG branded stuff. They used to be called Goldstar a few years ago.
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