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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-04 09:27 [#01172610]
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Shouldn't you review other people's music?
I've noticed that a lot of people spam their music but never seem to review other peoples music. Isn't that a bit rude? It's the same people all the time reviewing peoples music and they spam their music the least!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-04 09:29 [#01172612]
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I've not mentioned names for a reason....
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-04 09:32 [#01172616]
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Seems fair enough.
I don't do either but I do intend to bust some spam everyone's way in future.
I would review other people's stuff, but the thing is (and I'm sure some other people are in a similar situation) I use xlt at work ('work'!), where I don't have audio capabilities.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-04 09:37 [#01172617]
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I rarely listen to music made by members.... though I have listened to all the vibes compilations and I am impressed by the quality
I never spam my music as I am not a music maker
I only spam my pink cap
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-04 09:37 [#01172618]
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Yep. Whilst it's a bit juvenile to post something like, "I'll listen to this, but only if you check out my tunes (URL) first!"
On the other hand, people who never comment on anyone else's stuff and yet bump their own music threads dozens of times (and even get shitty at people for not listening) are worse IMO. Sure, if your stuff is earth shatteringly good (or at least "proper electronic label quality", as some people heres is...) people will listen anyway, but if your stuff is mediocre (which a lot is) or poor, most people certainly won't DL more than a couple of tracks.
Just like I have a mental list of artists whose stuff I almost always DL (even a couple who have not once commented on my stuff) if I can afford the time, I also have an equivalent "don't bother" list... the people on this latter list are the ones who make mediocre music and never bother to comment on anyone else's stuff.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-04 09:43 [#01172625]
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JAzembo always seems to comment on peoples music and he has clearly listened to their music YET i've never seen him spam a track.
Ceri: BAM!
VLetr: That makes sense.
nacmat: That doesn't matter. You're not spamming your music trying to get people to listen without doing the common courtesy of listening to theirs too :)
The Vibes are marvellous :D
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2004-05-04 10:21 [#01172699]
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i try to listen to alot of people's music but the threads on this board move to goddamn fast. i have a full time job, marginal social activity, and run a website for xlt artists in my spare time, so i probably only ever actually see 10% of the "new track" threads.
so people, if it seems like i'm ignoring you, i most likely never saw your thread. or i did and i'm ignoring you.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-05-04 10:29 [#01172714]
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i try quite a bit to listen to other people's music. in fact, whenever someone new hears my stuff, i'll kindly take a listen to theirs. i only wish i could do it more often, but i'm on a phone connection, so that sort of limits the amount of reviews i can give.
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-04 10:30 [#01172719]
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get dsl dude, modem's too expensive
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-05-04 10:37 [#01172733]
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i will once i have a cash flow that allows it.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 11:27 [#01172814]
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It's like listening to some one because you enjoy it and not just waiting for your turn to talk.
I try to listen to as many people's music as possible. I am a 56k though so it can be hard. I respect those who comment when I become Spammy Mc Spamster. It's very satisfying to see people listening because they want to and not just waiting for the favour to be returned. But without "giving a little and getting a little" then not as many would listen as it works both ways.
I would like to take this opportunity to listen to any new tracks to show the love.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 11:29 [#01172818]
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btw.: - new song i made .... goodbye_charly
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 11:31 [#01172821]
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downloading now, it will take bout 20 mins
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-05-04 11:36 [#01172828]
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i agree
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 11:37 [#01172830]
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haha thx mate :D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 11:41 [#01172844]
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I sporadically download tracks and review them.
I sporadically upload tracks to have them reviewed.
if I download something, I always try to say something about it. (unless I completely forget, ofcourse. :P)
I try to brutally honest - depends ofcourse how well I know the person how I word it.
when I upload something myself, I don't try to bump it too much. if just a few people listen and comment, I'm generally quite thankful. and happy! happy! joy! joy!
there are a few people's tracks I will always download and comment on, ofcourse.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 11:43 [#01172847]
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I do think the (as Ceri puts it) "I'll listen to this, but only if you check out my tunes (URL) first!"-thing is ASS and will never do that to anyone.
I feel people should want to listen to my music because they want to, not because of some trade-off, that will mostly only result in a comment like "yeh, different" anyway.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 11:56 [#01172874]
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I am now listening to goodbye_charly
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 12:04 [#01172886]
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SADIST: I found goodbye_charly extremely enjoyable. This is exactly my cup of tea in every way down to the last grain of sugar. I will be listening to this quite a bit I imagine.
The track itself creates a very good feeling and all the melodies and chords compliment themselves to the best of their ability. I think all should listen to this as it's a brilliant piece of work. You must inform me of your future releases!!! You have made a new follower on this day.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 12:13 [#01172897]
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bah you're kidding mate !! it's not THAT good...
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 12:20 [#01172904]
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well, I happen to love it, thank you for making it
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2004-05-04 12:21 [#01172905]
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Should there be an XLT artist releases section?
I think that way the music doesn't have to be 'spammed' and members could listen to and review each other's trax without getting in the way of MB discussions.
EM411 has a releases section as described above. I dunno, would it work for XLTronic though?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 12:24 [#01172910]
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That is such a good idea m8. I think we should fight for this. IMO I hate spamming for people to listen to my tracks, as it feels like I'm some desperate freak.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 12:34 [#01172917]
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it WILL be
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Free your mind
from Umeå (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 12:38 [#01172926]
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Here some music-spam for ya ;)
http://www.funender.com/music/Garden of Anarchy
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Free your mind
from Umeå (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 12:39 [#01172927]
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btw If someone spam their music, why do you care, you dont have to lisen to it right?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 12:42 [#01172929]
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no, but it is seen as common courtesy that when spamming music that you take some time at some point to listen to other people's music.
and there are some people who ONLY spam their music and never listen to anyone elseseses.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 12:44 [#01172931]
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and it would seem you are one of these people.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-05-04 12:51 [#01172943]
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I tend to review more music on watmm-EKT, just because there is a dedicated board for it, and the threads dont get lost. They stay there for a bit, because thats all there is... no other random threads bumping em down. Just less of a hassel.
I don't feel like I'm cheating people here. I hope people don't look at listening to music as a favor, like you owe them something. They should be listening because they want to hear peoples music. Sometimes you feel like checking out someones track, sometimes you dont. Thats why EKT is nice, because the threads linger, and you can go look for em when you feel like it.
Lately Im just not in the mood to listen to other peoples music (I don't feel guilty, because I don't think that people feel sad that I'm not commenting.) I listen to other peoples music in classes everyday, which isnt fun because its not for listening pleasure... its having to sit there and listen. Im overall kind of burntout with music right now. Im looking forward to this summer and not having to do or listen to music thats class related. Just more stuff for myself, and have time to spend on it.
Anyways, I'd be fine with people not responding to my tracks. You don't have to comment, or do in depth reviews, if you feel like its a task. If you want to, and you enjoyed it (or hated it) enough to respond, then go for it, and I truely appriciate it. But I rather people just be listening because they want to, for enjoyment.
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Free your mind
from Umeå (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 13:02 [#01172961]
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Zeus: I don't feel like I'm cheating people here. I hope people
don't look at listening to music as a favor, like you owe them something. They should be listening because they want to hear peoples music.
Yes there you got it =D
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-05-04 13:07 [#01172968]
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i'm guilty of it. but I'm working and playin guitar and going out and that. i'm hardly on here now, so dont take it personally. But i have found some corkin tracks oan here. aye
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-04 13:09 [#01172971]
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ah, but there is also a difference if you partake in other discussions on the board too. you may have slowed down a bit in that aspect, but you're still there.
I don't think you post that many tracks, anyway - which also makes a difference.
for example, Oddio used to post a lot of tracks and is still pretty frequent, but you can bet he has heard just about every track ever spammed on this board.
and I think he does it for his own fun, but also because he wants other people to listen to eachother.
if everybody just says, "look, listen if you want to" and noone ever listens to anyone else, it won't work.
I do sometimes think you should give people a listen simply to keep the ball rolling (and with "you" I mean all of the spammers, not just you, Zeus.. :P).
it's also showing interest in what other people are doing, what is happening in a community.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 13:21 [#01172999]
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I think we've covered it all.
* It is courtious to partake in the community, this involves general posting, commenting and spamming.
* Don't listen to other people's music for the sole reason of having yours listened to. You shouldn't spam if you don't intend on taking an active interest in other people's music. If we all only wanted our tracks to be listened to then nothing would get listened to!!
* Don't expect people to listen to your music, just be kind and show that you value their opinion.
* It is good to sacrifice the bandwidth especially if you are on modem, but as it's easier for people with faster internet, maybe they should take more time to download more tracks in comparison to the time it takes for a 56k.
* Finally, if you want nothing to do with it, then have nothing to do with it and bugger off.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 13:28 [#01173007]
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yeah - better listen to mine !! :D
i agree with one thing - that i more often listen to works of people who are here for a longer time... and i'm sure that they don't post any shit...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-05-04 13:34 [#01173012]
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only a handfull of people ever give me crits on my junk so i try to make an effort to listen to those peeps' shits. and lately, i've been not hyping my shits because nobody seems to care anyway. except the select few peeps.
so thanks to you select few peeps who give me crits:
kochlear oddio weathered stoner ecnadniarb mc 303 beatz xammax
some other d00ds i can't remember..
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 13:34 [#01173013]
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sadist I'm not joking, I'm obsessed with goodbye_charly. Where are some more tracks by yourself? I'm bored of all the music I have on my PC so I need some new stuff. New stuff meaning your tracks. GIVE GIVE GIVE!!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 13:49 [#01173036]
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i'll upload something and let you know here in this topic !
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 13:52 [#01173044]
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(to goodbye_charly - i like that song because of the mixed melodies... it's on one hand kinda happy and nice, on the other hand very sad and melancholic....)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 14:04 [#01173070]
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i like it cos it kicks ass
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 14:20 [#01173120]
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here you go - styretol some people say that it's my best work....
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 14:27 [#01173138]
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u put a link for goodbye_charly again
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2004-05-04 14:32 [#01173144]
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i made a new topic - there you have the corect link !!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-04 15:08 [#01173224]
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BAM!
Got it right there.
I always tried to download peoples music when I was on 56K but that just wan't always possible. Sometimes the queue would get so big I'd forget who's it was. I was also doing this before I even tried to spam my own music.
I just get pissed off seeing all this music spam from people whio don't even listen to other peoples.
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staplemouth
on 2004-05-04 17:43 [#01173419]
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I try to review everyone's stuff as much as i can because i know that it helps to get things listened to and commented on...'workshopped' in a way. And I love hearing new stuff from around the globe! Its the same thing with any other form of creative output, just to know that people have heard/seen/read/etc it can help, and any comments or suggestions can be used to better the peice, and any praise can be relieving and also give you insight to what works well.
anyway, i should be posting some tracks up soon so ^___^
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-04 18:04 [#01173444]
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just do it if you want to
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big
from lsg on 2004-05-04 18:06 [#01173452]
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quite enjoyeble
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-04 18:06 [#01173453]
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It works both ways tho, I've posted comments on many artists tracks on the msg board & have only spammed maybe 3 tracks at the most. It's really nice to get loads of feedback on your latest masterpeice but you cant make people listen if they don't feel like it.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-05-04 18:09 [#01173456]
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True dat!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-05-04 19:03 [#01173498]
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yessir! still enjoying cooperation corporation! :)
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