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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-03 04:19 [#01170739]
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This movie is wondeful imo, anyway I'd like to know if you liked more Vol. I or Vol. II.
Two great faces of same medal, anyway...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 04:21 [#01170742]
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im sorry to report i didn't really like the 1st part...haven't seen the 2nd one yet.
so i say 1-0 in favour of kill bill vol.1
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-03 04:25 [#01170747]
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I saw the 2nd part before the 1st, and the 2nd part is awesome! The first part was cool to, but I would like to see the complete movie and not the cut version that was shown in the theatres.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-03 04:25 [#01170748]
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is it "in style" not to like this film nowadays? it's like "post coolness," because most of the people I've talked to doesn't like the film because they claim it hides behind tarantinos name, while they fail to realise that IT ISN'T A SERIOUS FILM! IT'S A PARODY/TRIBUTE/COMEDY!!!
I'm not necessarily saying YOU do, but I KNOW some of the people I talk to doesn't like it because it's "cool" to not like quentin-films after reservoir dogs...
I loved it, and am looking forward to seeing #2 (no money!!!)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 04:28 [#01170751]
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hmm, i watched it at home, so i don't know if it was the short version...i kind of doubt i'd get any better if it was 30 minutes longer or shorter tho...
mastah...yeah, im stylish.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-03 04:30 [#01170752]
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you're in style! You hang with the upper design-underground elite of Chicago (the "post chic, post cool city")
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 04:32 [#01170755]
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actually i have never been to chicago...but yeah, sounds about right!
what?
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pf
from Finland on 2004-05-03 04:42 [#01170766]
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I liked Vol.2 more, but i allso loved Vol.1
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-03 06:23 [#01170862]
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I went to see Vol.2 last night and my hopes for the movie were destroyed. It didn't flow at all, there was way too much dialogue and too many shifty ideas with the camera work. I have yet to see Vol.1 but my mate says it's better than Vol.2. All in all though I was very dissapointed. The only good thing I have to say about Vol.2 is the kung-fu master pai mei was pretty funny.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-03 06:46 [#01170879]
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for me it's difficult to say if i prefer vol.I or vol.II both are excellents movies, maybe I prefered vol.I for the originality, but vol.II is great too.
I like long dialogues in Tarantino movie but I like everything in his movies.
and what about the beautiful shoes dressed by Uma Thurman in Vol.I? It's a limited edition by ASICS ONITSUMO TIGER, here below you can view actual price on ebay...
Onitsumo Tiger
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-03 06:48 [#01170880]
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ohpsss... sorry ONITSUKA TIGER
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 07:07 [#01170888]
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we must have seen different movies...there wasn't much dialogue in one i saw :)
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-03 07:55 [#01170940]
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apples and oranges, but i'd say i probably liked volume 2 more.
1 was very stylish and flashy, but two was classic tarantino, and executed very well.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-03 08:02 [#01170943]
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quite similarly there is quite a large group that LOVE those films because of Tarantinos supposed coolness.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-03 08:03 [#01170944]
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I haven't seen either btw, so personally I have no idea.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 08:04 [#01170945]
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nah???
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-03 08:04 [#01170946]
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nah?
as in: no?
..what?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 08:05 [#01170947]
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as in you don't know how cool tarantino really is!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-03 08:08 [#01170948]
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I really have no idea.
I have no idea what is cool anymore.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 08:09 [#01170949]
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hmm, good idea for a thread there...
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-03 08:12 [#01170952]
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I didn't like it
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-03 08:13 [#01170954]
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why does everybody like Vol.2 so much? I try to make things simple by asking myself after a movie, "Did I enjoy that?". My answer in this case was no.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-03 08:16 [#01170960]
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from what I have read, I would expect I would like part 2 more, because it's supposedly heavier on Tarantino-dialogue, which can be his stronger point, I think.
could still be shit, ofcourse. :D
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 08:19 [#01170965]
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there's more dialogue in a 30 sec commercial about tooth brush than there is in the kill bill vol.1
so 2nd part could hardly have any less...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-03 08:20 [#01170967]
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yes?
your point being?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-03 08:21 [#01170968]
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how about silences interupted by dialogue to make it feel like there is loads of dialogue?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 08:24 [#01170973]
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well, if there wouldn't be any music or sound effects it would be a very silent movie...
im thinking that he had a lucky hand picking actors like he did for pulp fiction and reservoir dogs...probably they improvised a lot, and that made tarantino look good...maybe.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-03 08:26 [#01170974]
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dogs and pulp worked, this didn't
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 08:26 [#01170978]
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we agree then :)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-03 08:27 [#01170979]
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good good, glad we got that sorted :)
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-03 08:32 [#01170984]
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Uma Thurman and Lucy Liu are the pinnacle of anti-camp
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-05-03 08:33 [#01170986]
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2 was more plot driven than 1, whereas 1 was more of a nod to all the films that influenced tarantino. which made for a entertaining, stylized film for sure, but imo volume two was a more polished film. and, like qrter so aptly supposed, quentin stuck with what he does best in volume two, and he did it very well. but, pai mei's scene was stylized enough to provide continuity from vol. 1.
and the meeting with bill wasn't anything like most people expected, but i think that's what made it so refreshing.
really, this whole question is kinda moot since it should be considered one film. but, basically, if you don't like film making simply for the art of film making and/or tarantino's work specifically, chances are pretty strong you won't like kill bill.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-03 08:46 [#01171012]
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long dialogues was refered to vol. II, you misunderstood me ;)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 08:48 [#01171013]
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i see...im going to watch that vol.2 and see what happens :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-03 09:11 [#01171038]
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Vol.II is great too, much less action and blood anyway there is some splatter there too.
I liked Carradine and Madsen was superlative too.
Vol.II is more "pulp" than Vol.I imo.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-03 09:14 [#01171042]
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btw: Tolstoyed, are you ready to see Plaid 15 of May in Ljubljana (Festival Pomladi)?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-03 09:25 [#01171061]
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im not a big plaid fan actually...maybe i'll go, i haven't decided yet tho :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-03 09:47 [#01171079]
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nooooo... you can't lose Plaid there...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-11 06:23 [#01181940]
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so... at the end who won? vol.1 or vol.2? i haven't time to count all votes... :-/
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-11 06:30 [#01181947]
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Number II!
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