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i've just been looking at some of the screenshots from the alpha version...for those who don't understand what the difference between an alpha version and a beta version is, read this: A very early version of a software product that may not contain all of the features that are planned for the final version. Typically, software goes through two stages of testing before it is considered finished. The first stage, called alpha testing, is often performed only by users within the organization developing the software. The second stage, called beta testing , generally involves a limited number of external users. anways, back to my point. i am SO looking forward to playing this game. After seeing these screenshots, the offical screenshots and the official trailer, I am really excited about this in fact I don't know which i'm more excited about... getting my powerbook soon, or actually being able to play this game it's been a long time coming |
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the time is nigh |
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i know.........i can feel it in my bones i'm gonna lose a LOT of sleep when i get this |
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i spend 2 straight months playing final doom |
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i have the id Anthology basically, this is quite rare!!! :) |
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i was a huge fan of wolfenstein at the time of its release i even got my aunt into it, she would scream everytime she heard the bosses footsteps drawing closer |
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that's funny. a thread about these screenshots, but no link or screenshot to be seen. I'm looking forward to Half Life 2 much, MUCH more! |
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heheh i fondly remember playing Wolfenstein 3D at my dad's house unfortunately I got into these kind of games quite late....you see, while i was living with my mom we didn't have enough money for computers or stuff like that - we had an Atari 2600.....that was it. When I moved to my dad's in 1996 i was first introduced to Wolfenstein 3D on my dad's 386....and then Heretic, Duke Nukem 3D, and then DOOM even though technically Duke3D is better, DOOM will always be my favorite! i wasted my school years playing first person shooters, and i'm not gonna give up wasting the rest of my life playing them!! |
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well i think this is highly illegal, but since this page came up on google search, i guess it's obviously not THAT bad and by illegal i mean they shouldn't even be posted on the net.... id Software apparently made a HUGE deal about these screenshots and the leaked alpha |
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i used to be quite a well known duke nukem level editor |
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Dunno, when the first shots came out I was like "wow!" And now I'm more like "is that it?" The problem with these games (DOOM3, HL2) is that they got their material out to the press so friggin' early that everybody's become quite used to 'em and worse, they're taking so long to bring out that other games simply get away with their technical novelties (the ragdoll stuff, the awesome and now standard gravitystuff,the bumpmappingstuff special lighting fx etc.) One of the original Half-Life's better points was the awesome A.I. and I hope the next instalment will focus heavily on that as well, I'm just hoping that the delays mean longer game and more technical advancements cos I hate great games that are so short they're finished in one evening like Call of Duty and Max Payne 2. On a similar note I played the demo from Far Cry, and I must say that I was fairly underwhelmed by the A.I. that got so raved about. I mean, when they got alerted they started running back and forth like mental patients, when I was sniping one he was looking at me from behind a rock, but since he was looking at me he wouldn't need even half a brain to figure out he was a target but he just stood there. And at other times I was hiding in the brushes and some git fires rockets from a boat but as he's only been alarmed by a presence he wouldn't know where to shoot cos he cant see me right? Wrong he fired deadeye on my left eyelid with those babies whereever I went. I wouldn't call that great A.I. |
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now from what i see, it looks like a bunch of lab levels and possibly some city levels. but lets be honest, it isnt DOOM unless at some point you venture straight into hell with dimlit caverns and huge beasts with impaled bodies |
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Farcry is incredible. Great sleeper for me (holding out for HL2 and D3). I fucking love it. Bar none, incredible. Just make sure you have the right hardware to play it. Don't play it with shitty hardware and ruin the experience ;) |
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is there ever an omega version? |
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really? that's the bomb!!!!! i never really got to use many of the user maps, because 1) at the time i didn't have a net connection 2) when i did, it wasn't fast enough 3) most of the user maps and TC's (as i understand it) required the Atomic Edition or the Plutonium Pak and I only had the standard version :( 4) Now I have a Mac, and I'm not too sure about TC's and compatibility 5) Soon I'll be getting a Powerbook that isn't capable of booting into OS 9.22 and there is now version of Duke3D for Mac OS X yet |
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tha page canno't be found...damn,i was looking ffwd to see the screenshotz. |
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I've seen a lot of these screenshots in a gaming programme here on Dutch television. they shot it at some gameconference a year back. |
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my levels 'Stranded' and 'Hybrids X' were epic. they held the number 1 ranking among the user maps sites for ages. i make them so huge that it could very well take two hours to beat. |
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>gwely mernans from what i've read, we do get to go to hell don't forget this is an alpha....only 3 maps were completed by this point >elusive well the Powerbook i'm getting should be more than capable of running DOOM3 1.5GHz G4 1GB DDR RAM 128MB ATI Radeon 9700 graphics |
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you mean make sure you spend about $3000 on a machine to run it proper? Want to, but can't spend the money on that right now :( The jungle in Far Cry is the best I've ever seen in a game so far. Apparently it has a special optimizations patch for the upcoming geforce 6800 ultra cards to make it look even more lush 'n incredible. |
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thats exactly what i wanted to hear :) |
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jesus now they're what you call Levels!!!!!! these Duke3D ones yeah? with multiple levels (as in staircases and multiple floors and stuff)? |
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more than capable? no... Decently capable? ...yes, perhaps. |
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9700 isn't going to be Near the hardware really ::wanted:: for this game. Venturing that ... well.... now that I think about it; how optimized it will be for the Macs. Either way...it will be nice. By the way, those alpha leak pics are from...well...long long ago. There is no real point in looking at them. Low res textures...unfinished art, unfinished maps, unfinished characters... There's more to come. |
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when i heard that we get to go to hell in DOOM3 i was gobsmacked i mean, it's gonna be great to see all that red and blue textured stuff on todays engine |
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yeah. well i really hated those user maps that were lets say a cavern level, or a lab level, or a building level. i combined them all. sort of like ninja gaiden for xbox, i would include caverns, hidden cities, secret underground labs that were a bitch to find. some of my elevators took 2 minutes to reach the bottom at a fast speed, just to add the the feeling of "holy shit this is deep!" |
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well according to what i've read it should be capable of running it (the graphics card anyways) anyways, just as long as i get to play it, i don't care i think its safe to say that it'll be fairly decently optimized for Macs.......i read one of the major guys at id (can't remember if it was John Carmack, Tim Willits, or Todd Hollenshead) said that Mac OS X is the best developing system they've used i can't remember where i read it either, but of course people are gonna reckon i'm making it up but anyways, this isn't about macs, it's about DOOM3 and exactly - these ARE old screenies there's been like a year or two since these were leaked |
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im getting it for xbox |
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which sort of sucks, we all know that DOOM was meant for the keyboard |
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heheh once someone has done a decent port of Duke3D over to Mac OS X i'll have to have a lookk for some of your work what name did you publish under, and is it still available online? maybe at dukeworld or something? |
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! you can't play a FPS with a joypad!!! |
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damn dukeworld.com doesn't exist anymore that was a damn good site :( |
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Co-Op will be avail for xbox, which is sad for me :'( And just because it's easier to /dev/ on Mac, doesn't mean the hardware is fully optimized.....drivers, anyone? |
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im afraid its all bad links now, far too old skool. but i have them all in a pile of floppys hiding somewhere in my room |
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well since the fact that Apple make sure that the hardware that goes into every machine works with the OS there isn't gonna be a problem with drivers as long as the card works with the OS, then the game will support it. same as with audio devices like External Audio Interfaces - if OS X can see it and use it, Cubase, Logic, Reason, whatever else you use will also see it |
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heheh floppies i actually bought a usb floppy drive for my mac so i could install MS-DOS 6.22 |
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Yep ,I saw it on a presentation vid by Carmack, he was ranting away about it being optimized for the Mac. Don't understand that really as they've got a much wider audience in PC's, where the franchise originated and should have been developed for first and foremost and later ported to other systems. Anybody still wonder about Duke Nukem If Ever? |
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My comment wasn't about drivers working/not working, but simply optimized for hardware and instruction set. |
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yeah i remember, it was the very first E3 promo back in 2000 i know what you mean, but the fact is that Macs are becoming more prominent and a lot more home users are using them. hehe like the usage of the word IF |
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oh, well in that case there's no diffference a graphics card will run the same on whatever platform it's being used on, because it's the GPU that does the work, not the CPU |
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ill have to get a brand new computer to run everquest 2 when thats due out |
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i played that alpha version of D3 about a year ago and it was pretty scary. IDDQD didn't work, though. |
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a graphics card will run the same on whatever platform it's being used on, because it's the GPU that does the work, not the CPU ....No You forget. The operating system controls prioritizations of the hardware buffers, also memory allocations, also drivers (which are often most important); Not to mention, the CPU still handles all of the shader sillouttes that get pushed to the GPU for vertex/geo processing and rendering stages. I'm not trying to argue against Macs; Boy, do I find disgust in such debates. Just merely stateing. |
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There is also still lots of memory bandwidth allocations and such that may be +/- in different computer architectures (pc vs mac) ... risc and x86 etc....depending on the bus. |
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Wow, I thought Doom3 and HL2 would be out for a while by now, (there goes any chance of hiding the fact that I'm a console gamer). It's a shame to see not only nintendo fans being put though exhausting waiting times for their games to be released. (most of the times though, it's generally worth the wait) |
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HL2 was supposed to be out for a while by now, but a large chunk of code got stolen from Valve, thereby halting the whole progress. |
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Oh so you went and ordered that powerbook. Nice move |
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I don't really care when Doom 3 or HL2 get released anymore. I'm just worried whether or not they'll run on my PC. |
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Qrtr, Th e theft of the code has really nothing to do with the delay of the game. As it was _proven_ in the code, the game was no where NEAR completed, and even the E3 demo they showed that was supposed to be fully "unscripted". .... turned out to have scripted events. Thus, Valve was a little bit.. up shit's creek if you know what I mean. They were pushing for a sept 28th release last year. Cough....yeah fucking right. lol that game was no where NEAR completed.. |
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's true what you say about shaders. One of my lecturers is trying to find a way of get surface sub-division shaders processing off the CPU and onto the gfx card (it'd make a huge leap in how smooth curves are in 3d). |
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