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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 15:38 [#01163234]
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I am going digital camera shopping this evening (I will also buy Hitman: Contracts if I find the Xbox version, but that's another story).
Seeing as I'm not a pro photographer, and I expect to only be taking pictures of my cat, my buttocks, and stupid things, I don't need anything particularly fancy. I'm willing to spend 200-250. What should look for at that price, any particular make/model, any particular specs? Resolution, megapixels, whatever? Someone else mentioned that the Canon A70 is a good buy, I'm leaning towards that one at the moment.
What kind of camera do you have? Yes, you!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-27 15:39 [#01163236]
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i got my sony dsc v1 a week ago...im very happy with it at the moment.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-27 15:43 [#01163245]
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btw i paid 250 EUR/USD less in austria, than i would pay for it in our shops...that's a good deal :)
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-V-
from Ensenada Drive on 2004-04-27 15:47 [#01163253]
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I have an ePhoto CL18 - it takes photos up to a whopping resolution of 640x480! The photos are usually so detailed that you can almost make out what you took a picture of. It holds up to 16 photos, and I can't even imagine wanting to hold more than that. It has no nasty viewer screen thing to drain the batteries and will run completely off of the USB cable with no batteries at all in it! I recommend this camera, giving it 5 stars (*****) since I'm not allowed to give it any more. I don't regret my purchase for a moment!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 15:56 [#01163264]
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Ooohh, that's nice one. I'm not willing to spend that much on it, though. I'll trade you 6000 points for it.
-V- is a Bitter Betty.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-27 15:57 [#01163267]
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He he, I've got one like that too somewhere. The tagline should be- "640*480 great for mobile phone backdrops, useless for everything else."
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-27 16:00 [#01163270]
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heh, i have more points that i'd like to have as it is :)
anyway, check the prices for that sony in your shops, it might be cheaper than it was here...
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staplemouth
on 2004-04-27 18:00 [#01163445]
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Pretty much anything that has 'Fuji FinePix *' on it is a very good camera. I have one of last years models and the colours and detail are amazing, and it is only 2.1effective megapixels. The newer ones are higher however. But yeah, the Fuji FinePix series will make you happy, and last years models are cheap and really really good still. And get something higher than 2 megapixel.
And as for hitman contracts, there are only 4 new levels, and the rest are remakes of hitman 2, so, i dunno how much it costs now but it may/may not be worth it. Give Manhunt a look too, its the newish game by Rockstar North, pretty damn good.
hope that helped somewhat :)
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-04-27 18:22 [#01163457]
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ive got a Canon Powershot A300 - and i love it. great resolution (not astounding, but 3.2mp) and some great features.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-04-27 18:33 [#01163473]
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SONY cyber shot 2.0 mega pixels. i love her.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2004-04-27 18:35 [#01163476]
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I have a Fuji Finepix something, it's okay. I'm disappointed with the flash sometimes, though. It gives anything that has eyes red-eye and if you're taking a picture in a dark room (such as pictures of bands who are performing), they sometimes come out grainy. Also, it makes everyone's skin look way worse than it actually is. But it's still not awful, and I didn't pay a ton for it (less than 300 bucks, almost two years ago).
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staplemouth
on 2004-04-27 18:58 [#01163518]
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yeah, im not sure about the older models, but my last years model was $999 and is really really good, and the new ones are pretty damn good too. But thats my experience anyway.
have a look here, its a list of $200-$300 digital cameras with star ratings and reviews and what not
http://www.digitalcamera-hq.com/price-200-to-300-digital-...
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staplemouth
on 2004-04-27 19:01 [#01163532]
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heres some entry level fujifilm digicams too if you are interested, most within your price range.
http://www.fujifilm.ca/DigitalGateway/Default.asp?ParentI...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 19:22 [#01163598]
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Two peas in a pod! That's what I picked up at Staples, the a300. And now I'm watching the game, documenting it forever. Ruslan Fedotenko got a roughing penalty and I'll never forget it because of my Canon Powershot.
I'm liking it, seems to be better than what I needed, at a price that was lower than expected. Satisfied.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-04-27 19:25 [#01163605]
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be sure to pick up some rechargable NiMH batteries - i got the white/limegreen duracell ones - and they are much better then regular ones
be sure to spend some time reading the manual and exploring all the colour and lighting features - otherwise your pictures will be crap depending on the lighting
you had any experience in photography?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-27 19:26 [#01163608]
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that was quick...looks nice...and so do those speakers :)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 19:35 [#01163629]
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Zero experience, but I have several landmarks and buildings and stuff around town I plan of photographing. I'm constantly on Deviantart saving architecture and scenery and whatnot, and I always wanted to do it myself. Definitely looking forward to using and abusing this camera, I have some learning to do.
Thing is definitely a battery muncher, though... gotta get rechargables as soon as possible.
Also got Hitman- Contracts. After the hockey game, I will kill so many people in cold blood (bad, dark pic, I know... the flash was reflecting off the white surface and screwing it up, I'm an amateur).
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-04-30 00:37 [#01167896]
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Canon 300D (6.3 megapixels) Canon 17-40mm f/4 L USM Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 L USM Canon 50mm f/1.8 II Canon 420EX Speedlite flash
... and some accessories that are too boring to mention here... :)
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-05-02 14:03 [#01170221]
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oh my god.
the day after i posted here suggesting you get that camera - guess what - my camera gets lost.
i fucking lost my camera at school.
...my CAMERA!!!! argh.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-05-02 14:11 [#01170233]
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'stole'... and we know who to look forr.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-05-02 14:15 [#01170235]
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ill be on the next flight to Halifax...
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-05-11 16:27 [#01183102]
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so how's the new digi treating you Ophecks?
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-06-02 18:33 [#01220306]
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YES YES YES YES YES!
i just got my digital camera replaced
i got a Canon Powershot A310 :D
and a 128mb compact flash card too :D
oh man im so happy!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-02 18:43 [#01220321]
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Treating me well, I've taken over 150,000 pictures of my cat since I've bought it.
I'm really enjoying the camera I stole from you using telekinesis.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-06-02 18:49 [#01220331]
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thats a lot of damn pictures
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-02 18:51 [#01220335]
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Well, give or take 149, 950.
PS, I contradicted myself stupidly in that last post. And how much are those big flash cards? I still have that lame 16MB one that came with the cam.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-06-02 18:54 [#01220340]
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i got a 128mb one for $60
and the model i got came with a 32mb one :D
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-06-02 21:09 [#01220389]
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i've got a very nice panasonic fz-10. takes excellent pictures.
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xf
from Australia on 2004-06-03 02:51 [#01220551]
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i have a 320x240 webcam, it's great
doesn't even need batteries!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 03:15 [#01220574]
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I've got a Casio QV-R40 and it's fucking dope. 4mp, 3x optical zoom, it can also be used as a time machine.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 13:39 [#01441647]
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casio is a pocket calculator brand. Did you not know this?
'fucking dope' ? are you taking the piss?
i bought a canon powershot s1 just now, so i rule.
<3 canon
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2005-01-01 15:40 [#01441716]
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Spend a little more and get yourself a Canon SD200. it retails for 299.
Its a phenominal camera. takes gorgeous photos, has great features, awesome battery, abd has the ability to take 1 minute 60 fps movies, or 30 fps movies. if you use a high speed SD card, you can take 30 fps movies until you run out of room on the card.
i have owned about 7 digital camera's and this s by far my favorite. its smaller than a pack of marlboro's as well.
stay away from fuji. they use XD cards.
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-01-01 16:06 [#01441734]
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what about some good software to organize and manipulate digital images with. any recommendations?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 17:40 [#01441835]
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photoshop?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-01 17:50 [#01441838]
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Best cheap digital cameras:
Canon A85 Kodak DX6490 (This camera is fucking awesome)
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Motha Fucka
from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 17:54 [#01441844]
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Buy whatever with 3.2 Megapixels and digital zoom.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 18:09 [#01441859]
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i really don't see any improvement in the a85 compared to the a80, which has a flip out lcd, yet it is more expensive.
check:
side by side
i've used the a80 for some time and really enjoyed it. the flip out lcd is fantastic imo, which is why i went for the powershot s1 (also VERY reasonably priced).
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 18:10 [#01441860]
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digital zoom is entirely useless without optical zoom, so i would not advise anyone to get a camera with just that..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-01 18:12 [#01441864]
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i never knew what's the difference between the two??
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 18:20 [#01441867]
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optical:
the lens itself zooms. you can see it move. 'real' zoom. image quality remains equal with each step.
digital:
well i have no idea how this works, but you can compare it to zooming in on images with any kind of computer software. the quality gets less with each step. Digital zooming decreases image quality.
I suppose Lee knows more about this.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-01 18:22 [#01441868]
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Optical zoom uses the lens of the camera to zoom the image which still uses the entire CCD sensor of the camera. Digital zoom essentially uses a smaller area of the sensor and then uses a software algorithm to resize the image to the size of the set resolution.
Essentially digital zoom can be acheived by taking a picture with digital zoom off and then using Photoshop to crop the image and resize it up to whatever resolution the camera is.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-01 18:24 [#01441870]
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As Jeroen said...with the higher zoom the worse picture quality because you are effectively resizing on an increasingly smaller number of pixels.
Really you should never use digital zoom if you are taking serious photographs.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-01 18:25 [#01441871]
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Yeah. Optical provides the data, Digital does the processing. You can be assured that the digital zoom will be done well, but you'd still rather have optical. Digital is a cheap way to get higher zoom though, so there's nothing wrong with a manufacturer tagging on some digital zoom to already strong optical zoom, but rather it's efficient use of money.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 18:25 [#01441872]
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digital zoom reduces the resolution to make the shot closer, like if you re cuting it on photoshop.
optical zoom is a real analog zoom, wich dont low the quality of the pic.
i hope you can understand it, os the better i could do in english :/
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 18:27 [#01441876]
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hm, i am too slow
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-01 18:30 [#01441879]
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i see..how do i know when my cam is using digital zoom though? i know about the optical since the lence moves :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-01 18:35 [#01441883]
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Most digital cameras show it either in the LCD or viewfinder when it enters into digital zoom. Another thing you normally get is a slight pause between the optical zoom finishing and the digital zoom being engaged.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-01 18:35 [#01441884]
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You can also turn digital zoom off completely on some cameras.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-01 20:47 [#01441948]
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thanks...looks like i'll have to read the manuals now :)
i'll check out these options so i can see what's the difference in reality :-)
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2005-01-01 22:45 [#01442046]
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Sony DSC W1
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