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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:37 [#01142458]
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Aside from a few shining moments, I think Chris Clark is a very average artist. I've heard many tracks on xltronic that are far superior to anything Chris Clark has done, at least what I have heard.
Thats my two pennies.
I will however give props to Chris Clark for the first track on Bury the Bones of You, and I think the album cover for that album is amazing as well.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:38 [#01142463]
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"its not what you know, its who you blow"
*i really like chris clark though
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-14 12:41 [#01142469]
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He is a lot better than Jimmy Edgar.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:42 [#01142470]
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That is Rephlex's motto, isn't it?
I will say this about Chris Clark...
He seems to cut the bullshit and gets on with what he wants to say through his music, which I admire. I just don't think its that great.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 12:42 [#01142471]
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..bury the bones of you?
you probably mean Empty the bones of you..
anyway, I've heard a lot on xltronic that kind of sounds like what Clark does, but never better.
that said, I think Clark is okay, not much more.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:42 [#01142472]
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"empty the bones of you", not "bury"
and i dont see what starting a thread like this is supposed to be.
you complaining about somethign you dont like?
congrats.
some people happen to dig him.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:42 [#01142473]
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Ooooops, Empty the Bones of You, my mistake!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 12:43 [#01142474]
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how do you reckon?
he has the tendency to do the "ironic Aphex interview"-thing, which is pretty bullshitty, imo.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:43 [#01142476]
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Hey man, I'm not hating at all, just trying to start a friendly conversation about music, thats all :)
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:44 [#01142478]
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And what is a message board that doesn't allow criticism, i mean, shit!
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-04-14 12:45 [#01142479]
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did chris clark make a track called sam?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-04-14 12:45 [#01142480]
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He is the new Warp Superstar. Both albums=excellent.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 12:46 [#01142485]
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well, it doesn't come over very friendly when you name a topic like this, on the other hand I see no problem in making such a topic.
if someone likes Clark, he can do two things - say he disagrees, or ignore the topic. it's pretty simple.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-14 12:48 [#01142491]
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Agreed, which is why I made the damn topic.
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Eddy Wally
from leuven (Belgium) on 2004-04-14 12:53 [#01142509]
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chris clark is one of my favorite artists, he makes so good music for his age.
btw. hes awesome live, and some of the upcoming stuff i heard is pretty mindblowing
cant wait for his next release
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-14 12:53 [#01142511]
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I think he's great. Noting particularly earth shattering or innovative, but I like the structure and sounds in his tracks, especially when the beats get crunchy, and he reminds me of the Calgary Flames.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-04-14 12:54 [#01142514]
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well did he?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 12:55 [#01142520]
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I don't think so.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-04-14 12:55 [#01142523]
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there's plenty of "average" artists signed to record labels. autechre for example.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-04-14 12:57 [#01142529]
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They ARE alternative electronic music. Superior
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 12:57 [#01142530]
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good grief.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-14 13:27 [#01142601]
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Agreed. I think he is pretty average too (lots of detail in production though). Take for instance someone just like Orange Dust, he is far far superior definitely. There is a lot of detail in Chris Clark's music but unless you've got the patience its not the kinda of music which instantly hits you. I would say he has 1 tune the rest are quite forgetable.
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japes
from Suriname on 2004-04-14 13:40 [#01142639]
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I've heard many tracks on xltronic that are far superior to anything Chris Clark has done, at least what I have heard.
To be honest, and this is just my opinion, I reckon he's a lot better than most people who make music here. Some people come close occasionally, but by and large I think Chris Clark is a lot better than many producers, especially almost everything Warp have released in the last year or so.
But Warp suck anyway.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-14 13:45 [#01142658]
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Chris Clark is really good. CP was an OK album especially as a first ever release. Ceramics was pretty good (The Gavel especially) and Empty the Bones has tons of mood. Besides saying OD is far far superior is a stupid comment to make, they make completely different styles of music. I think Chris' music currently occupies a wierd sort of middle ground between Aphex and Autechre for Warp. I'm looking forward to his next release.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 13:47 [#01142666]
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his production is very good. which is more than can be said for a lot of people on here.
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cutups
from Pittsburgh (United States) on 2004-04-14 13:48 [#01142667]
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I think its a matter of taste. If you call Chris Clark average...who is excellent? What is excellent about them that in comparison makes Chris Clark average?
I personally dig the more uptempo cuts, but some of the ambient stuff on Empty Bones of You is excellent, very nicely engineered sounds.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-14 14:59 [#01142788]
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chris clark is really good
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-14 15:03 [#01142795]
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I reckon it's okay. I don't get why everyone was hyping it as the next big thing... it's pretty mediocre IDM really.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-04-14 15:11 [#01142813]
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Chris Clark makes music I enjoy. I really liked his atari-ish melodies on Clarence Park. (The extra track on the warp site that you can download is sorta nannou-ish, which I dont dig as much. Not because I dont like nannou, because I love the track. But because it was too similar for me)
Empty the Bones of you and Ceramics is the Bomb are very nice records. He certainly has his own "sound" on these albums and you can hear him come into his own style and explore it more on these albums.
I know alot of people who dislike him and I can understand why. But EtBoY was essential listening for me as I walked around the sterile halls of my university this year thinking "What the fuck am I doing here?"
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-04-14 15:36 [#01142860]
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It's just not for me. I could see why people would like it though.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-14 17:17 [#01143011]
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ooo, this is the thread i like! chris clark's music is the most boring music in the universe...well, maybe oliver dragojevic is even more boring. but anyhow, extremly boring!
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-14 18:09 [#01143125]
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sorry for creating this whole mess.
I listened to Chris Clark's Clarence Park last night for the first time in a little while, and I just felt the need to share.
Yes, Clark uses a lot of nice sounding pads and things of that nature, I just don't find much of it refreshing. It kinda sounds like a rehashed autechre, which is not good.
But hell, he is on Warp and Im not so screw me, he must be doing something right!
For the record, I think Chris Clark is an average artist, and Im sorry if that makes anyone mad.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-14 18:10 [#01143130]
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i haven't heard any chris clark. i've kind of lost my interest in warp as of late, nothing against them, i've just been into other stuff.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-04-14 18:16 [#01143160]
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clarence park disappointed me after i was introduced to his song on the warp pool party compilation - i thought that song was outstanding!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-14 18:18 [#01143169]
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besides, there are far more labels with quality electronic music besides warp. :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-14 18:19 [#01143174]
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exactly! :)
only decent artist on warp these days, it's squareousher :(
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-14 18:21 [#01143180]
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nice to see that others agree.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 18:22 [#01143186]
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oh man.. not the obligatory warp-bashing again..
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-04-14 18:23 [#01143190]
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I like "empty the bones". It was very good. I'm gonna go listen to it now.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-14 18:25 [#01143196]
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you know you like it.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-14 18:27 [#01143203]
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here we go, with the obligatory observation of obligatory warp-bashing.
now, let's see how long it takes this thread to become a black hole of nonsense.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-04-14 19:11 [#01143280]
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for once we're in agreement
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-14 19:13 [#01143283]
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me too!! me too!!!
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-04-14 19:14 [#01143284]
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Nice avatar qrtr.
;>} <--- Richard D. James smiley
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mimi
on 2004-04-14 22:12 [#01143404]
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ooh, i too think chris clarke is balls......booooooring!
i dunno why people get so defensive when someone "complains" about what they think is bad. what's wrong with making your opinion known? you only get half the story if you only know what a person likes.
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guy
from sizzle frizzle on 2004-04-14 23:03 [#01143429]
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my friend described his music as "pedestrian", which I believe is quite accurate, and also the most problematic aspect of his Warpdom. whether it's good or not isn't really the issue. the issue stands in Warp watering down their musical tastes for the sake of popularity. that's my two cents at least.
ps. drummond, are you just trying to make trouble? :P
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guy
from sizzle frizzle on 2004-04-14 23:17 [#01143431]
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and just to change the subject, I think jp. buckle's album on rephlex is the most strangely satisfying record I've ever heard.
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pf
from Finland on 2004-04-14 23:31 [#01143432]
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Chris Clark is the cream of Warp. And Aphex and Squarepusher are cherry's, but i like cream more.
So Chris is the bomb
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azatoth233
from tku (Finland) on 2004-04-15 00:45 [#01143458]
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his production is very good. i like the crispiness and the wide dynamic range of it, but something lacks in his music..nice but forgetable tunes..nothing too special..
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-15 02:03 [#01143473]
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That's kind of what I like... it's ''nothing too special''. It's easy to get into and pleasant as heck, makes me feel good. It goes into the ear canal smoothly. So he's OK in my book.
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