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offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-05 01:31 [#01132549]
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Now, lets discuss Autechre - Chiastic Slide [WARPLP49].
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offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-05 01:32 [#01132551]
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w00t

isnt this great? the whooping sounds in the first track..

second track - rettic AC - reminds me of cumcumbers being
squashed trough a telephone line

another masterpiece :)


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 01:34 [#01132553]
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brilliant


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-05 01:36 [#01132555]
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Official MappatazeeTM's favorite Autechre
album.



 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-05 01:36 [#01132556]
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the only track i dont really enjoy is the kinda beatless one
near the end.. i think its called pule.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 01:38 [#01132557]
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Pule is the perfect moment of serenity after the rough
static ending of recury and before the assault of nuane


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2004-04-05 01:38 [#01132558]
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the album is mediocre, i think. i dunno. compared to
everything else they put out that year, especially. cichli
suite? envane? mmmmmmmmm.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-04-05 03:33 [#01132636]
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Pule is like breathing, it makes me think of soaked trees or
wood or some weird mushroom trip having to do with wet moss.
*boggle boggle*
The one I don't like really is cichli, it has a few good
elements though.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 03:36 [#01132639]
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I'm not really a big fan of Autechre, but Pule and Tewe are
pretty nice pieces. Is there more that sounds more like this
from them?

ah.. have to add Nuane as a good track as well... (I'm
listening on bleep right now).

..I might end up buying this CD if I see it, actually... but
only if I see it.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 03:40 [#01132640]
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From what I can remember pule's melody is symmetrical, if
you play it backwards it sounds the same as it does forwards
apart from the actual sounds being in reverse. I could be
wrong though, as I was completely mashed when I tried it.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 03:42 [#01132643]
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Drunken, you should listen to the album whole so you can see
how it all fits together.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 03:44 [#01132645]
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yeah, I probably should..

I'll have to hope I see it... if I see it on vinyl, it's
definately going down!


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 04:13 [#01132656]
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really a stunning CD. I like pule for precisely the reason
horsefactory gave--a moment of respite before the storm.
It's ridiculously innocent, and nuane isn't only nasty but
also a culmination of tracks before it (see how beats
develop between it and the two immediately prior pule).

The first tracks are all really pretty as well. I think
hub, rettic ac (for alternating current? something to do
with the static and sound fluctuation?), and nuane are my
favorite tracks.

Someone was asking about 'happy IDM tracks' a while back and
I was surprised when none of these were mentioned.

They keep playing around with shocking timbre changes in
this.. it used to often bother me when recury came on.

I like how rettic AC and calbruc are two approaches to a
similar problem.. one day I need to sit down and parse all
of these titles.


 

offline k_maty on 2004-04-05 04:27 [#01132663]
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If you can find a way to relate the album title and the
number 4, you are a genious.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 04:33 [#01132666]
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You mean simple letter combinations? It's quite easy, and
there are a few logical ways.

chiastic slide .. cichli

li from slide and cich from first is one way (I'm doing some
hand waving on details for sake of boredom). I guess you
can keep first two and tag them on to reversal of last two.
There are more rigorous/formulaic ways to explain it...

what I really mean is I need to expand all the words and
relate definitions.. Nuane sounds most obviously like
nuance, but nuane is violent. Maybe it's a paradox? I bet
it's something much more complicated though, or some homonym
shit (like drukqs)


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-05 04:42 [#01132667]
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Meh


 

offline pf from Finland on 2004-04-05 04:51 [#01132679]
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its quite nice actually..


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 04:52 [#01132683]
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i like about half this cd, but i agree with absace...

if they gave this the tri rep treatment and put those 2 eps
on a second disc with it, id buy it.

especially cichlisuite.
tilapia.... mmmmmmmmmmmmm


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-05 04:53 [#01132684]
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I'm going to have to listen to it again...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 04:53 [#01132686]
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but do you people who like and have all the music by
autechre consider this their best album?


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 04:55 [#01132688]
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I can never decide between this, confield and draft, but it
is definitely always a contender.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-05 04:57 [#01132689]
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After Tri Repetae++, the stunning leap forward with which
Autechre astounded the techno world, the duo's fourth proper
album came as a disappointment to many. The waves of polar
static and mechanic clicks which distinguished Tri Repetae
make Chiastic Slide little more than a variation on a form.
Even worse, the album has too few ideas for its near
70-minute length, and the duo seem content with short loops
being repeated and repeated over again for up to ten minutes
on a single track. Though several songs are on a par with
Tri Repetae — and that's being generous — Chiastic Slide
just can't compare with Autechre's other work.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:02 [#01132691]
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the thing with this cd is, i heard so many people saying it
is one of their favs, and i just think the things this album
does well are kinda covered by tri rep and lp5.

i dont know... i dont see this one as really having a
defined identity like most do.

i have definitely warmed up to this album more, but i just
think theres somethign im not getting.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 05:05 [#01132695]
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You sound like Alan Partridge when he phones his ex-wife and
tries to insult her car by reading her a review of it in a
desperate attempt at getting his point across.

"Not my words, but the words of Top Gear Magazine"


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:06 [#01132696]
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tri repetae++ is really a nice grab, isn't it? Especially
since the part from garbage is what I like so much.. it's
doubtful they'll do this, why don't you try to check a
couple of the good tracks (lots of suggestions on this
thread) and give it a listen?


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 05:07 [#01132699]
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I cannot relate to that at all. This album has much more of
a definitive style to it than LP5, and is a lot deeper than
that or Tri Repetae, in my eyes.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:08 [#01132702]
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By the way, Harrisburg is kind of a cute place--I drove
through one month back. Ate at the firehouse, probably the
strangest social meeting place/restaurant ever.

The site laggy for everyone else right now? I feel like I'm
communicating with mars friggin global surveyor.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:10 [#01132704]
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the tri repetae++ bundle is a real grab though, and that's
what he was referring too. I listen to it a lot, but more
so the second disc than the first..


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:11 [#01132706]
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oh no... not the firehouse.

yeh, this town is "cute" but trust me... you wouldnt want to
live here.

high redneck population, almost no genuine culture to it.
all the artists here are snobs, cuz they think theyre one in
a zillion or something.

bogus.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:14 [#01132711]
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Dude I was really perplexed by the firehouse. A friend
forced me to eat there--I wanted to eat at 'second wok' next
to 'the spot' (in NYC I often eat at this cheap chinese
shithole called 'wok city' next to my old school).

Anyway, it seemed like it was the high society meeting
place. It was fucking surreal. Oh and they treated me and
my friend like shit.

Any funny stories? I'll warn you when I get near harrisburg
again (I may be driving through in about half a year--still
uncertain).


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:17 [#01132714]
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dude, if you drive through...
im always down for an xlt meeting of the minds.

i have stories... its funny that you were gonna eat near the
spot.
theres a few bars around here that are real funny. glasse
from the board here showed me a good one next to this
sheraton hotel.

irish pub, live celtic music.
its nice for the first hour, but then youre like "can we go
NOW!?!?!?!?!?"


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-04-05 05:20 [#01132717]
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HA, that's pretty awesome. The spot was terrifying. I
walked in and 40 people with mullets and lumberjack clothing
either glared at me or managed to ignore me in some
elaborately hostile way.

I walked in, walked out. People looked like they lived
there.

Yeah I'll definitely tell you when I stop by.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-05 05:34 [#01132720]
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:D


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 05:54 [#01132738]
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the spot is even more hilarious if you go in totally by
yourself and oyu manage to have a really cracked out guy
sitting near you.

i dont know about you, but the LAST way i wanna go out is by
having a gas0huffer slash my throat cuz he thinks my head is
the devil.


 

offline k_maty on 2004-04-05 06:07 [#01132749]
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I think if you switch Chiastic Slide and LP5 their albums
would be lined up best to worst, newest being the best, but
theirs no way LP5 could follow Tri Repetae.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-05 06:14 [#01132762]
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ok.

I'll try to see if I see tri repetae, then.


 

offline k_maty on 2004-04-05 06:39 [#01132790]
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Um that didn't make sense. I meant chronologically, oldest
being the worst, with the exception of Chiastic Slide and
LP5 which should be switched, but that wouldn't sound right
going from Tri Repetae to LP5... ah, who cares what the hell
am I talking about? Nevermind, sorry for ruining this
thread.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2004-04-05 06:41 [#01132794]
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I like recury and calbruc best


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-04-05 06:54 [#01132797]
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this is a good album. doesn't beat Amber, though. "tewe",
"pule", and "cipater" are my favs.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-05 07:05 [#01132800]
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tewe is excellent... ill say that.

also quite fond of nuane.

i like the aeon flux-ity of that track... just very anime.


 

offline polygon_ring from somewhere else on 2004-04-05 09:37 [#01132953]
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this was the first autechre album i bought. it may be for
sentimental reasons but it's still one of my favourites.
cichli is probably the ae track that i've listened to the
most. nuane was the first one that i loved off this album
but cichli got all my affection later on. sounds like
machines haveing sex. wicked.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-05 09:42 [#01132956]
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it takes 4 words to form a chiasm (is that the english
spelling?)

..?


 

offline kc from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-05 09:53 [#01132969]
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The way Cipater goes through its changes round the middle is
incredible. I just love listening to the part where the
clicks start speeding up and slow down and change rhythms


 

offline kc from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-05 09:53 [#01132973]
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err. click start speeding up and OTHER ELEMENTS* slow down


 

offline k_maty on 2004-04-05 10:11 [#01133009]
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You are a genlus.

Or this. Scroll down to chiasm. Maybe that is
why the artwork is covered with plus signs. Yay, now each
autechre album relates to its number or something.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-04-05 10:13 [#01133011]
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no im just a nerd whos taking greek classes, and all those
old manuscripts are ridden with fancy writing styles such as
chiasms, pars pro toto and alliteration and such (i dont
know if im using the right terms)


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-04-14 13:32 [#01142613]
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ooo i like this album. haven't listened to it in a while. it
kind of has an association to a part of my life that isn't
so pleasant now so whenever i listen to it reminds me of
that time. booo to bad musical associations. yay to this
album.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-14 13:33 [#01142615]
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I'm surprised at it's relative low score in the current
poll.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-04-20 12:27 [#01152492]
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I take it all back - this is my favourite album in the whole
entire fucking world.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-20 12:36 [#01152521]
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What did you say before>


 


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