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offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-03 15:21 [#01131411]
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I have fallen in love with this package so much I have
bought myself the official package. That shit I posted
yesterday was my first track with it. It is just so
powerful and I prefer it in almost every way to Reaktor.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-04-03 15:24 [#01131417]
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i heard the rob brown and sean booth experience uses it.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-04-03 15:28 [#01131420]
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this looks cool, but i prefer hardware


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-03 15:31 [#01131425]
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?

The Max part of of MaxMSP is basically just being able to
program MIDI sequences which can be output to hardware or
whatever you like.

The MSP part is audio manipulation.

As a package it is rediculously powerful.


 

offline Skeptopotamus from Home (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-03 15:31 [#01131426]
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It is nice, isn't it? Probably the only piece of software
that justifies a hefty price tag too, once you get to grips
with the beast it does some mind-bending things.

Still building my uber-speldorific patch for live stuff with
it too, ableton can go eat pebbles once I'm finished!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-03 15:36 [#01131432]
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When I first heard people say about using it live I thought
"yeah right"...but straight away you see there is nothing
you can't do.

And I have you to thank for all this :D


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-04-03 15:36 [#01131434]
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I (still) don't work with computers as sequencers.


 

offline Skeptopotamus from Home (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-03 15:42 [#01131445]
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No worries, I just listened to the track you did with it
which gets a mighty big "fuckin' brilliant stuff!" thumbs
up. Glad was of some assistance.


 

offline tlink from sofla (United States) on 2004-04-03 15:43 [#01131451]
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Are they hip-hop producers?


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-04-03 15:44 [#01131455]
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i think they conduce hop_hip actually


 

offline tlink from sofla (United States) on 2004-04-03 15:46 [#01131458]
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Ah, salesmen


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-03 15:47 [#01131459]
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Much appreciated :D


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-03 15:53 [#01131469]
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You mean that track that face ripping off track?
Interesting. Did you build a max/msp structure (or ehatever
you call them) from scratch to do that?

Is there a Max/MSP user library where people upload their
creations like at NI?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-03 15:57 [#01131479]
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I built it from scratch. I haven't looked to see if there
is anywhere people upload their stuff. I have just read
through the tutorials and then built my own machine(s).


 

offline Tran on 2004-04-03 16:56 [#01131573]
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where do you get your samples from? or do you generate them?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-03 17:08 [#01131587]
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If you mean in general:

The package is basically a development system for audio
applications. It's not really a traditional music package
as such. You can use samples as part of the machines your
build and they can be anything you want.

Specifically my track (I don't think you meant this one):

Only one sample was used which was a single snare hit.
Everything else is generated.


 

offline Tran on 2004-04-03 17:22 [#01131591]
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i ment you personally [i use max/msp aswell]. so i have an
idea as to how it works


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-03 22:20 [#01131766]
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For those who can't afford MAX/MSP, there is a Free isotope
of the same called Pure Data ...

http://pure-data.iem.at/about/ ...

PD is a real-time graphical programming environment for
audio and graphical processing.It was planned as a free,
better and more stable Max/fts, which has also been
developed by Miller Smith Puckette at IRCAM.

PD was written for multiplattform from the beginning and
therefore is more portable; PD is open source software, it
is free for any use and can be downloaded with the Internet.
PD runs at least on Win32, IRIX, LINUX and Mac-OSX
plattforms.

...



 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-04-04 00:01 [#01131786]
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i've moved on to max/msp for my lp coming out in august...
im very happy with it, although when i first started it was
extremely frustrating, and i fealt like murdering peeps.
fortunatly i have been doing tutorials on it at uni... im
gonna be doing some sick shit with it


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-04-04 08:56 [#01131835]
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someone impress me with max msp.
I wanna hear a dry loop and that same loop run through max
msp. I'm still not convinced to use max/msp


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-04-04 09:01 [#01131837]
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jand, is there any kind of GUI for the PD program? All I get
is a dos-prompt.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-04-04 10:50 [#01131880]
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so..what's up?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-04-04 11:18 [#01131902]
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I've been checking it out - you should get a PD window with
a file menu etc. where you can select new, open etc.

The gui seems to be written in Tk, a tookilt originally used
with the TCL scripting language.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-04 16:41 [#01132216]
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No, you don't get it. It's not a case of running shit
through it. You build machines to do what you want them to
do, or you can purely use it as a MIDI sequencing tool. You
can basically do anything you want with it.


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-04-04 16:43 [#01132218]
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wheres can I find me one of them there max/msps?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-04 16:44 [#01132221]
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you can get a time limited demo off cycling74.com

you can get a time unlimited demo elsewhere I think.


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-04-04 17:24 [#01132291]
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thanx!

PS> Ableton Live is amazing :-))))))


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-04-04 18:24 [#01132318]
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i have pure data but using it has got me stumped.

ill work it out sometime :) im very interested in a program
as a sophisticated midi tool - otherwise im just doing pop
music nowadays eheh


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-04-04 22:17 [#01132476]
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I thought you just hire out producers like the neptunes?


 

offline zonkey kong from here (Vatican City State (Holy See)) on 2004-04-04 22:37 [#01132481]
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if you like that package, then check out mine!


 

offline zonkey kong from here (Vatican City State (Holy See)) on 2004-04-04 22:55 [#01132489]
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pd is more confusing then max/msp


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 01:59 [#01132587]
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I have yet to get into this. I keep meaning to as I think
I'd be happier with my music knowing that I'd had a stronger
part in making it. Won't make it any better but that's
something I know and accept.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2004-04-05 06:20 [#01132770]
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Magix Music Maker is the bomb!!!!!!!!!!!111

Fucking amateurs with your MaxMSP....


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-05 06:50 [#01132796]
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I heard there is a Max/MSP eJay in the works


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-05 07:08 [#01132807]
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That stuff is too hard for me, "Circle Elements" is where
it's at.


 

offline rarndaraki from from from from (United States) on 2004-04-05 07:15 [#01132817]
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if you want to be impressed with max/msp you could always
listen to autechre, anything after chiastic slide is all
pretty much max/msp and a nord.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-04-05 09:59 [#01132989]
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I don't want to be impressed with it, I want to use it to
create more random tracks than the use of a regular
sequencer allows to. Combine it with something like Cubase
SL/SX and some nice hardware "Made in Sweden" and there you
go :)

I've sent out my bots to track down the extended demo. $495
is a bit steep for something that I might not use that much.
It's hard to tell in advance.


 

offline Ranjiv from Nor Cal (United States) on 2004-04-05 10:54 [#01133058]
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Hey ecnadniarb, I'd like to see yourmax patches. Want to
share?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-05 11:05 [#01133074]
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I've only had the package for just over a week in total, so
I am still just learning everything. Hopefully me and Sam
(horsefactory off the board) will be doing some stuff
together in the near future. Once I am fully up and running
I will send you some stuff.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-04-05 11:06 [#01133075]
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I just want hear one of the possibilities of max/msp that's
all.
I know the thing can generate crap but I wonder what you can
do with it if you would use it as an effect processor.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-04-05 11:07 [#01133077]
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send me a cool patch you made or something


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-04-05 11:07 [#01133081]
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this was directed to braindance spelled bachwards


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-05 11:11 [#01133086]
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I haven't really got too into the MSP side of things yet
when it comes to sample manipulation. Times a bit tight at
the moment so I am not sure when I will get the chance to go
into that stuff. There are probably other people on the
board in a lot better position to sort you out with that
sort of thing.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-04-05 11:34 [#01133118]
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Does the demo do everything the real thing does? Can it
render MP3's straight out of the package?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-04-05 11:36 [#01133120]
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Yes you can do everything. No you can't render MP3's
straight out it only allows you to do WAV or AIFF as it
records in real time.


 


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