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i've said it before, and i'll say it again: i think autechre cultivates an entirely new way of listening -- not just to music -- but to sound, in general. when you're first dropped off into autechre territory, you have so very little to hang on to -- esp. confield etc -- so you start to cultivate your, er "peripheral vision" -- i.e. the kind of experience/moods you pick up when you react/pay attention to different features of the music in different ways.. the experience is very rich, and is why i love them... some of their stuff, which i also love, is simply typical, cold electronica (esp. older stuff) which i can enjoy as just that.. but once you make the leap to confield territory..... the usual response to this is, why do you need autechre? listen to various random noises and you can pick up the same stuff one, if this is an ability i pick up from listening to ae -- that is, to turn the experience of random noises into something that i can brood over aesthetically, take pleasure in, all the better! two, ae is not just random noise -- often tightly structured, often very discernable patterns rise then disintegrate from the tracks.. i'm perfectly willing to accept that this isn't everyone's experience -- not because they're "not enlightened enough" but simply because not everyone digs this mode of listening. ok. that's ae for me. |
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thankyou :) |
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Because Autechre makes music like no one else. When I first listened to Amber, i was a "rocker", and a new world of music opened to me. I didn't know that such music existed. |
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I have come to think that Confield is more random, and that Draft is more carefully constructed, even though outwardly it doesn't sound so. The sounds in Draft seem to react to eachother and are put together in a completely new way. Confield is still an extension of music. Draft is an even further step from Confield, in the same direction I guess more or less. |
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i agree with that whole heartedly. i think they really busted somethign wide open with draft. a new approach to the fine line between chaos and order in music. |
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In draft autechre take musical structures from their middle releases and apply mechanics of forced evolution turning them in to stuff similar to confield. Confield on the other hand is a wholy new approach to rhythmology. I haven't listened to something similar to parhellic triangle. I sure hope electronic music adopts that approach!!! |
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Parhelic Triangle makes me think of large lumps of some kind of metallic play-dough like material being pushed into each other. It is very chunky. |
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i personally like confield better, but it isn't something i can justify by pointing to some objective feature.. just its feel speaks more to me i guess |
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..in the middle of some industrial meccha or sprawling megapolis of unabating energy.. |
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well... the question has always been why not? |
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nothing is random about ae's music. you should know that by now... i know these guys spend plenty of time in their studios developing new sounds. if you still believe it's random - you haven't listened to it... only heard it. |
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i used to 'hate' ae, thats like i didnt like the 5 tunes i downloaded :p but then i bought incunabula and envane and tri repetae and.. andd......andddddd... now im hooked :D |
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i despised confield and gantz graf when i first heard them, i didnt get why such a good group would do such shite. but then i heard draft and somethign about this whole period for them clicked. very powerful for me. |
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OK..... I have a mental block with Draft 7.30 but I seem to be getting better. The tracks are starting to take shape a little more as I listen........ It's almost like staring at one of those Magic Eye things that eventually form a 3D image after a little while of staring........... I find it best not to concentrate on one part of the track, just let it flow through you............ mmmmmm............. VL AL 5 is getting good......... I am suffering from severe sleep deprivation now tho.......... maybe it's opening my perceptions up XI |
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autechre = sound for the pure sake of sound - very little reference frame makes its extremely interesting and stimulating for me... as for "random" sounds? I don't think melodies, stabs, chords, glitchiness or anything that comes from the heart during their music making process can be simply reduced to the word "random" no matter how wierd it seems. Squarepusher on the other hand uses a reference frame that exists purely for the duration of the track.. theres a familiarity he has personally set-up for that time, that makes him equally genious to Ae but in a totaly different way... example "District Line ll", "steinbolt" etc. |
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Yes, that is the key, try not to "think" about the music, just relax and let it sink in. |
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as much as i've listened to music i can say that the first time i heard autechre, i already sort of fell in love with what it was. now i've listened to it too much perhaps. i think that autechre is the best band i know, cause everything they make is kind of better than their previous stuff, eventho it's so complicated music, they can still make it better. i aslo think that artists from schematic records are very good, they know their way to move on. autechre is far from being random music, perhaps the person to who it sounds random is just thinking too primitive, try harder! for all autechre fans i reccommend Nick Forte - Pasted Lakses, if anyone hasn't heard yet (from schematic). |
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Sean and Rob are two enlightened men. But to write smth like We Are R Why you need to be two times more enlightened, seems. |
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What Listening to AE has done for me... Advantages 1. Dramatically increases pattern recognition. 2. Dramatically increases aesthetic appreciation of timbre. 3. Sharpens awareness of the sound/emotion relationship 4. increases ability to create effective visual and tactile analogies of sound Disadvantages 1. Dramatically increases appearance of being full of shit 2. Decreases attractiveness due to ugly ass headphones 3. Decreases ability to socially interact while listening 4. Increases desire for more creative and interesting sounds thereby increasing dissapointment and boredom. |
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ive got another good disadvantage i cant seperate very good glitchy random-but-not-so-random tracks from utter crap |
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I believe Confield was made with more synthesized templates and scapes.... Draft was composed much more intricately with almost every beat and sound placed individually.. (the way i like, and do it). |
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Dirk McGirt says: Draft 7.30 is good, but Confield is forever! |
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Jaroen Does Not Listen To Dirk Mc Grime |
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Dirk McGirt AKA Sweet Baby Jesus AKA Old Dirty Bastard |
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I like Draft but the sound of rubbing rubber and creeking wood can be tedious at times |
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i think of parahelic triangle as large, fast moving mechanical spiders destroying a massive city scape... in general i find the whole album to sound somewhat like an apocalypse where machines gain self-autonomy and morph the landscape |
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Cool. I never really get such vivid images with autechre, instead I find myself visualising primarily basic objects which become more complex and intricate the more I focus on them. They always fit the sound absolutely perfectly (to me) though. |
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I mean objects, shapes and patterns, you know. |
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well it's probably not as visual as it sounds... the main percussion just sounds like the rotating inner workings of a very fast-moving highly intelligent machine... and it does sound (to me) like these things are kind of darting all about the soundscape... from there, i've just kind of extrapolated for the sake of extrapolation |
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FACT: the sounds of the bells in parhelic triangle are completely acoustic, I forget the name of the instrument, but it's sitting in (sean? rob?)'s place, which is in an old museum |
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The melody it forms in the last quarter or so of the track is fantastic. "Lovely stuff" |
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gamelan bowls..? |
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also, sudden roundabout is a real place, it's a major roundabout intersect a few major highways, it has some of the skamboys graffiti on it, it used to be a meeting place for the local taggers to meet up |
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Draft would be a satisfactory album if it weren't for Tapr. Lord how I hate that track. |
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That's only because it slept with your girlfriend. |
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You just don't get it. |
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i needed a long time to get into "old" autechre, but now im totally in love with his music, with the climax, actually, on garbage... it will be harder with confield and draft... but it will be... time to time. |
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Amber took me into remote scape once... I am infected by AE. UnderBOAC - liquid metal drops |
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his music even? |
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happy cycling (1st post) >interesting read... i quite agree with that! =) it made me want to listen to Autechre again. (Confield, which i haven't listened to in months, and it's really nice to listen to it again!) actually... i think i'm just halfway through really "understanding"/appreciating Autechre - i don't think their music is any random, and i like it if i'm in the mood - but being in the mood for Autechre happens to me once in a blue moon, because their music is so "out of this world", it's like music made for aliens or unknown forms of virtual species - it's not made to fit human emotions. Sean and Rob must be really weird persons too, probably very cold and with bionic souls or something - i read interviews of them and they seemed a little bit hostile towards humankind, also they answered "60%" when the interviewer asked them "how are you?". scary. : ) |
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by the way, funny strange thing: try looking for "once in a blue moon" ( without the " ") in google o_O |
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haaa, nice. I'm getting my first autechre on slsk. Draft 7.30 (thats autechre right? har har har) anyway, we'll see if I like :> |
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i do like autechre a lot, but imo they just aren't in the same league as afx, sp, boc. These 3's music touches me, sexually even, and autechres just strokes me gently but never really becomes, sexual. |
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haha good metaphor? metaphor? |
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it was actually just me being really stupid. |
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THEN youre funny stupid |
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then you are surely, ma' dawg. |
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hahahaha again, youre hilarious! haha ahhhh good times. |
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since i heard confield (yeah that was my first autechre listen) ive loved autechre. but only recently have i really come to understand the complexity of their rhythms and melodies. each sound really is perfectly placed. theres nothing quite like walking through a crowded airport with big ass headphones and listening to lp5 and just absorbing everything around you. it really is other-worldly. thats what i love about autechre. with afx, sp and boc, you can feel that "yes, this is music, exellent music, but still music" with autechre it feels like theyve made one step past music, more into..... i dont fuckin know, there really isnt a word for it yet, is there? |
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whats a good cd autechre cd to start with? ive downloaded a few songs but never really could get into them... |
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