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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 18:17 [#01127296]
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next time you are bored and thinking about coming LAZY_TITLE, try going here instead. Just pretend it's xltronic with a layout change, you can do it. Go there right now in fact. There's no avatars there, BUT there are some pictures. You can get over your xltronic addiction. I've made it so easy for you, just one little click. It's so much better over there. Don't worry, there are still lots of these funny marks called "letters" over there. They're just... better.
Wikipedia is the best thing on the internet. It might be potentially the best collection of knowledge ever available on earth.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 18:17 [#01127297]
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sigh
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big
from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:21 [#01127302]
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wtf: letters!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 18:32 [#01127309]
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Suggestion:
You mind your own business and stop suggesting stupid things I am not interested in.
Regards
Me.
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big
from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:34 [#01127310]
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Puppis (the poop deck) is a southern constellation. It is the largest of the three parts into which Argo Navis was split.
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big
from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:38 [#01127312]
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also minorly stunning: if you make it search fcuk it gives no answer and suggests a google search which gives as a first hit the wikipedia
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wimp
on 2004-03-31 18:39 [#01127313]
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Great site.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 18:39 [#01127314]
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*THREAD CLOSED FOR BEING NONSENSE AND WANK*
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big
from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:42 [#01127316]
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Masturbation is the manual excitation of the sexual organs, most often to the point of orgasm. It can refer to excitation either by oneself or by another (mutual masturbation), but most commonly it is restricted to refer only to such activities performed alone. It is part of a larger set of activities known as autoeroticism, which also includes the use of sex toys and non-genital stimulation. Masturbation and sexual intercourse are the two most common sexual practices.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 18:42 [#01127317]
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Ignore me, my brain is making be a tit.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 18:42 [#01127318]
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Well done. Now get a job you hippy.
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big
from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:43 [#01127320]
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Etymology
The word masturbation is believed by many to derive from a plural Greek word for penis (μεζεα) and the Latin word turba, meaning disturbance. A competing etymology based on a Latin phrase meaning "to defile with the hands" is regarded by most dictionaries as "an old conjecture".
The word onanism was used as a synonym, but it is rarely used today, because it is falsely interlinked to a Biblical story Genesis 38:7-9, in which a man called Onan "spilled his seed [semen] upon the ground" to avoid impregnating his dead brother's wife. It is now generally agreed that the passage refers to the sexual contraception method of coitus interruptus but not to masturbation, and so the term onanism has become obsolete in English.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 18:49 [#01127325]
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you don't need to be able to copy/paste to work here.. but it helps!!
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:06 [#01127377]
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wikitastic
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:12 [#01127381]
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As you see, related topics are connected by links in a huge interconnected mass of knowledge. The author here is everyone.
Anyone can change and augment the entries. I just changed the topic "masturbation in animals" into "masturbation in animals other than humans". (I am quite proud of this change.) The whole thing is copyleft which basically allows humans to agree to sacrifice personal selfishness for the good of a wonderful collaberative project.
Everything is handled so eloquently (spelled wrong). There are "disambiguation pages" for words with multiple meanings... just look at their neutral point of view policy
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 20:13 [#01127382]
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yeah pedantic semantics is important.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:15 [#01127384]
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"copyleft" may be one of the worst play on words in existence.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 20:25 [#01127389]
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Shit, until I looked on that website I always thought 'copyright' was an order to be executed.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:29 [#01127394]
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The only thing that concerns me is the blatant oppurtunity for contributors to add false or incorrect information. Is this system peer-reviewed or regluated in some way?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:35 [#01127401]
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You may feel like you have a good grasp on the meanings of a wide variety of things, and surely you do. You've been alive for some decades and learned a lot culturally. But some of those things you think you know about in depth and analytically already can be some of the most interesting things to read about in my opinion. Just simple things like "copyright". It's fun to analyze something and find out what exactly it is at it's very very core. You sometimes challenge the axioms already stored as information in your brain.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:36 [#01127407]
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I agree.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 20:38 [#01127409]
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I know nothing. I just blag my way through life but it serves me well. I have no interest in having any more knowledge on a subject than I absolutely need.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-03-31 20:39 [#01127412]
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there's always the opportunity for it to be corrected... it's no different than non-virtual information
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:42 [#01127419]
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I came across this site and this site in my reading about the unabomber. I found interviews I'd never have found and a book the unabomber enjoyed (the technological society) which I'll now probably read. He tried to escape from industrialization to live peacefully in Montana. He was going to just do his thing and let everyone else do theirs until people build a road right through a sacred location of his, an intrusion of the technology he was trying to avoid. He wrote some interesting things, about how in the wilderness, happiness was a thing that one experienced "now" as opposed to in civilization how happiness is always just something that's anticipated for later. And though his logical self didn't believe it, his primitive emotional self created gods, one a "grandfather rabbit" since his main meal was rabbits.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-03-31 20:45 [#01127423]
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Enid Blyton Pioneered all that Rabbit shit years ago!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:46 [#01127424]
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so..how do you measure this..?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 20:48 [#01127427]
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Psychology is really interesting...however just how much information could be gained as to a persons mental state purely because they liked a certian book is questionable. His interpretation of the text will more than likely have been totally different to the way you will interpret it. Having said this you will attempt to fit the text into a context you beleive either conciously or subconciously he was in at the time of reading. Whether your conclusions are accurate would be debatable.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:50 [#01127429]
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One time that chick from tech tv, while on tv, changed ... monkeypox I think... to read "Jane (or whatever her name was) is totally cool and doesn't have monkeypox". So yeah anyone can change anything and it's prone to trolling. But it's too pure a system to ethically troll in and besides anyone can revert previous entries if someone vandalizes stuff. The great minds working on this project have already discussed and are discussing the topic of vandalism to the core, rest assured.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:51 [#01127433]
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The ability for anyone to edit it is pretty cool, just for the sake of universal access. It's like the ultimate realization of hypermedia. And they have really in-depth entries on some IDM artists too.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 20:52 [#01127434]
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Measure which? How much knowledge I require to blag people that I am fairly intelligent? Basically I tend to know a lot about stuff I feel will help me socially or in business etc...so I have done a lot of research into psychology and sociology. Obviously my work is mainly based on computers so I know a fair bit about computers. A lot of the stuff Paul (marlowe) reads holds no interest at all for me...he will read literature where as I read technical manuals...but what he does will help him in what he has planned for the future.
I think it is important to have a general overview of as many things as possible, but there is that much information out there it is pointless wasting your time reading about stuff that will have no practical application in your life, you operate much more effectively if you don't.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:55 [#01127436]
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word.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:58 [#01127439]
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but operating effectively is sooo boring.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:58 [#01127440]
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what does Paul have planned for the future?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 21:00 [#01127442]
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"operate much more effectively" was just my way of saying "not coming across like a promo"
Paul mentioned he was going to uni to do a journalism course :D
About time the boy made full use of his brain in front of other people.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 21:08 [#01127445]
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promo bases all his knowledge on the internet.
good for Paul! he needs something to occupy himself.. :P
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:13 [#01127454]
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For whatever reason, the human brain swelled in size exponentially in a small ammount of evolutionary time. So we now have the capability to learn and retain a great deal of information. But it's not necessary to do so, at least it wouldn't be necessary (to this degree) in a hunter gatherer lifestyle. scientists and scholars have been criticized for doing what they do ... just so they have something to do, something to focus on, a goal to pursue. They replace their previous behavior of making tools and hunting and whatnot to science/learning, because they have to replace it with something. So maybe the nanotechnology and supercomputers that humanity creates was mostly due to surrogate activity that replaced primitive activity.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 21:16 [#01127457]
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yes and i agree that rigid education systems stunt human development. but these days there seems to be people gathering information and not applying it to produce anything new, which is pointless.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:28 [#01127475]
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But maybe using information to produce something new is only negative to humanity, ie. did the automobile make life better or worse? People who don't like the results of such technology tend to adjust to it rather than go backward to simpler previous systems because humans tend to seek the path of least resistance.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 21:32 [#01127476]
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and why this constant drive to create new things, to be useful?
life is generally pointless anyway.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-03-31 21:33 [#01127478]
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western culture's obsession with progress and the will to act upon the world doesn't necessarily always benefit the world at large
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 21:34 [#01127479]
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there is always good and bad effects of any new developments and in general the automobile has improved standard of living...sure it has some negative effects but they get worked out over time. Evolution is a constant process, and creatures evolve greater capacity for thought and learning as it is required. The problem is that the thinking is being taken out of jobs which are being automated by technology...you have, for the first time in human development, reached a stage where the mass populace of people don't have to think for themselves at all. The work in jobs during the day where the computer does all the processing of work, then they come home of a night and cabbage out in front of the TV...which basically has gone from being a visual information source into a programming tool for the human mind.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:37 [#01127481]
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speaking of rabbit shit,:
Cecal pellets are mostly digested food that rabbits defecate and subsequently reingest; a process known as Coprophagia. Usually a rabbit will eat the pellets straight from their anus, and as such, many people do not know of this aspect of a rabbit's diet. They are often referred to as "night pellets" or "night droppings", since the rabbits tend to eat them a few hours after their evening meal.
Cecal pellets are soft, smelly, clumpy feces, and are a rabbit's only supply of Vitamin B12. Due to the design of the rabbit's digestive system, they cannot extract some vitamins and minerals directly from their food. At the end of their digestive system is an area called the cecum where cellulose and other plant fibers are broken down and ferment. After they have been broken down and passed, a rabbit's digestive system can finally extract the vitamins from them.
I was trying to find out how the intestines produce round little balls, but this was interesting too. Rabbits are coprophagians
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 21:38 [#01127482]
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Humans on a purely animalistic level are meant to do three things in life. Get born, reproduce and die. However if we stop evolving and developing eventually something else will come along to replace us as the dominent species on the planet.
It's like western nations have what is being described as "a massive skills gap" in a number of areas. However in so called "less developed" nations they have an abundance of these people. It is because the west has got lazy which will lead to the rise of the east. The west will obviously try to fight this shift in power (some would say Iraq has been the first step in this) but they will merely delay it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 21:41 [#01127484]
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yes, but this is nature, you see. if we die out because we didn't do anything useful, we die out. it's kind of hard to shape your own life around the idea of succesful evolution.
and what is "useful" anyway? would you, for example, see the work of artists as being useful?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:43 [#01127486]
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Where did qrter go? Oh, he's probably rimming a chicken or something.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-03-31 21:45 [#01127487]
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Yes. Everyone can play their part. Artist provide inspiration and pleasure to other people. Also art is an intrinsic part of conceptualising ideas as we are a very visual species. But to me a woman who bares no children, stays at home watching TV all day apart from doing a bit of housework is a complete failure in life. Anyone who doesn't maximise their ability are not only letting themselves down, but also the entire human race. Anyway I am off to bed now. Good night :D
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 01:18 [#01127600]
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What you do not see here is that the current western political social and economical system is based on and therefore cultivates individualistic tendencies (ok these tendencies evolved in parrallel with the system). For example TV says: don't worry yourself about current problems just consume. TV is a medium whose history is a micrography of human cultural evolution. Started off as a gimmick and now LO.... THE INTERNET. Schools basically teach children to only look after themselves. This is a cultural evolutionary trait that is required in todays western societies but it didn't just appear out of thin air just recently. One can notice the human tendency to build societies. That can only lead to the building of larger societies for undisputed(??) reasons of practical nature. (A species has the tendency to fight for its survival. Survival is a term that in evolutionary mechanics contains the tendency to thrive to become stronger in order to conserve your place). The building of larger and larger societies, the gathering of people in one large place is called centralisation. I believe that this is a natural tendency that eventually led to neo liberalism;the current western socio-political and cultural state. Centralisation doesn't only refer to the gathering of people in one place but of wealth and natural resources as well. What we have here is an inevitability. The human brain has hardly evolved the past millenia but biological and cultural evolution are different parts of the same mechanism. It just seems that the poverty that plagues the countries of the thirld world didn't just suddenly appear either. The fact that they as a people didn't evolve culturally for the last 300-400 hundred years worked in conjunction to the fact that the western world did. Itis just a step in the process of centralisation. Every thing that's going on on planet earth is connected to each other. The tendency you mr ecnadniarb describe as Get born, reproduce and die is just a way man saw things in the past ....... CONTINUING ABO
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 01:34 [#01127611]
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is just a contemporary version of the ever so universal truth of "SURVIVE!!!!". I bet you know the term passive aggressivist or something. It is a term of the anglosaxon intelligencia. The idle housewives you describe are doing exactly what they are needed to do for their society. They give up their so called rights and other people are making decisions for them. This is what makes the western world so powerful. Islam is another capitalistic socio-political and economical tendency (allthough capitalism is an economical term) that works in the same principal. Yes it is old but not stale. It works for the situation those people are in. What I am trying to say (this is a chaotic subject and my brain is extremely disorganised) anyway is that we as "scholars" should observe planet earth as a whole. Acquirring knowledge one thinks are useful is self deluding----exactly how the current western system works. We need to have a panoramic view of things. Maybe it is impossible. Maybe we will just get to find out how inept we really are but most of the things that are going on will an effect on humanity. If we want to preserve it we needn't just fornicate and produce offsprings. We need to learn things. Of course I hate humans therefore I will just sit here and eat pop corn.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 01:37 [#01127613]
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Acquirring knowledge one thinks are useful is self deluding
acquiring only knowledge...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-04-01 01:42 [#01127619]
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I THOUGHT I COULD FEEL MY EARS BURNING!!!!1
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