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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 18:17 [#01127296]
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next time you are bored and thinking about coming
LAZY_TITLE, try going here instead. Just
pretend it's xltronic with a layout change, you can do it.
Go there right now in fact. There's no avatars there, BUT
there are some pictures. You can get over your xltronic
addiction. I've made it so easy for you, just one little
click. It's so much better over there. Don't worry, there
are still lots of these funny marks called "letters" over
there. They're just... better.

Wikipedia is the best thing on the internet. It might be
potentially the best collection of knowledge ever available
on earth.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 18:17 [#01127297]
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sigh


 

online big from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:21 [#01127302]
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wtf: letters!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 18:32 [#01127309]
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Suggestion:

You mind your own business and stop suggesting stupid things
I am not interested in.

Regards

Me.


 

online big from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:34 [#01127310]
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Puppis (the poop deck) is a southern constellation. It is
the largest of the three parts into which Argo Navis was
split.


 

online big from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:38 [#01127312]
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also minorly stunning:
if you make it search fcuk it gives no answer and suggests a
google search which gives as a first hit the wikipedia


 

offline wimp on 2004-03-31 18:39 [#01127313]
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Great site.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 18:39 [#01127314]
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*THREAD CLOSED FOR BEING NONSENSE AND WANK*


 

online big from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:42 [#01127316]
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Masturbation is the manual excitation of the sexual organs,
most often to the point of orgasm. It can refer to
excitation either by oneself or by another (mutual
masturbation), but most commonly it is restricted to refer
only to such activities performed alone. It is part of a
larger set of activities known as autoeroticism, which also
includes the use of sex toys and non-genital stimulation.
Masturbation and sexual intercourse are the two most common
sexual practices.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 18:42 [#01127317]
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Ignore me, my brain is making be a tit.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 18:42 [#01127318]
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Well done. Now get a job you hippy.


 

online big from lsg on 2004-03-31 18:43 [#01127320]
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Etymology

The word masturbation is believed by many to derive from a
plural Greek word for penis (μεζεα)
and the Latin word turba, meaning disturbance. A competing
etymology based on a Latin phrase meaning "to defile with
the hands" is regarded by most dictionaries as "an old
conjecture".

The word onanism was used as a synonym, but it is rarely
used today, because it is falsely interlinked to a Biblical
story Genesis 38:7-9, in which a man called Onan "spilled
his seed [semen] upon the ground" to avoid impregnating his
dead brother's wife. It is now generally agreed that the
passage refers to the sexual contraception method of coitus
interruptus but not to masturbation, and so the term onanism
has become obsolete in English.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 18:49 [#01127325]
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you don't need to be able to copy/paste to work here.. but
it helps!!


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:06 [#01127377]
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wikitastic


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:12 [#01127381]
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As you see, related topics are connected by links in a huge
interconnected mass of knowledge. The author here is
everyone.

Anyone can change and augment the entries. I just changed
the topic "masturbation in animals" into "masturbation in
animals other than humans". (I am quite proud of this
change.) The whole thing is copyleft which basically
allows humans to agree to sacrifice personal selfishness for
the good of a wonderful collaberative project.

Everything is handled so eloquently (spelled wrong). There
are "disambiguation pages" for words with multiple
meanings... just look at their neutral point of view policy


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 20:13 [#01127382]
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yeah pedantic semantics is important.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:15 [#01127384]
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"copyleft" may be one of the worst play on words in
existence.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 20:25 [#01127389]
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Shit, until I looked on that website I always thought
'copyright' was an order to be executed.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:29 [#01127394]
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The only thing that concerns me is the blatant oppurtunity
for contributors to add false or incorrect information. Is
this system peer-reviewed or regluated in some way?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:35 [#01127401]
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You may feel like you have a good grasp on the meanings of a
wide variety of things, and surely you do. You've been alive
for some decades and learned a lot culturally. But some of
those things you think you know about in depth and
analytically already can be some of the most interesting
things to read about in my opinion. Just simple things like
"copyright". It's fun to analyze something and find out what
exactly it is at it's very very core. You sometimes
challenge the axioms already stored as information in your
brain.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:36 [#01127407]
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I agree.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 20:38 [#01127409]
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I know nothing. I just blag my way through life but it
serves me well. I have no interest in having any more
knowledge on a subject than I absolutely need.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-03-31 20:39 [#01127412]
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there's always the opportunity for it to be corrected...
it's no different than non-virtual information


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:42 [#01127419]
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I came across this site and this site in my
reading about the unabomber. I found interviews I'd never
have found and a book the unabomber enjoyed (the
technological society) which I'll now probably read. He
tried to escape from industrialization to live peacefully in
Montana. He was going to just do his thing and let everyone
else do theirs until people build a road right through a
sacred location of his, an intrusion of the technology he
was trying to avoid. He wrote some interesting things, about
how in the wilderness, happiness was a thing that one
experienced "now" as opposed to in civilization how
happiness is always just something that's anticipated for
later. And though his logical self didn't believe it, his
primitive emotional self created gods, one a "grandfather
rabbit" since his main meal was rabbits.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-03-31 20:45 [#01127423]
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Enid Blyton Pioneered all that Rabbit shit years ago!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:46 [#01127424]
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so..how do you measure this..?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 20:48 [#01127427]
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Psychology is really interesting...however just how much
information could be gained as to a persons mental state
purely because they liked a certian book is questionable.
His interpretation of the text will more than likely have
been totally different to the way you will interpret it.
Having said this you will attempt to fit the text into a
context you beleive either conciously or subconciously he
was in at the time of reading. Whether your conclusions are
accurate would be debatable.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 20:50 [#01127429]
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One time that chick from tech tv, while on tv, changed ...
monkeypox I think... to read "Jane (or whatever her name
was) is totally cool and doesn't have monkeypox". So yeah
anyone can change anything and it's prone to trolling. But
it's too pure a system to ethically troll in and besides
anyone can revert previous entries if someone vandalizes
stuff. The great minds working on this project have already
discussed and are discussing the topic of vandalism to the
core, rest assured.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:51 [#01127433]
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The ability for anyone to edit it is pretty cool, just for
the sake of universal access. It's like the ultimate
realization of hypermedia. And they have really in-depth
entries on some IDM artists too.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 20:52 [#01127434]
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Measure which? How much knowledge I require to blag people
that I am fairly intelligent? Basically I tend to know a
lot about stuff I feel will help me socially or in business
etc...so I have done a lot of research into psychology and
sociology. Obviously my work is mainly based on computers
so I know a fair bit about computers. A lot of the stuff
Paul (marlowe) reads holds no interest at all for me...he
will read literature where as I read technical manuals...but
what he does will help him in what he has planned for the
future.

I think it is important to have a general overview of as
many things as possible, but there is that much information
out there it is pointless wasting your time reading about
stuff that will have no practical application in your life,
you operate much more effectively if you don't.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2004-03-31 20:55 [#01127436]
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word.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:58 [#01127439]
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but operating effectively is sooo boring.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 20:58 [#01127440]
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what does Paul have planned for the future?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 21:00 [#01127442]
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"operate much more effectively" was just my way of saying
"not coming across like a promo"

Paul mentioned he was going to uni to do a journalism course
:D

About time the boy made full use of his brain in front of
other people.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 21:08 [#01127445]
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promo bases all his knowledge on the internet.

good for Paul! he needs something to occupy himself.. :P


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:13 [#01127454]
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For whatever reason, the human brain swelled in size
exponentially in a small ammount of evolutionary time. So we
now have the capability to learn and retain a great deal of
information. But it's not necessary to do so, at least it
wouldn't be necessary (to this degree) in a hunter gatherer
lifestyle. scientists and scholars have been criticized for
doing what they do ... just so they have something to do,
something to focus on, a goal to pursue. They replace their
previous behavior of making tools and hunting and whatnot to
science/learning, because they have to replace it with
something. So maybe the nanotechnology and
supercomputers that humanity creates was mostly due to
surrogate activity that replaced primitive activity.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 21:16 [#01127457]
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yes and i agree that rigid education systems stunt human
development. but these days there seems to be people
gathering information and not applying it to produce
anything new, which is pointless.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:28 [#01127475]
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But maybe using information to produce something new is only
negative to humanity, ie. did the automobile make life
better or worse? People who don't like the results of such
technology tend to adjust to it rather than go backward to
simpler previous systems because humans tend to seek the
path of least resistance.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 21:32 [#01127476]
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and why this constant drive to create new things, to be
useful?

life is generally pointless anyway.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-03-31 21:33 [#01127478]
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western culture's obsession with progress and the will to
act upon the world doesn't necessarily always benefit the
world at large


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 21:34 [#01127479]
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there is always good and bad effects of any new developments
and in general the automobile has improved standard of
living...sure it has some negative effects but they get
worked out over time. Evolution is a constant process, and
creatures evolve greater capacity for thought and learning
as it is required. The problem is that the thinking is
being taken out of jobs which are being automated by
technology...you have, for the first time in human
development, reached a stage where the mass populace of
people don't have to think for themselves at all. The work
in jobs during the day where the computer does all the
processing of work, then they come home of a night and
cabbage out in front of the TV...which basically has gone
from being a visual information source into a programming
tool for the human mind.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:37 [#01127481]
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speaking of rabbit shit,:

Cecal pellets are mostly digested food that rabbits defecate
and subsequently reingest; a process known as Coprophagia.
Usually a rabbit will eat the pellets straight from their
anus, and as such, many people do not know of this aspect of
a rabbit's diet. They are often referred to as "night
pellets" or "night droppings", since the rabbits tend to eat
them a few hours after their evening meal.

Cecal pellets are soft, smelly, clumpy feces, and are a
rabbit's only supply of Vitamin B12. Due to the design of
the rabbit's digestive system, they cannot extract some
vitamins and minerals directly from their food. At the end
of their digestive system is an area called the cecum where
cellulose and other plant fibers are broken down and
ferment. After they have been broken down and passed, a
rabbit's digestive system can finally extract the vitamins
from them.

I was trying to find out how the intestines produce round
little balls, but this was interesting too. Rabbits are
coprophagians


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 21:38 [#01127482]
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Humans on a purely animalistic level are meant to do three
things in life. Get born, reproduce and die. However if we
stop evolving and developing eventually something else will
come along to replace us as the dominent species on the
planet.

It's like western nations have what is being described as "a
massive skills gap" in a number of areas. However in so
called "less developed" nations they have an abundance of
these people. It is because the west has got lazy which
will lead to the rise of the east. The west will obviously
try to fight this shift in power (some would say Iraq has
been the first step in this) but they will merely delay it.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-31 21:41 [#01127484]
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yes, but this is nature, you see. if we die out because we
didn't do anything useful, we die out. it's kind of hard to
shape your own life around the idea of succesful evolution.

and what is "useful" anyway? would you, for example, see the
work of artists as being useful?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-31 21:43 [#01127486]
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Where did qrter go? Oh, he's probably rimming a
chicken or something.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-03-31 21:45 [#01127487]
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Yes. Everyone can play their part. Artist provide
inspiration and pleasure to other people. Also art is an
intrinsic part of conceptualising ideas as we are a very
visual species. But to me a woman who bares no children,
stays at home watching TV all day apart from doing a bit of
housework is a complete failure in life. Anyone who doesn't
maximise their ability are not only letting themselves down,
but also the entire human race. Anyway I am off to bed now.
Good night :D


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 01:18 [#01127600]
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What you do not see here is that the current western
political social and economical system is based on and
therefore cultivates individualistic tendencies (ok these
tendencies evolved in parrallel with the system). For
example TV says: don't worry yourself about current problems
just consume. TV is a medium whose history is a micrography
of human cultural evolution. Started off as a gimmick and
now LO.... THE INTERNET. Schools basically teach children
to only look after themselves. This is a cultural
evolutionary trait that is required in todays western
societies but it didn't just appear out of thin air just
recently. One can notice the human tendency to build
societies. That can only lead to the building of larger
societies for undisputed(??) reasons of practical nature. (A
species has the tendency to fight for its survival. Survival
is a term that in evolutionary mechanics contains the
tendency to thrive to become stronger in order to conserve
your place). The building of larger and larger societies,
the gathering of people in one large place is called
centralisation. I believe that this is a natural tendency
that eventually led to neo liberalism;the current western
socio-political and cultural state. Centralisation doesn't
only refer to the gathering of people in one place but of
wealth and natural resources as well. What we have here is
an inevitability. The human brain has hardly evolved the
past millenia but biological and cultural evolution are
different parts of the same mechanism. It just seems that
the poverty that plagues the countries of the thirld world
didn't just suddenly appear either. The fact that they as a
people didn't evolve culturally for the last 300-400 hundred
years worked in conjunction to the fact that the western
world did. Itis just a step in the process of
centralisation. Every thing that's going on on planet earth
is connected to each other. The tendency you mr ecnadniarb
describe as Get born, reproduce and die is just a way man
saw things in the past ....... CONTINUING ABO


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 01:34 [#01127611]
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is just a contemporary version of the ever so universal
truth of "SURVIVE!!!!". I bet you know the term passive
aggressivist or something. It is a term of the anglosaxon
intelligencia. The idle housewives you describe are doing
exactly what they are needed to do for their society. They
give up their so called rights and other people are making
decisions for them. This is what makes the western world so
powerful. Islam is another capitalistic socio-political and
economical tendency (allthough capitalism is an economical
term) that works in the same principal. Yes it is old but
not stale. It works for the situation those people are in.
What I am trying to say (this is a chaotic subject and my
brain is extremely disorganised) anyway is that we as
"scholars" should observe planet earth as a whole.
Acquirring knowledge one thinks are useful is self
deluding----exactly how the current western system works. We
need to have a panoramic view of things. Maybe it is
impossible. Maybe we will just get to find out how inept we
really are but most of the things that are going on will an
effect on humanity. If we want to preserve it we needn't
just fornicate and produce offsprings. We need to learn
things. Of course I hate humans therefore I will just sit
here and eat pop corn.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 01:37 [#01127613]
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Acquirring knowledge one thinks are useful is self
deluding

acquiring only knowledge...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2004-04-01 01:42 [#01127619]
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I THOUGHT I COULD FEEL MY EARS BURNING!!!!1


 


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