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sneakattack
on 2004-04-01 02:18 [#01127641]
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I'm glad you mentioned the place. I've been using it heavily for quite some time, and it is truly excellent. The content is predictably varied, since sometimes an expert and other times a relative novice provide content, but the infrastructure allows for improvement on weak points.
Another great place, though only marginally related (limited scope and not a wiki, though also a free online knowledge base) is mathworld.wolfram.com.
I thought that wikipedia would mostly have software/engineering documents, but recently for instance I was reading about korean and chinese scripts.. just an example.
Due to the huge breadth of information and how nicely linked it all is, it's relaxing just to sprawl through it (I used to only use it as a reference).
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 03:32 [#01127693]
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By "scholars" I meant "non-scholars"....damnit
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-04-01 08:25 [#01128072]
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Schools don't basically teach children to look after themselves at all. The opposite is true, it provides a peer structured environment for youngsters to form their social interaction skills. You also contradic yourself in what you typed. You state on the one hand that people are taught to be out only for themselves...and then you talk about the centralisation of populations...this occurs because humans are pack animals not individualistic at all by nature. You have also misinterpretted what I said about knowledge. I didn't say only have knowledge on what you feel is important...I said have knowledge of as broad a set of issues as possible, and only investigate further into specifics as needed to aid you in your day to day life.
Also going to your statement:
They give up their so called rights and other people are making decisions for them.
therefore slavery and oppression is good and makes us powerful too?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-01 08:33 [#01128079]
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im getting a head-ache
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big
from lsg on 2004-04-01 08:43 [#01128102]
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will i be credited for adding something? otherwise you may add fcuk: internet slang for 'fuck' (strong language for 'darn', or something similar), also some french jadajada thingy..
something like that
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 11:17 [#01128429]
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"I said have knowledge of as broad a set of issues as possible, and only investigate further into specifics as needed to aid you in your day to day life."
I generally agree with that allthough every detail could be important in ones life... but yes the human brain has a limited capacity.
About the other things you pointed out I completely disagree. Modern schools only cultivate antagonism. Teachers pressure children to become better than everyone else. The focus of the current social education is being able to survive in a mercilessly challenging and totalitarian system. The teachers and parents force kids to become the best they can be in a professional field merely to survive in the market place. And don't tell me that people care for each other in the times we live in because never have people been more indifferent for the people in their town or for the next door neighbor. You see junkies dying on the sidewalk and you just pass them by. A person is bleeding to death after being hit by a car and people don't help because they are afraid they might get AIDS. Centralisation is many things but socially is just the gathering of many many people in one place. Human relations are completely typical. People are able to survive inside a vast faceless crowd only if they fend for themselves. Human societies were destined to evolve to that. The social side of the animals exists only to accomplish survival for the individual. One becomes part of a group because one would die alone in the wilderness. We always come back to the individual. Its just that modern society has evolved into counting on individualistic tendencies. When people lived in small villages they knew each other. Their tasks were immediately affecting the other people of the community. Nowadays everyone is alienated. Everything we do doesn't seem to have an effect because we are lost in a sea of people. Socialisation is important for humans that's why so many people are depressed in western societies... but make no mistake .... Continuing bel
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ElectroMuse
from New York, LES. (Chile) on 2004-04-01 11:23 [#01128441]
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hey thx for the link, i like it so far, im in wikipedia/astronomy :)
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-01 11:35 [#01128474]
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love, friendship and all that stuff exist because we as individuals feel good when we are in that state. The connection between people has always been limited although at least some years ago when our grandparents were in their villages there was a bit of contact. Now we don't even have that. It's just that people want more... we are greedy(ofcourse it is not that simple). Producing and excavating etc can be done better in larger groups. That led to the industrial age and so on. Small groups just cannot exist today. I must say that I do not consider any of these things to be good or bad. I try to dispose of unnecesary axioms. We are letting go of our freedom because we cannot fight for ourselves (when I said "take after themselves" in my first post I meant in the borders of western society). Comfort is something man has always sought. And now that we have it we also acquired sloth. That thing didn't occur in a day. The previous few generations started giving up... this is how multinational corporations became so powerful. Everything including ourselves is a part of the same system. Humanity as a whole forges the system and in parallel it changes us.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-01 14:52 [#01128833]
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I neglected reading much about math, that site might come in handy if I start working with programming languages and want to produce weird geometric shapes and stuff. I just saw that wolfram's entire huge book is now available to view online for free at www.wolframscience.com... I'm still reading the thing mainly because I average 1 page a week or less.
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