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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 09:16 [#01117808]
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have you heard about this story? if you haven't, it's not for those with a weak stomach (like myself, apparently). truly dreadful murder case involving 14 year old girls killing a friend in an insanely brutal manner.
i'm starting to believe those who say television is dangerous; we are too easily influenced/numbed
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AlbertoBalsalm
from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-03-25 09:17 [#01117810]
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-25 09:19 [#01117814]
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14 year-old girls, or 14-year old girls?
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-03-25 09:21 [#01117818]
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i can think of an excuse for everything if i think really hard
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from So.Flo on 2004-03-25 09:27 [#01117825]
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ummm
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 09:30 [#01117837]
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*rolls eyes
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from So.Flo on 2004-03-25 09:31 [#01117839]
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yup we see it rolling :>
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-25 09:33 [#01117843]
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A grand demonstration of the power of punctuation. Horsefactor, we salute you.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-03-25 10:06 [#01117888]
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what. the. fuck.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-03-25 10:09 [#01117896]
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i didnt get past page 4... im extremely annoyed that i read that, as its made me extremely depressed.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-03-25 10:11 [#01117897]
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Messy
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-25 10:14 [#01117901]
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Extreme!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-03-25 10:17 [#01117903]
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Gripped!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-03-25 10:25 [#01117915]
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Seriously though that's probably the worst thing I've ever read.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-03-25 10:31 [#01117929]
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i am pretty sure this is the same article i saw posted over on watmm i am guessing. The one about the dare? Well either way i can t read this because i think that its going to be that one
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-03-25 10:35 [#01117935]
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No dares involved.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-03-25 10:39 [#01117943]
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i was thinking of the one where a 12 year old girl got beat for 30 minutes into a coma because she kissed another girls boyfriend. If i remember correctly the ages of the culprits were something like 14,14,31,35. Or something retarded like that.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-03-25 10:41 [#01117947]
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Nope. This is much much worse. Especially if you read the whole thing.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 11:40 [#01118006]
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not from watmm
the smiley-mugshots of the murderers are particularly disturbing
it's only because of the fact that the website is trustworthy that i don't think it's a skam. (come on! melinda loveless; can't get much more cliche than that :)
and i was going to see lilja 4-ever tonite which isn't too happy happy joy joy either
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-03-25 11:50 [#01118031]
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can you break the story down please....
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-25 11:53 [#01118032]
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This girl was vilonetly tourtured and killed for going out with another girls girlfriend. I couldn't read much more afetr half way through the assult.
I have my limits
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uzim
on 2004-03-25 11:55 [#01118034]
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.....................
that was probably the most horrifying, sad and cruel thing i've ever read.
how could someone be that heartless and... there is just no adjective suitable for that. by reading that, we can only realize a tiny tiny bit of what it was really like.
we are living in hell. not that i believe in hell nor religion nor any stuff like that, but i'm tempted to think that there was some paranormal or whatever stuff involved - just to make things appear less real, less atrocious, less condemning for humanity. but i know it is true, the murderers were human beings.
that case alone, and to know it wasn't even one case but that many atrocities of that kind already happened - nothing can ever counterbalance that. can you imagine something even approaching being 1/20 as "positive" as this must have been atrocious? we are living in hell.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-03-25 12:03 [#01118042]
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its fake
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uzim
on 2004-03-25 12:08 [#01118059]
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how do you know it?
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-03-25 12:14 [#01118078]
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i don't. but then you don't know it isn't either.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 12:19 [#01118087]
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it could well be fake. i'm known to be gullible (i recall a certain bonsai kitten debacle) and i tend to believe the most incredible lies exactly because they are incredible. so there. but go ahead and prove its fakeness.
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-03-25 12:21 [#01118090]
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you prove its genuine!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-03-25 12:22 [#01118092]
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w00t didnt you use that avatar before? its crazyyy1!
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2004-03-25 12:23 [#01118093]
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What the hell? This is not fake. I remember when this was in the news.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 12:24 [#01118097]
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hey i'm not the one who went rampant and claimed stuff. but here you go. the site seems legit, as far as courttv or whatever is legit:
"The Crime Library is a rapidly growing collection of more than over 500 nonfiction feature stories on major crimes, criminals, trials, forensics and criminal profiling, as well as award-winning fiction short stories by prominent writers. The stories focus mostly on recent crimes, but an expanding collection also delves into historically notorious characters, dating back to the 1400s and spanning the globe.
The Crime Library is a source of entertainment and education for millions of readers throughout the world, and it serves as an important resource for students researching current and historical subjects and for producers of television documentaries and book authors.
The site was founded by Marilyn J. Bardsley in January 1998. Court TV, a joint venture of AOL-Time Warner and Liberty Media Inc., purchased the Crime Library in September 2000"
taken from here
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 12:25 [#01118098]
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yah it's my ancient giger/debbie harry cynical makeover ;) tnx
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 12:31 [#01118115]
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sadly, if this were turned into a hollywood film a la thirteen (which i admittedly haven't seen), chances are people wouldn't be shocked at all. society really is numbing down
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uzim
on 2004-03-25 12:38 [#01118139]
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drummond > who knows yeah ' _ ' ...it it's always more comfortable to think it's fake.
Netlon Sentinel > yes i remember this avatar ^^ it didn't have the little frame before though!
i was about to make the remark but after reading the text it really seemed inappropriate to talk about yr avatar instead...
anyway it's a very cool one - remembers me of that surrealist movie in which you see a girl's eye being cut off by a razor blade, with flashes of the moon.... it's called Un Chien Andalou in french, i don't know the english title (An Andalusian Dog?).... - and also the cover art of Mr Bungle - Disco Volante (haven't heard that album though).
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-25 12:38 [#01118140]
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im not going to read this article tonight - im feeling too fragile. and judging by what most of you have said about it - its pretty grim subject matter.
nelton| on a slight tangent which you brought up earlier.. you fell for the bonzai cats thing?! hahahahahahahaha
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uzim
on 2004-03-25 12:40 [#01118145]
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making movies out of things like that is really wrong...
disgusting = /
imagine if you were in the family of the victim. wouldn't it have been enough to undergo all that, what if in addition to that, cineasts make money out of it...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 12:46 [#01118160]
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that reminds me of a pixies song :) is it a good film, un chien andalou?
the avatar is really the cover of a debbie harry album, dunno which one, i'm only interested in the art (by hr giger)
acrid: trust me, i fall for everything as long as it seems silly or unbelievable. the other stuff i don't care for ;)
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-25 12:55 [#01118170]
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its still called un chien andalous in the uk. by luis bunuel + salvador dali.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-25 12:57 [#01118171]
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un chien andalou is worth seeing. interesting experiment in abstract filmmaking.
'debaser' by the pixes was based on the film - as you well know - which is why it came to mind.
i trust you that youre gullible.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-25 13:01 [#01118175]
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damn :( that's fucked up
drummond, why do you think it's fake? because 'things that horrible don't happen in real life?' well they do, the world is pretty insane.
if this turns out to be fake (which i don't expect, i think it's genuine) there will always be stories alike that are true,
it's not sesame street we're living in
unfortunately
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uzim
on 2004-03-25 13:02 [#01118176]
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i've never seen it, just the scene with the eye & razor (that's by far the best-known scene of the movie...).
made my eye hurt just by looking at it, too (but that's not surprising : )).
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uzim
on 2004-03-25 13:02 [#01118178]
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(ie : not surprising that it made my eye hurt...)
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-03-25 13:02 [#01118179]
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yes it is. that place was fucked up.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-03-25 13:03 [#01118180]
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the link dosent work for me :( someone tell me what they did to her?
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-03-25 13:06 [#01118186]
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btw, aquagak yourr sisterr and virginpushers girrlfrriend arre on my porrno disk.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-03-25 13:08 [#01118188]
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haha, i dont have a sister
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-03-25 13:08 [#01118189]
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Probably the worst case I've ever heard of. The 12-year old girl is burning on a field, crawls into a fetal position. The only thing she has strength to do is stretch her tongue back and forth. Seriously, I almost cried reading that.
Judge Todd, hard but fair, passes on 60-years to Melinda Loveless:
“You still have time to turn your life around and do something good and useful with your life after prison,” Todd(judge) said as Loveless began weeping uncontrollably. “Shanda Sharer(victim) does not. I hope you take advantage of this opportunity.”
Enjoy.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-03-25 13:08 [#01118191]
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;)
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-03-25 13:10 [#01118194]
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i'd like to add that i am going to believe this storry and i find it absolutely unbearrable.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-03-25 13:17 [#01118220]
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woah!! there is a book on this whole case, i read it a while ago... it was extremely fascinating. when i remember the name of the book, i'll post it here.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-03-25 13:22 [#01118235]
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ok the book was called "Cruel Sacrifice". i read it about 3 years ago.
it was so gruesome too...woahhhh.
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