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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2004-03-31 00:08 [#01125826]
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tibbar - since you have no break in Neuwerld my guess is you have the final version.
i have the mp3 here at work today, and i have the ones WITH the break...
i'm dying to hear the version YOU have! :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-31 00:18 [#01125828]
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i'm not downloading it.
i just want wait and hear the whole real thing all at once. but it's a tough wait.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-03-31 00:40 [#01125830]
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evolume: its worth it, just trust me.... wait. you wont be disappointed.
acidophilus: yeah, now see i d/led a second version of the lp off someone else (who will remain nameless), and his version sounded like mine... i dont hear any sample from morpheous, unless its mixed WAY back or something. theres no break at 1:36, thats whats throwing me off.
and i think mine might be the final version, but theres some tiny details that make me think maybe just maybe it isnt. but then again, whos to say either is the final... maybe none of the leaked ones are, or very few might be.
same basic feeling applies to hail to the theif when it was leaked...
who knows, all im saying is this album rocks. HARD.
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2004-03-31 01:11 [#01125837]
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yeah, it sure rocks!
we will eventually find out the differences between the leaked versions. no hurry i suppose...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-03-31 02:10 [#01125920]
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in the streets...
HIT ME IN THE STREEEEETS
hit me (UP!) hit me (UP!)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-31 02:42 [#01125957]
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yeah i'm just afraid i'll end up hearing a bunch of fakes and half-arsed versions if i try downloading it. i want it all in one main-line poke to my ear-vein.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-03-31 02:45 [#01125963]
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good on ya, man... seriously. i dont mean to sound like "do as i say, not as i do" but i wish i could have held out.
its a great album, itll prolly be my #1 this year. just hold out a bit longer man
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-03-31 03:29 [#01126025]
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Oh man "ghostman" is soooooooooooooo good!!!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-03-31 03:30 [#01126027]
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isnt otto's beats CRAZY at the end??!!?!?!?!?!?
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-03-31 03:37 [#01126038]
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otto=crazy beatfuckery
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2004-03-31 03:48 [#01126055]
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the only track i don't like (yet) is use less...
first 2 tracks are little too much process-ish for my taste, but none the less quite good. they will probably grow on me.
ghostman, empte, neuwerld, goneja, daddyuwarbash are all top notch!
i haven't really decided on downsizer and past present... they're time will come! :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-03-31 03:50 [#01126059]
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i dont like the verse to useless, sounds limp.
and i dont like the vocal intro to the last track.
downsizer i dig... i pretty much dig em all.
past present... man, thats tough. i like parts of it alot, im not crazy about that bassline during the chorus thoguh.
hmmm
but all in all, great album. empte, goneja, gostman, and pro-test are my current favs.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2004-03-31 13:28 [#01126930]
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what they do with ohgr's voice on this album is ground-breaking. i've never heard so many edits, chops, effects, re-arranges and processes done with/on and to, the human voice. a screen shot of the digital arrangement for any one of these tracks would look insane.
empte is frickin' amazing.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-31 13:34 [#01126938]
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thge more you guys talk about it the more i want htis release today, not tomorrow or later
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-31 13:40 [#01126943]
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WHATS A GOOD SKINNY PUPPY WEB-PAGE.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-03-31 14:14 [#01127018]
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www.litany.net
thats a good starting point
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-03-31 15:27 [#01127130]
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well, so herbwest calls me up at work and says, "i burned you a copy of the new skinny puppy which i will give to you tomorrow whether you like it or not."
so i doubt i'll be able to hold out long if i actually have a copy in hand.
so fuk it yo. i'm going to listen. tomorrow. since i have not the will to resist.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-03-31 16:55 [#01127194]
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It leaked already? Holy shit, it feels like Christmas morning... and Soulseek is my tree... I need to get it now, though I know I shouldn't.
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-03-31 17:03 [#01127201]
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It's pretty available....
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-01 03:28 [#01127692]
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np: empte
such soulful lyrics and vocal performances
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2004-04-01 05:57 [#01127821]
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"past present" is just getting better and better...
skinny puppy meets faster-harder-scooter :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-01 13:14 [#01128605]
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that song reminds me SO much of delirium. i like its sister track "daddyuwarbash" (except that styinkin chipmunk intro arghhhhhh)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-01 21:25 [#01129333]
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glasse raised an interesting idea...
it would be nice to see ogre as a part of download. a download tour with both spybey and ogre on vocals would treat me real nice.
or just seeing him on occasional new download stuff.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-02 11:36 [#01130208]
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i broke down and decided to listen to it. i agree that so far it kicks fucking ass.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-02 12:14 [#01130242]
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oh man it's good.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-02 12:44 [#01130309]
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just picture it as a chimunk with the furr around it's mouth caked with congealed gore. and maybe the chipmunk is also wearing a blood-stained oversize red shirt with a huge yellow "A" on it.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:06 [#01130516]
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thats pretty bizarre
wow, evolume... that really changes things. weird.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:39 [#01130538]
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Yea my thoughts on the album ...
Some tracks are really good .. namely 1, 3, 5, 7 ,9, 10. It does continue in the spirit of the Process, which while I think is a slightly more accessible, even commercial sound it does have some great moments. At the same time I understand that a lot of the abstractness and surrealness that came with the old puppy sound was somewhat drug induced and I am glad that Ogre got cleaned up and that him and Key are working together again, perhaps in a healthier fashion.
While I will definetly buy the album, my plan is to make a mix CD of half this and half the Process to listen to most of the time, since I really like about half of both albums and they both have enough in common to ensure a cohesive listen and I won't have to skip tracks.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:42 [#01130540]
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I have really been into making personal 'best of' CDs in general lately. I made one for Download and I find myself listening to that 10x more than I would have listened to the individual albums.
I think I may do the combo, select track thing with EP7 and Chiastic Slide, too.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:42 [#01130541]
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ah but j: if you ONLY listen to that, you give up on somethign from what you DIDNT put on there become a fav of yours.
what i mean is... the cd isnt even out yet, and youre going to rule out about half the album.
im just saying, if i only had burned the tracks i dug from confield and chiastic on a cd, i prolly never wouldve looked back and gave them a chance.
just saying theres always that possibility.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:45 [#01130543]
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Na I will go back and listen to the full albums every once in a while, but I got to bump what I dig.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:46 [#01130546]
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bump that crap, creme le bronson!!!
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:54 [#01130561]
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I was downloading some aduck last night. That is some fine stuff and ahead of it's time. I was getting all sentimental. I found a picture of Goettel and made it my desktop background.
I hope some time in the future his family comes around to letting Cevin put out more of his stuff, although I get the feeling that maybe they just associate puppy and everything they were about with Dwayne's downfall. I dunno though.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:57 [#01130567]
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well, i remember key way back saying that there is a whole aduck album that he is just dying to put out someday.
i cant say that the thoguht of it doesnt make me a bit sad and yearning for it.
power is excellent funny fun stuff. the one form wild planet is good too.
theres a fake one going around called field, but i forget who that really is... maybe philth or something.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 17:59 [#01130574]
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This track I got is called Phenethylamine Backwash.
I found it on some site where they had a pic of Dwayne from Ain't it Dead Yet and when you clicked it the mp3 opened.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:01 [#01130581]
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I think he must have known about creme lé Bronson.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:02 [#01130583]
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that song was on a compilation i think or something, it was later remixed sorta and put on the wild planet comp as "quackerzzz (revision)"
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:02 [#01130585]
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or Flock of Seagulls
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:04 [#01130594]
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i told you already.... dwayne was on the cutting edge of fashion, and you just dont get it!!!!!
in ten or 20 or 300 years, that hairstyle is gonna come back BIGTIME!!!!!!
*puts on stairs and flowers video and broods*
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:06 [#01130597]
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that remix of Stairs and Flowers rocks it, unlike the album cut.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:10 [#01130604]
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yeh... i told oyu homes... mind tpi is butt.
thats a boring cd... makes remission look totally inspired.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:16 [#01130611]
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This cbc recording of One Time One Place I got is pretty weird. I dig Chainsaw kinda too, at least I did back then. Some of the rest of the album isn't great although I don't even remember what is on it. The production is weird, has this clean and transparent thing to it.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:17 [#01130612]
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but just as an album, its very scatterbrained.
id say cleanse fold pulls of a similar thign a bit more dead-on
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asjbfoo
from DeKalb, IL (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:18 [#01130613]
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The track Field is actually "The Field" on the album Contra La Puerta by Phylr.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-02 18:19 [#01130615]
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THATS what it is...
yeah, and i dig phylr too, his stuff is pretty neet.
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steve
from chicago on 2004-04-03 16:35 [#01131540]
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What a terrible album. cEvin and Ogre should be shot for having the nerve to call this a Skinny Puppy album.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-04-03 19:02 [#01131670]
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last time i checked, you werent in the band, and therefore unqualified to make decisions about what they should and shouldnt sound like.
in other words, who asked?
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steve
from chicago on 2004-04-03 21:10 [#01131742]
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I know you like to think you're Skinny Puppy's #1 fan around here but I'm quite certain I've been listening to them longer than you and it's not easy to watch one of your favorite bands deteriorate. Consider yourself fortunate that you were able to enjoy this album. I envy you.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-04-04 17:21 [#01132287]
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please, so somehow, anyone who likes this album is less of a fan than you?
or because you've supposedly been listening to them longer than us, you are somehow a bigger fan and therefore your opinion carries more merit?
what a load of bull shit
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steve
from chicago on 2004-04-04 18:43 [#01132340]
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evolume, I didn't say anyone who likes this album is less of a fan than me. Or because I've been listening to them longer my opinion carries more merit. I wanted to make it clear to him that he's not the authority on Skinny Puppy around here. His word isn't law. I'm entitled to my own opinion as a long time fan. If you praised the album in this thread you see that he's all smiles and high fives. Now someone says it's terrible and he says "who asked?"
You should be choking on the absurdity of that alone.
Also by stating how long I've been listening to them I was hoping he'd understand me a little better. That by my statement he'd know that I dealt with the break up. That everytime I listened to them I'd hope they'd reunite. Then the joy I felt when I heard they were making another album. Then more waiting, anticipation building. Then to finally hear the album and to suffer the utter disappointment. There was a lot of pain in my initial post but I still made it. And for tibbar to try to quickly dismiss my opinion because it didn't match his own just made it worse. Of course I don't really think cEvin and Ogre should be literally shot in the head just for making a bad record. I just wanted to illustrate my point that this isn't the Skinny Puppy I fell in love with. That this album shouldn't have been released as a work of Skinny Puppy. I remember reading an interview where cEvin said over the years he's always had a surplus of material to release but much of it didn't fit the Skinny Puppy sound so he released it under different pseudonyms. Why couldn't he do that here? He should have. I still have one shred of hope left that he would scrap the album before the due date because no amount of mixing will fix this album; it's beyond repair.
At least Front 242 still knows how to make good records.
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