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I have been really desappointed after the listen of Ultravisitor ; near everybody on this board seems to think it's awesome, but I don't understand why. I have listened to it many times and I still think that some tracks are annoying (mainly those on which he plays bass guitar). I also have difficulties to listen to Steinbold or Arched path : i find them awful and almost unlistenable, whereas I am used to listening to Venetian Snares or some noise music like Merzbow or Masonna for example. OK some parts of those tracks are nice though... but to me some parts could have been avoided. Finally i believe that Tom Jenkinson has lot imagination and that this album isn't good at all. Maybe am i wrong. (Please don't answer things like "Yes you are wrong!" ^_^ but try explaining me how I should listen to it if it is really good...) To my mind Hard Normal Daddy or Big Loada are far better. |
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I agree, the more I listen, the less I like it. I'm glad I didn't buy it. You know those jokes where the people who were there find it funny, but when you try and tell someone else, they don't get it..... well ultravisitor seems like that, great if its played live on stage infront of you, as part of a spectacular show, but from a stereo its just boring. Its like when cookery goes wrong, you add all the ingredients which should make a lovely meal, but you just end up getting food poisoning. |
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the thing about ultravisitor is that squarepusher has pushed (excuse the really bad pun) himself past just being an electronic musician, i personally think of ultravisitor as an avant garde jazz album. try listening to it for its musical quiality (i mean cmon, who do you know that can play fingerstyle bass faster or more accurately than that?) also just the fact that its not nearly consistant in sound has annoyed many people as well, so try listening to it not expecting the same style to be repeated but having each track go somewhere completely different. |
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"ultravisitor" it makes me think of "music is rotted one note"...-with an attitude. |
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Technically its very good, I agree. The term avant garde, is in my opinion another way of saying pretentious crap. Avant garde music often gives people ideas of how to make proper music, but generally avant garde stuff is like a mad professor discovering something, then real music is like an engineer making it into something useful, which people can use. Sorry for sounding like a nob, it just seems to come naturally as of late. |
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i dont really enjoy the term either, but i just use it in the sense that its a very unconventional album, which i generally understand the acutal meaning of avant garde to be. |
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Even Tetra Sync bores me ... i think it ins't melodic... it's difficult for me as it hasnt ever been before i think... I think it's more a technical album than a melodic one ... but both are possible at the same time (see Autechre, Fennesz, Hrvatski...). Here i don't see the point of most of tracks. |
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hmm... i don't know, but it seems like it's the same effect with Ultravisitor as it was with Geogaddi: everyone loves it at first, they've been so impatient about it that it sounds absolutely awesome to them when they can at last listen to it - then after some time, more and more people think it's not so good after all... (i'm not sure whether it is because people change their mind, or because all the people who thought it wasn't that good at the time everyone was praising it couldn't express themselves because they were "drowned" in the sea of praise...) ...i don't know, maybe, maybe not. we all know the first impression when listening to an album is often misleading. (i don't like listening to albums for the first time) ' _ ' i do not listen to Ultravisitor everyday, but i really like it for now though, i hope i won't grow bored of it! : ) have to be in the mood for it (though it's not as much "mood-dependant" as other music). |
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anyway you're not the only one, i like Ultravisitor myself but i've seen a couple of people on the board who don't. |
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Ok thanks ;) i'm not feeling alone now. Well I think i will try again with this album... but maybe in a couple of weeks. |
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yeah, don't force yourself anyway - i must have listened to it 4 times in its entirety or something like that yet... sometimes i feel it has dispensable filler stuff but the last time i listened to it, i loved it (and after "analysing" all the tracks (not technically mind you, i know fuck all about this ^^), i found out that there is only around two that i would have removed) : ) (that message may not be very clear, i feel i'm losing my english... well, i'm losing my french as well... i'm losing all my languages o_O) |
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i had the pleasure of recieving it the day before i went on vacation, so just to get a feel for each track, i listening to it on a constant loops on the plane ride, so ive probably listened to it in its entirety about.... 10 or so times now, and i feel that its growing better each time, and i can really listen to each part and not just sit there trying to figure out where the track is going for the first time. |
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ill be listening to it for the next months or so.. i do really love it.. it just... lets say.. fits my mood. |
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I just got it myself and so far i like it, and seem to like it more and more every time i listen to it. But then again the music is in the ear of the listener... |
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I tried to like it, I really did. But deep down.. I'll always love the jazzier side of Squarepusher (first 3 albums) |
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it's too long, and some of the tracks are too long and drawn out, but overall, it's incredible. I rank it up there with hard normal daddy and go plastic. it's probably both his most eclectic and his most melodic album. |
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I agree, and I think I was the first one on this board who posted a negative opinion of this Album here. It just isnt that good, its pretty boring, despite all the detail that went into the drum programming |
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i think ultravisitor is awesome!!! best sp album as an album and not single track... really amazing, nice trip. |
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i too was underwelmed by it - theres been far more accessable cd's for me to listen to recently |
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Yeah, underwhelming is the word. |
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i havent heard it really, i dont even know who squarepushers are. I just pretend so that people like me. I guess you could call me a sheep. Can i hang out with you? |
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No you are not alone. I think its a pretty terrible record. |
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i thought it was great at first but then it got old for me |
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i though it was a little inconsistent at first but now I can't stop listening to it. |
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i can't predict what i'll make of ultravisitor in months + years to come. but right now im really engaging with a lot of the material on it. more so with every listen. tom jenkinson seems to have really nailed the fusion of his jazz musicianship + his skilled programming. more convincingly and fluidly so than on any other release. so, im sorry, but i disagree with you on this one. |
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"who do you know that can play fingerstyle bass faster or more accurately than that?" ever heard Jaco Pastorius' stuff? :) |
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It's good but sometimes I really hate those fillers...and An Arched Pathway isn't good. It has some excellent tunes so on a whole it's a good record. Steinbolt is a bit brutal and fucked up a t times but it's excellent. The hardcore drum'n'bass part could have been a bit longer though. 6:09 is the climax of the whole record imo. I listened to it on the car for a week non-stop. |
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I still think its crap. The way its been recorded is the most irritating thing about it. |
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