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Just Saw "Dawn Of The Dead"
 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-19 17:23 [#01110882]
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The movie was great, although the zombies can run in this
film and that kinda goes against what weve come to know of
them from various other films, this movie was awsome. The
violence was great, lots of brains being shot up, tearings
of flesh, chainsaw!!!, a dead fucking zombie baby in the
fuckin womb!, mercy kills, fuckin running zombies over....
yeah, for someone like me, this movie was fucking a defenite
A+.


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-03-19 17:57 [#01110915]
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good to hear. how was it compared to 28 days later?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-19 18:03 [#01110919]
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my friend saw it a while ago (he works in a movie theatre)

he said it actually made him scared of zombies in the day
time


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-19 18:04 [#01110920]
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"a dead fucking zombie baby in the
fuckin womb!"

DEAD ALIVE (Brain Dead) RIP OFF


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-03-19 18:08 [#01110925]
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i don't remember that in dead alive. when did it happen?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-19 18:40 [#01110947]
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whatever, this movie kicked fuckin ass!!!

!!!

compared to 28 days later??? this movie was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY
WAYYYY fucking better.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-19 18:43 [#01110950]
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the nurse gave birth to a zombie baby!


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-19 18:44 [#01110953]
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well in this one you see the person turns while pregnent and
then it starts moving around in the womb, the dead zombie
bitch gives birth its.... its gross, and then the father is
holding the baby and there is a little shootout between him
and another actual human (if i said why id ruin it) and then
they see the baby is a zombie and it snarls and they shoot
it in the head.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2004-03-19 19:07 [#01110962]
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im leaving to go see it right now so i didn't read any of
what was written...
i don't like to know anything...=)


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2004-03-19 19:09 [#01110964]
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well, i just don't fucking remember that part!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-03-19 19:18 [#01110966]
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fuck. i totally should've gone to see this tonight instead
of drinking pabst by myself and renting intolerable cruelty.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-03-19 19:19 [#01110967]
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do you like my new avatar


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-19 19:20 [#01110968]
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pabst! haha.. i hate that beer.

the dawn of the dead movie was great, it sets a great
standard for other horror movies, for sure it does... it was
gory and violent and you felt like they had no hope.. ha..
it was awsome


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-03-19 19:24 [#01110969]
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totally nigel. totally.

----
yeah, i'm not a big pabst fan either. but, one of my
buddies and his hippy girlfriend came over a couple of
weekends ago, and we bought a shitload of pabst (bottles),
and they each have a number & a card suit on the inside of
the cap... and now i'm obsessive compulsively drawn to
collect a whole deck, so i have to drink pabst.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-19 19:45 [#01110976]
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.... ugh! drink a lot of pabst!.... I had to make fun of
pabst the other month, my car was sooo dirty from the
winter, so i wrote PABST really big on the back of it... it
was funny. it was just an inside joke between a friend and
me. it was strange.


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-03-19 20:30 [#01111006]
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i just returned from the first showing in my city - amazing
- i agree 100% with everything you stated

4/5 excellent movie.


 

offline k_maty on 2004-03-19 20:50 [#01111011]
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just saw it too--thought it kicked ass dude. the most
fucked up part was where they're in the van or whatever and
that old dude cuts that chick in half! that was fucking
nuts.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 01:43 [#01111056]
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yeah it was fucking awsome!!!! this movie ruled.. totally
great! it was a brutal film, just great


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-03-20 01:45 [#01111057]
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pabst is actually pretty good in my opinion.

i've heard ALOT of people saying that this movie truely
sucks.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 01:49 [#01111059]
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this movie truly is awsome, anyone who says that doesnt like
horror movies and is a goof.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2004-03-20 01:53 [#01111061]
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well...

...people at the theater said it sucked.
some friends said it sucked.
some naked bitches on some news show on the Playboy channel
said it sucked.

i'm kind of going on what they all said. but i'll probably
watch it next weekend (so i can hear more about it) at a
matinee showing.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 01:54 [#01111063]
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what the fuck? these people are idiots, the movie was very
well done. in all aspects.


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-20 03:26 [#01111150]
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i'm totally in agreement with reflex - best horror film in a
good while - it was quite well written for a remake too -
thank fuck


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2004-03-20 08:53 [#01111276]
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baaaaaaaaaaaaaabyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy
unborn baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabyyyyyyyyyyyy unborn
yyyyyyyyyyyy

looking forward to seeing it today. i'm a big fan of the
original. i know it won't live up to it, but thats ok, its
always nice to see a big budget zombie flick... hopefully
this will convince studio's to let george do a 4th dead
movie.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-03-20 09:03 [#01111284]
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The original is excelent.

I'm boycotting all Hollywood re-makes until they make some
decent films of their own.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 13:59 [#01111442]
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the original is excellent. but fuck.... this movie was just
amazing. i loved it and will see it again sometime.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-20 17:39 [#01111607]
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kick 'em in the nuts, Kate


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 18:22 [#01111642]
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kate


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2004-03-20 18:26 [#01111646]
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It was good, the first twenty minutes were pretty fucking
awesome. I was really entertained throughout. A few really
stupid scenes, and some rediculous zombie moves.

No where near as good as 28 days later.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 18:30 [#01111651]
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i thought it was much better than 28 days later, the 28 days
later movie really seemed boring and lacked a lot to me...
this had so much more action and adventure than the other


 

offline loopychoon on 2004-03-20 19:08 [#01111671]
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Ok I haven't had time for message boards lately which is why
I haven't been around much but..

I just KNEW this thread would be here :D

My thoughts, prejudices and opinions..

Firstly, this is a GOOD FILM (for once).

It can be to it's credit that they did not simply shoot it
frame by frame based on the original or even use the set
pieces of the original.

Sure, you have a mall, a pregnant woman and a black guy
saying "When there's no more room in hell the dead will walk
the earth."
The fact the zombies can RUN (something I'll come back to)
exemplifies this approach: make it new and fresh but in
keeping with the original in the main.

There are a number of references to classic zombie films too
(at least, *I* think so..) So, you have a reference to the
classic shower scene from Zombie Flesh-Eaters (where zombie
crashes through door), and also to the boat floating into
New York harbour.
Also, there is reference to the 'guy who has injured leg
getting wheeled/dragged around by his buddies whilst
shooting at the zombies' from the original DotD.

This film definately respects the classics: dark humour but
not too over-played, like in the post-Evil Dead plethora of
80's films like the Return of the Living Dead series.
This means you get the classic downbeat atmosphere so well
defined by Romero, and thus places this film directly into
the genre (of the good ones). It even has the 'jaded
zombie-hunter syndrome'!

The fact the zombies can move quickly may be contraversial,
but it nevertheless was a brave move and shows the makers
had more than just imitation on their minds (as in the
remake of NotLD).

Also, you get the 'positive role models' a la Romero (this
time more the woman than the black man) and yet this is not
too heavy-handed and helps place it along side the classics
of the genre.



 

offline loopychoon on 2004-03-20 19:09 [#01111672]
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I have to admit I was seriously impressed by the 'rock
video' style credit sequence: the editing, in line with
other technical issues was well done, but the music.. well
I'll be damned if they didn't go and use a Jonny Cash tune
and it worked so fucking perfectly that I just said
fucking.
Furthermore.. the end credits took this even further and
then added something that made the audience who had just got
up to leave sit back down again or hang by the stairs in
case they missed something!

If you are reading this you are probably interested in
zombie films.. definately go see it, it's up there with the
best of 'em!



 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2004-03-20 19:23 [#01111678]
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i think i'm the only one here who isn't interested in
violence pornography...


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2004-03-20 19:23 [#01111680]
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seem to be, rather...


 

offline loopychoon on 2004-03-20 19:31 [#01111690]
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Na, it's a genre thing, rather like enjoying the Godfather
films doesn't mean you are into violent films per se.

As it goes, I'm not into violent films in the main, thus to
claim this thread is about "violence pornography" is
something of a generalization and underestimates the films
somewhat.

I can see why zombie films aren't everyone's cup of tea
though, but even my girlfriend liked this one and said she
could watch it again o0

(Yes cos girlfriends are only usually into My Little Pony :P
)


 

offline loopychoon on 2004-03-20 19:42 [#01111696]
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Actually, allow me to qualify the above with my 3 fave
zombie romps:

Aside from the violence pornography..

For social commentry/observation see Night of the Living
Dead

For social satire see Dawn of the Dead

For cinematics eg. cinematography see Zombie Flesh-Eaters

(And by the way, I was joking about girlyfriends).


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2004-03-20 19:45 [#01111699]
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violence in film does not equal violence pornography.

dawn of the dead is, in my opinion, selling the
sensationalistic thrill of realistically depicted murders,
which is made "acceptable" (justifying a larger body count)
by making most of the victims murderous zombies.

what else is there to the genre? the genre is violence
pornography, the subgenre is zombies. sure, there's a
little comic relief, etc. but the show is pornographic
violence. no serial murder = no show.

at least reflex is honest in that he doesn't try to justify
his pleasure by praising the camarawork or the acting or the
music or the comic relief.

to each their own, but i can't help but wonder "why?" when
people gush about these movies.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2004-03-20 19:47 [#01111700]
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I can't wait to see this film.. loved the originals as well
as 28 days later. Gonna get trashed and then go. ;)


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 19:47 [#01111701]
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zombie films are a SWEET genre, this one was great good
review there


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2004-03-20 19:49 [#01111704]
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i'd be hard pressed to name a thinner and more impotent
"social commentary," honestly...

anyway, i'm not necessarily saying that every movie with a
zombie or two is violence pornography, and again, nor that
violence in and of itself constitutes violence pornography.

not surprisingly, i'm now off to eat some ice cream.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-20 19:55 [#01111709]
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i hate reviews, just sometimes you read worse and worse
ones.. blah anyway... the movie rules go see it


 

offline loopychoon on 2004-03-20 20:03 [#01111716]
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"at least reflex is honest in that he doesn't try to
justify
his pleasure by praising the camarawork or the acting or the

music or the comic relief"


No, it is not dishonest of me to point out to you
that there is more to these films than you claim. I just
happen to be able to point out that you made a gross
generalization :)

Also, if you read what I actually said above you will see
(for instance): "Aside from the violence pornography.."
Thus I in no way deny the violence or am dishonest about
it.

"i'd be hard pressed to name a thinner and more impotent

"social commentary," honestly..."


Nor have I claimed that these films are particularly deep.
Let me educate you sir that social commentry and satire do
not HAVE to be deep to hit the mark.
Plus, for a specific example, if it can show a positive role
model of a black man to the masses of the 1960's it is
hardly so "thin".

"dawn of the dead is, in my opinion, selling the
sensationalistic thrill of realistically depicted murders,
which is made "acceptable" (justifying a larger body count)

by making most of the victims murderous zombies"


This is a good point, however, as I said, I am not usually
into violent films, which surely should follow that
rationale.


 

offline loopychoon on 2004-03-20 20:17 [#01111727]
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Oops, I mean't to say

Plus, for a specific example, if it can show a positive role

model of a black man to the masses of the 1960's it is
hardly so "impotent".



 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2004-03-21 01:04 [#01111829]
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i like how they use titties to get you to stay in your seat
to watch the end credits...if you remember thats the first
image. so what do you think anyone live?

PS, at the one point in the movie when the girl goes to save
the dog, a guy yelled "FUCK THAT BITCH" in the theater, i
laughed my ass off.


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2004-03-21 01:05 [#01111830]
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nice avatar loopychoon...which mr. man is that?


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-03-21 01:43 [#01111834]
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plaidzebra: i think yr a little off the mark saying all
horror is totally devoid of artistic merit. horror is a part
of life and art reflects that. if you go watch the first
dead film (night), youll see theres actually a few
metaphorical topics being dealt with: the race issues of the
60's (which is actually a bigger part of the films drama, if
you are mindful of it), war (the idea of never being able to
escape the dead or to leave with sanity intact) as well as
simple psychology like "dominance". its actually quite well
woven in horror films. my personal favorite horror stuff is
stuff liek 28 days where the gore doesnt overshadow the
story. there is a documentary out there where they talk to
romero, tobe hooper and savini about their stuff. i forget
the title. but anyway, savini tells some weird stories about
being in vietnam as a photographer. its more deep than just
chainsaw to the nuts... but there are people who only want
to see that, so thats what theyre into.

sorry, just felt that needed said.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-21 02:33 [#01111848]
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I LOVE THIS MOVIE.


 

offline loopychoon on 2004-03-21 08:00 [#01112031]
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Heh, it's Mr Silly :D


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2004-03-21 08:51 [#01112054]
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In your heeeeaaaddd!
In your heeeeaaaddd!
Zahmbies!
Zahmbies!
Zahmbieeay-eay-eay-eay....

(I hate that fucking song...)

;)


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2004-03-21 11:49 [#01112207]
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anyone know where i can score that great rendition of get
down with the sickness?


 


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