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Now, lets discuss The Black Dog - Spanners [PUPCD1]. Details can be found Any messages NOT related to this particular release will be deleted by the Moderators. Keep it clean! Please, report any abuses to the Moderators. |
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ok thinking on getting this one what opinions do you have on it? how is it compared to bytes in style? |
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pretty good...something for plaid fans i guess :) |
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i'd get about 2000 albums before this one, but i guess you're going to like it :) |
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you like bytes? |
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my taste allows me to love "not for threes" and also "making orange things" |
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to me it is the bridge between Bytes and Not for Threes, I think this is where the fight started ;) Ed and Andy decided to go on with the same style (well kind of) and Ken did not like that idea so they split up |
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mine allows me to have satanstornade and satie next to eachother on my shelf :) |
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sorry for late reply. yes, bytes is nice...actually i like black dog more to plaid, tho it sounds much alike. im quite sure you're going to like it tho as you always rate music alike good :) |
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Spanners and bytes are simply the best thing that Ed an Andy ever did, quality is extremely high, totally classic! |
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Ground breaking, innovative, fresh, breathtaking! When i hear their sound then AE, BOC and AFX seems nothing |
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i don't think spanners is the bridge between bytes and plaid albums. on the contrary, spanners is a bit of an odd duck compared to the rest of the black dog's work (and plaid). spanners sounds like a laidback mixture of jazz/triphop/techno/and other electronica from the year 2050. or perhaps spanners can be seen as the black dog going bola. ok, this is going nowhere, but my point is: spanners to me sounds like the logical progression from other black dog, whereas plaid....well plaid is plaid |
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Im not sure about the historical context as I havent heard Bytes, but Spanners is great, if youre a Plaid fan. The sound is very Egypian and Greek with bits of weird rhythms and Latin rhumba type stuff. Psil-Cosyin and Chesh are the standouts. |
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yes, the egyptian feel is great, spanners is like a holiday |
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It's not crap, but I'd prefer Spokes or any other recent Plaid release 100x over Spanners |
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Well, i prefer Spanners 100 times over all the Plaid albums |
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I agree. Spanners > Black Dog.* |
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Spanners also > Plaid.* It's a pinnacle of melodic, quirky IDM. |
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hm.. i think bytes is better but thats just me |
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Both are essential. But I feel that Spanners is more album-ey, whereas Bytes feels like a collection of good tracks. Just me. ME. ME. |
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The bottom line is, it's ace. I really liked it at the time, but I am not so sure it's as timeless a classic as Bytes. It sounds a bit dated, to me. I know it's an arrestable offence to use the term "trip-hop" but this sounds very much like the sound of that time to me. I´m not that keen on Plaid and much prefer early Black Dog, and even the "Music for Adverts" album. I agree with RedSky that this has more of a coherent album feel than "Bytes", but I don't think it's quite as good. It's still legend though, you can't go wrong buying it. |
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No, you can't do wrong on this one. I still listen to it more often than any electronic music I have post millenium. |
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Black Dog Productions/Plaid/etc have never bettered Spanners. The Plaid stuff is nice but just doesn't cut it like yon olde skool Blacke Dogge. Even Bytes isn't as good. But only by a very narrow margin. Bytes & Spanners are about level, and completely brilliant. (in my opinion) |
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Spanners is a classic. |
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The Clangers are Spastic. |
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Channing is plastic. |
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every black dog release I've bought ahs been a pure classic (bytes, spanners, peel sessions, music for adverts) and this has to be one of my favourites the 5th track f**king owns |
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im getting into this old stuff again. 'raxmus', 'chase the manhattan', 'frisbee ship' and 'chech' are brilliant! |
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I like spanners more than I like bytes personally but I like 'music for adverts and short films' I think it's their best work, |
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when bytes came out it was truly amazing, groundbreaking, but i do think i prefer spanners over bytes. (i don't even count Temple of Transparent Balls really, it's only a contract-fullfilling album and a lot of the tracks are average)... spanners is black dog at their peak... |
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yeah but some of the tracks are really good on that release too. how exactly was it a contract fulfilling album? you've peaked my interest now, I know shit all about the history of black dog, and now i want to know. |
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i listened to it on bleep and i love the production.. |
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I believe it was to finish off their deal with GPR, much like Aphex did with 26 Mixes and Warp. It was apparantly meant to be called "Temple of Transparent Walls" but they fell out with GPR and replaced walls with balls... As for Spanners I think it's a great album. The last "true" Black Dog album. I do like Bytes more, but this is a worthy successor. Barbola Work, Further Harm & End of Time are gorgeous tracks, not forgetting the spine tingling Chesh. |
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"As for Spanners I think it's a great album. The last "true" Black Dog album." whats the deal with music for adverts and short films? it was released after spanners wasn't it? it's still black dog right? |
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Music For Adverts was Ken Downing alone without Handley and Turner, and quite frankly my least favourite under the Black Dog banner |
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so nacmat should get it? |
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didn't i say that in first post? :) |
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really? it's probably my favourite out of anything they've done, different tastes I suppose.. |
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well less in your 2d is all |
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Long time ago i have spend my time on this messageboard. It is a pleasure that forgotten masterpieces like bytes and spanners are still discussed |
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welcome back :)) |
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listening now..there's trully some beautiful songs on this one. music to take you to a higher state :) |
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psil-cosyin is a real headfucker. i love it! |
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chase the manhattan is sublime. most people producing music nowdays are complicating too much but still don't come close to what people were doing 10 or 15 years ago. |
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psil-cosyin does it for me, but I prefer the psil-cosyin mix on the peel session. |
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I fully endorse the last two statements in this thread. |
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I fully endorse this album. It got me into electronic music when it was released. Was this 1994 or 1995? |
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psil-cosyin could well be the greatest track of all time...... love the horns at the start, and the way the beats build from subtle sounds before dropping with the Black Dog funk For integration and variation of melody, beats and sounds in general, very little, if anything, approaches The Black Dog......... the "musicality" of Spanners is outstanding..... I agree with Tolstoyed......... where is the Black Dog of the 21st century? |
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Fucking hell, I'm going to have to hop the fuck in here. For integration and variation of melody, beats and sounds in general, very little, if anything, approaches The Black Dog......... the "musicality" of Spanners is outstanding..... Exacto-bloody-fucking-lutely, a few short years ago people didn't talk about "complexity" in tracks, it was whether it was fucking any good. Sure you could go all over the shop, bring in the kitchen sink, switch "melodies"... but goddamn, it was all part of the music.. the end in itself wasn't to be "complex". *sigh* I hate psuedo-complexity paraded for its own sake. |
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pretty much why some folks don't cope with aphex twin..they don't see the complexity in his simplicity :) |
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