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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 09:54 [#01021773]
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well, I'm here again.
Too depressed, it's hard to type this. I'll start. About 5 Years ago I tried to kill myself and I took an overdose of sleepingpills.
I trusted someone of my newschool with this stuff, and he told everyone.
At this point I'm really depressed, people are shouting at me that I ruined their live and think I should cut my wrists.
That's not the problem, I would love doing that, no one will miss me at all.
I just feel like I can't trust anyone at all.
So if I live, I live under a constant suspicion.
cant live with that
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 10:03 [#01021776]
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its tough for a LOT of people you know...your not alone..... but no suicide talk. suicide tends to kill you . go out and shag someone or something
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-01-07 10:04 [#01021779]
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Why did you try to kill yourself?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:08 [#01021782]
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milk: trust me, alot of people feel the same way.
i know that's not what you want to hear or probably any kind of consolation, but its true.
people have a tendency to focus on pain, and block out everything else. they think other people are robots who are after them to play some sick game with them. while this is true of a few, most are just oblivious to other people other than themselves. they simply don't see how life is anythign other than a joke.
anyway, point is...
suicide guarantees you nothing. how do you know its better that way?
what you want is closure to an issue. an end to suffering. but that comes with effort, not through quitting.
i implore you to be reasonable and consider this.
you probably also need to calm down.
you can't make any good decisions when you're all upset.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-07 10:08 [#01021783]
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screw em... not literally of course! ;)
suicide ain't the answer... just get new friends!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 10:09 [#01021784]
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my cousin killed himself when i was 11. he was a good friend to me. i understand why he chose to do it.. but even now i see that it wasnt the best solution.
no matter how bad he felt. most people hit rock bottom sometime or other. and it might seem like the end of the world. but seriously, its not worth over-reacting. i know.
keep communicating. at least youre posting how you feel on here. but if theres someone you can talk to face to face, that'd be better.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:10 [#01021787]
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very good advice.
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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 10:12 [#01021790]
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I have no one to talkto. Cant trust them anymore. I just miss my dad really much. He died when I was really young.
And in the hardest times I just wished I could see him and hug him.
thnx guys
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:13 [#01021792]
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my dad died when i was seven (quite suddenly i might add), so i understand that quite well.
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-01-07 10:15 [#01021795]
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Killing yourself does pain to your immediates and friends, and does not help you.
Are you pessimist?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:16 [#01021798]
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i agree with sempoo: to deprive the world of knowing and loving you, you only pass your pain on to others.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-07 10:16 [#01021799]
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I've only got one thing to say: Get professional help!! NOW!
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-01-07 10:17 [#01021801]
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there are always other options than snuffing it.
don't ever feel that suicide is an exit, because it isn't.
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HedFire
on 2004-01-07 10:17 [#01021802]
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if you ever start to feel suicidal just go to sleep. drink some nyquil if you have to. sleep for an entire day if you have to. it's a quick fix but it helps during those times when you feel hopeless.
i would say if you feel this depressed for more than a few weeks to get some professional help. i am considering doing this myself. good luck i hope things work out for you.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-07 10:17 [#01021803]
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hey, I know you don't know me nor I you, but feel free to chat with me on messanger anytime you like... we here at xltronic really are a good bunch of people...
also, I need new friends myself... my current ones are getting on my nerves!
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:18 [#01021804]
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there is love all around you.
seriously, you just need to know where to find it.
Get up, get out of where you are, and put yourself in a better place.
If you can't do that yet, put your mind in a better place. A new place, a beautiful place out in the country.....
Things are better elsewhere, get physically or at least mentally out of the place you are now, see the good that is everywhere, and live live live!
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-07 10:19 [#01021806]
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you sneaky fuck!
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-01-07 10:19 [#01021807]
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Friends counts!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-01-07 10:21 [#01021816]
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:O
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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 10:22 [#01021818]
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well, thats quite nice of you...
Its just, I want to feel alone all the time..
Tibbar... do you struggle with it a lot?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:22 [#01021819]
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funk: love the new av, btw.
hee-larry-us!
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HedFire
on 2004-01-07 10:22 [#01021822]
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also i would like to add that changing locations seems like a good solution but i have learned from friends' experience that it doesn't work. the problem is probably either chemical or psychological and will not go away jujst by changing places. a vacation however is another quick fix like sleeping but doesn't solve the problem.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-07 10:22 [#01021823]
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don't pull that innocence shit on me, dude, hehehe
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:24 [#01021826]
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milk: yes, i do.
my family is not having a good time right now... issues with my brother, who was only 6 months old when my daddy died.
he has horrible anger problems that are ripping the family apart, and he refuses to get help.
he was throwing knives at me the other day.
its bad, yeah... trust me i sympathise with emotional and mental strife.
but you arent alone... thats the one thing you have to know.
its not just you who feels this way, its more and more in todays society.
civil unrest and whatnot.
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2004-01-07 10:25 [#01021829]
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Do you have problems with communication with others? Staying alone all the time is not right solution - you need human warmth.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:26 [#01021832]
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you have mail, btw
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 10:26 [#01021833]
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thats very true. whenever things look bleak.. the answer is changing your perspective. i know its all so tired & clichéd but a positive attitude & self motivation really do pay off after a while. if things aren't working out for you right now - then do something positive to change your way of life. it won't happen for you.
seriously. you're young & you have no idea what life might offer you in years to come. i went through a really bad patch in my teens. and more than once im sure i thought/felt like you are now. but all the things i've done since moving out of home & getting away from the negative aspects of that place, the people there, and the way i felt about what i was doing with my life .. id never have predicted them.
so many things have happened to me that i never imagined would/could. you never know. so try your best to cope with the bad times.. maybe even try to change them..
so much can happen in a year..
by the way, i think the suggestion other people have made about professional help is a good one. forget the social stigmas. ive seen it really work for some very close friends.
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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 10:27 [#01021835]
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I was a year and a half. My brother was seven. He doesn't know a lot about it, I just wished I was a little bit older so I would remeber how my dad was.
SOmetimes I just feel he;s near me and I get realy calm then. but hte last few months he's just dissapeared
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-07 10:27 [#01021836]
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1: realize your situation/issues 2: get help immediately!
before you can get help, you need to realize that fact that you actually need it.
or, have them submitted whether they want to or not!
I submitted myself! And thank God!!
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 10:29 [#01021840]
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so did i
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-07 10:30 [#01021841]
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I'm so fucking glad I got help (still getting help...) and started medication. For my part, it has help me alot. a lot
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:30 [#01021842]
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oh trust me, we're trying to push him to get help with his anger... but he simply refuses, so what can i do?
i have to move out, which means (drops bomb) i probably will not be here for a good decent while until i get thigns sorted out, thoguh i dont know when that will be.
hopefully it can be resolved without me having to leave here, but i am quite certain i will.
i am just not gonna subject myself to having knives thrown in my direction.
so yeah, thats my life.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-01-07 10:31 [#01021843]
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Uhm.. have you got msn?
and.. well i dunno really
gonna read this thread first
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:32 [#01021845]
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yes, please do
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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 10:33 [#01021847]
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tibbar...
Its (souds stupid I know) nice to have someone here that knows what youre talking about
my old friends didnt get why I was so sad about my dad...
they thought it was to get attention.
and yes I have msn.. I just dont talk a lot. I have ICq also
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-07 10:34 [#01021848]
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Yes, I guess it's quite hopless, and frankly I have no experience in that particular field, but one solution, though extreme, is to have him submitted against his own will.
Sure, this will fuck things up and make them even worse for a while, but hopefully he'll realize that he actually needed it once he's in therapy and wakes up to smell the not so flowery pile of shit.
Having knives thrown at you, is a pretty good indication that your brother could use some professional help.
My 5 zen
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 10:36 [#01021852]
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tibbar, milkwoman.. i hope things get better for both of you soon. i know what its like to bgo through some of the stuff you guys have/are.. im lucky in that my life has been reasonably stable & ive had some great support of late.. but i had to work long & hard to reach this point. and it doesnt mean things might not go pear shaped again.
dont give up, either of you. stay strong.. and keep talking.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 10:39 [#01021854]
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nlogax: ive just stopped taking medication......and im glad in a way.....it helped me (got my appetite back,slept better etc), but i was worried about my brain......
what i thought is that i didnt want to take z for ever........ what do you think...?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-07 10:40 [#01021855]
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childhood friend of my girlfriend was sectionned under the mental health act last month.
it was awful. we've seen her once since.. harsh though it is, it was the best thing for her. that professionals recognised what a lot of other people have known (but been powerless to alter) themselves for quite some time.
sometimes, some people have to hit rock bottom before they can start getting life back together again.
its difficult for all involved.. but it seems to be the case.
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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 10:41 [#01021858]
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well tibbar, youve got mail..
Thank you guys.. talking to you is some much better then talking to people in my neighbourhood..
They start gossiping behind my back afterwards :S
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2004-01-07 10:41 [#01021859]
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sadly, yes. I guess it's better to make an effort than to stand by and slowly watch people perish
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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 10:43 [#01021861]
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well...
dont know about that ..
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:43 [#01021863]
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acrid/nlogax: thanx a bunch, im not giving up yet :D
he does need help, and one way or another i think hell get it.
milk: it doesnt sound stupid at all, hun. if you want to talk about this stuff more, my aim screenname is tibbar5179, or email me.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:49 [#01021871]
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milk: ill have msn in a sec
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:54 [#01021874]
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death is gay
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-01-07 10:56 [#01021878]
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hmm youd better talk to tibbar over msn im as shallow as a puddle
i think talking to people helps.. and if you really cant get out get professional help (despite what other people say)
tibbar: mind posting your msn addy here ?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:57 [#01021879]
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tragedy: shut the hell up.
jaroen: tibbar
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-01-07 10:58 [#01021880]
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milk: whats yr msn name?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-07 10:58 [#01021881]
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yeah well.. uh..... whatever, live with it or what! besides, you should really be talking to family/friends about this, not us.
And hey ive been low before, low enough to try things on myself, death was an option once for me, but I got so close to it that I see now that it is NOT an option for me.
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Milkwoman
from Weert (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 10:59 [#01021882]
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well. Ive been to a shrink before. But everything that he said, Ive thought of myself.
Sharing experiences is the best I think..
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