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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-22 08:15 [#01001550]
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As much as most of the people here seem to want to beleive they are something more that the average media manipulated chart music listener, I have noticed that many of you still pander to hype even if it is in a more marginal scene. What do you think? Does this apply to you?
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-12-22 08:18 [#01001552]
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imo everyone follows some version of hype, whether it be from MTV or the black rimmed glasses elitist crowd at the local coffeeshop.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-22 08:19 [#01001553]
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I don't follow hype because I don't listen to anyone.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 09:01 [#01001574]
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I'm a slave to hype. I believed that the Matrix sequels would be good for instance. How wrong I was. I was dragged into the hype for Smojphace too. I should follow your example but I'm too gullible to not fall for the hype again.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-12-22 09:08 [#01001577]
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is that good or bad? :P
seriously; i think that interacting with your environment implicitly means that to a certain degree you're a slave to some hype or another. you just can't escape it. maybe living in syberia would help, but that would be pretty lonely.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-22 09:10 [#01001578]
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Its not always good not following hype because you can find it difficult to interact with people when you haven't got a clue what the latest hype is...which is why most people think I am strange, because I am a loud mouth who doesn't know about anything in the charts or on TV or in the Cinema so basically I spend my life talking shite :D
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-12-22 09:11 [#01001580]
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seriously, think how much time would be wasted if nobody followed recomendations from their respective peer groups, and/or people whose opinions they respected.
everyone would have to listen to every single new album in order to decide whether they were going to like it or not.
constant reinvention of the wheel.
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HedFire
on 2003-12-22 09:12 [#01001581]
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yeah i realized this recently too. seems that people who are so adamant about not buying the mainstream hype get conned into listening (and then proclaiming that it is better than all) to shite. not that i'm saying mainstream is good, but i can think of a lot of music that is more mainstream (not necessarily top 40 but not totally unheard of either) that beats a lot of the reccommendations on here. and yeah i agree with godel, you have to get your recommendations from somewhere, it doesn't matter as long as you know what you're buying into. and if you don't take advice from anyone then you're just plain lost.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 09:23 [#01001589]
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if its good, and you think its good.. then thats all that matters.
i get so fed up with pigeonholing styles, and scenes.. and mainstream & underground & selling out.
none of this means anything. whether a track sells 100 or 1,000,000 it doesn't change the track itself.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-12-22 09:25 [#01001592]
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agreed
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 09:25 [#01001593]
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"I don't follow hype because I don't listen to anyone."
..how can you expect anyone to listen to you? surely its all about 2way communication?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-22 09:26 [#01001595]
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Nah, I'm pretty good at ignoring hype- didn't buy smojphace. I'm looking forwards to playing the new f-zero, but if it's gash I'll admit that it is.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-22 09:33 [#01001601]
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The are leaders and followers...the world has enough followers for me to be successful :D
But I accept there is a difference between accepting recommendations and buying into hype.
Smojpahce is a perfect example of buying into the hype...if it wasn't RDJ how many people would have finished listening to each track once, never mind spending good cash out on it???
Oh and anyone who replies back to this saying they loved Smojphace when they first heard it are lying twats...and it goes back to the old arguement that if you REALLY want to like something to fit in then you will find things to like about it, and that can be nothing more than familiarity or the feeling you are something more than other people because you "get it" and they don't.
Actually more than hype there is a lot of what I call "anti hype" in the world at the moment. People putting down acheivements of others for irrelivant reasons.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-12-22 09:33 [#01001602]
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thanks hedfire, you've just made my day :)
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-12-22 09:48 [#01001616]
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the only hype i can remember really getting into was LOTR, and the amount of hype was appropriate.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-22 09:57 [#01001621]
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 14:28 [#01001972]
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the best hype is dj hype
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 14:33 [#01001981]
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Yes hype does get you into something. Though it doesn't definitively make you dig it but it definitely has influence. For instance everyone use to go on about V Snares I listented to it and I just couldn't get it as time went on and more hyping ensued I listened again and eventually I heard stuff which I began to appreciate then I began to appreciate more of his stuff. I still don't know ultimately where I stand on his music sometimes you listen to it and quite frankly it just sounds like noise. Personally I think people like Luke Vibert are better simply 'cause they create cool tunes and funky beats at the same time. I like V Snares but hype doesn't always effect you definitively.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-12-22 14:34 [#01001984]
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i don't fall forr hype in the least.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 14:37 [#01001986]
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On this board fuck all hyping goes on about Japanese Telecom, yet I think they are major fucking dope.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-12-22 14:44 [#01001990]
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i don't think the fact that everyone checked out afx was hype... the vast majority of these people checked it because they've heard and loved tonnes and tonnes of afx tunes... if you like an artist, obviously you're going to be curious about their new release...
hype is more like me loving the Rapture 'cause all the trendy hipsters go on and on about how great it is... (it's decent... not fantastic)
as for anti-hype: that's the kind of thing people cite against my taste all the time, because they assume that I listen to the obscure music that i listen to just to be different (because they can't relate to it on any level, and assume that the rest of the world must feel the same way).... and i'm sure that part of me is drawn to things that are different... but there is also a large part of me that is drawn towards music that most people just don't consider music...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-22 14:50 [#01002003]
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i dont watch tv or listen to radio...i have no idea what music is popular right now, appart from people everyone talk about (r.williams, britney spears, kylie, radiohead,...) but i hardly know any of their songs
i bought smojphace and i dont think nothing much of it i bought blur's last album, suga babes, i buy every new radiohead album, and probably some other hyped albums
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 16:56 [#01002242]
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not knowing what's popular doesn't make you better than people who do. burying your head in the sand won't make you pure.. or smarter for that matter. good taste comes from having a broad cultural base. i find it impossible to give any credit to the opinions of the kind of person who only listens to one kind of music, reads one type of novel or watches one genre of film. it's possible to be aware of what's going on outside your sphere of interest & not be coerced into liking it simply because of its popularity.
surely not everyone is that weak..? besides, as others have pointed out, being a victim of hype doesn't just apply to whats being played on the radio or tv. every 'scene' has elements of it which are hyped up (possibly beyond what theyre actually worth).. you just have to make up your own mind.
not liking something just because its talked about & a majority of people like it is nothing more than cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-12-22 16:59 [#01002254]
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don't believe the hype
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 17:00 [#01002256]
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That's hype there home boy.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-22 17:00 [#01002257]
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when something proves it's utility to me, it's accepted by me.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-22 17:01 [#01002259]
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I put 'post it notes' on the sides of my eyes so I can't even see what other people are doing. I still don't know what the fuck is house!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-22 17:01 [#01002260]
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im actually not avoiding anything popular, if i hear it and i like it it doesnt matter if its michael jackson (i like some of his tunes btw)...
but there are so many albums from the stuff i like being released that im not really interested in listening whats popular this days, as i dont have enough time to check the music i like as it is...
if any of this mainstream/popular music turns out good i surely read about it here and give it a listen, and buy the record if i like it...
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