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           ecnadniarb
             on 2003-12-22 08:15 [#01001550]
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 As much as most of the people here seem to want to beleive  they are something more that the average media manipulated  chart music listener, I have noticed that many of you still  pander to hype even if it is in a more marginal scene.  What  do you think?  Does this apply to you? 
 
  
         
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           epohs
             from )C: on 2003-12-22 08:18 [#01001552]
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imo everyone follows some version of hype, whether it be  from MTV or the black rimmed glasses elitist crowd at the  local coffeeshop. 
 
  
         
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           ecnadniarb
             on 2003-12-22 08:19 [#01001553]
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I don't follow hype because I don't listen to anyone.
 
  
         
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           giginger
             from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 09:01 [#01001574]
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I'm a slave to hype. I believed that the Matrix sequels would be good for  instance. How wrong I was. I was dragged into the hype for  Smojphace too. I should follow your example but I'm too  gullible to not fall for the hype again. 
 
  
         
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           goDel
             from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-12-22 09:08 [#01001577]
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is that good or bad? :P
  seriously; i think that interacting with your environment  implicitly means that to a certain degree you're a slave to  some hype or another. you just can't escape it. maybe living  in syberia would help, but that would be pretty lonely. 
 
  
         
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           ecnadniarb
             on 2003-12-22 09:10 [#01001578]
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Its not always good not following hype because you can find  it difficult to interact with people when you haven't got a  clue what the latest hype is...which is why most people  think I am strange, because I am a loud mouth who doesn't  know about anything in the charts or on TV or in the Cinema  so basically I spend my life talking shite :D 
 
  
         
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           epohs
             from )C: on 2003-12-22 09:11 [#01001580]
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seriously, think how much time would be wasted if nobody  followed recomendations from their respective peer groups,  and/or people whose opinions they respected.
 
  everyone would have to listen to every single new album in  order to decide whether they were going to like it or not.
 
  constant reinvention of the wheel.
 
  
         
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           HedFire
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yeah i realized this recently too. seems that people who are  so adamant about not buying the mainstream hype get conned  into listening (and then proclaiming that it is better than  all) to shite. not that i'm saying mainstream is good, but i  can think of a lot of music that is more mainstream (not  necessarily top 40 but not totally unheard of either) that  beats a lot of the reccommendations on here. and yeah i  agree with godel, you have to get your recommendations from  somewhere, it doesn't matter as long as you know what you're  buying into. and if you don't take advice from anyone then  you're just plain lost. 
 
  
         
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           acrid milk hall
             from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 09:23 [#01001589]
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if its good, and you think its good.. then thats all that  matters.
  i get so fed up with pigeonholing styles, and scenes.. and  mainstream & underground & selling out.
  none of this means anything. whether a track sells 100 or 1,000,000 it doesn't change the  track itself. 
 
  
         
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           epohs
             from )C: on 2003-12-22 09:25 [#01001592]
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agreed
 
  
         
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           acrid milk hall
             from United Kingdom on 2003-12-22 09:25 [#01001593]
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"I don't follow hype because I don't listen to anyone."
  ..how can you expect anyone to listen to you? surely its all about 2way communication?
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-22 09:26 [#01001595]
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Nah, I'm pretty good at ignoring hype- didn't buy smojphace.  I'm looking forwards to playing the new f-zero, but if it's  gash I'll admit that it is. 
 
  
         
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           ecnadniarb
             on 2003-12-22 09:33 [#01001601]
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The are leaders and followers...the world has enough  followers for me to be successful :D
 
  But I accept there is a difference between accepting  recommendations and buying into hype.  
 
  Smojpahce is a perfect example of buying into the hype...if  it wasn't RDJ how many people would have finished listening  to each track once, never mind spending good cash out on  it???
 
  Oh and anyone who replies back to this saying they loved  Smojphace when they first heard it are lying twats...and it  goes back to the old arguement that if you REALLY want to  like something to fit in then you will find things to like  about it, and that can be nothing more than familiarity or  the feeling you are something more than other people because  you "get it" and they don't.
 
  Actually more than hype there is a lot of what I call "anti  hype" in the world at the moment.  People putting down  acheivements of others for irrelivant reasons. 
 
  
         
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           goDel
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thanks hedfire, you've just made my day :)
 
  
         
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           scup_bucket
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the only hype i can remember really getting into was LOTR,  and the amount of hype was appropriate. 
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-22 09:57 [#01001621]
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We need a man that is simple perfection There's nothing that's harder to find Someone to lead us protect us and feed us And help us to make up our minds We need a man that's sophisticated Quiet and strong and well educated Where to go what to do Could it be somebody super like you
  We need a man that can stand as a symbol And symbols have got to be tall Someone with taste and the tiniest waist With his help would not life be a ball If we had fun he would not restrain us If we got caught he would just explain us Where to go what to do Could it be somebody super like you
  We pledge allegiance to his gracefulness and charming manners With a voice that's both sides choice he'll bring us to our knees in admiration He is king of all who see and hear his perfect pitch And more surprises when his time is come a stallion rises
  We need a man with a head on his shoulders a nose that is simply divine Hollywood smile and a perfect profile and with eyes that would sparkle and shine Long flowing hair for a crowning glory There'd be a man who could tell our story Where to go what to do Could it be somebody super like you
  We pledge allegiance to his gracefulness and charming manners With a voice that's both sides choice he'll bring us to our knees in admiration He is king of all who see and hear his perfect pitch And more surprises when his time is come a stallion rises Rises... rises... rises
 
  
         
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           tango
             from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 14:28 [#01001972]
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the best hype is dj hype
 
  
         
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           promo
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Yes hype does get you into something. Though it doesn't  definitively make you dig it but it definitely has  influence. For instance everyone use to go on about V Snares  I listented to it and I just couldn't get it as time went on  and more hyping ensued I listened again and eventually I  heard stuff which I began to appreciate then I began to  appreciate more of his stuff. I still don't know ultimately  where I stand on his music sometimes you listen to it and  quite frankly it just sounds like noise. Personally I think  people like Luke Vibert are better simply 'cause they create  cool tunes and funky beats at the same time. I like V Snares  but hype doesn't always effect you definitively. 
 
  
         
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           Anus_Presley
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i don't fall forr hype in the least. 
 
  
         
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           promo
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On this board fuck all hyping goes on about Japanese  Telecom, yet I think they are major fucking dope.  
 
  
         
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           DeadEight
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i don't think the fact that everyone checked out afx was  hype... the vast majority of these people checked it because  they've heard and loved tonnes and tonnes of afx tunes... if  you like an artist, obviously you're going to be curious  about their new release... 
 
  hype is more like me loving the Rapture 'cause all the  trendy hipsters go on and on about how great it is... (it's  decent... not fantastic)
 
  as for anti-hype: that's the kind of thing people cite  against my taste all the time, because they assume that I  listen to the obscure music that i listen to just to be  different (because they can't relate to it on any level, and  assume that the rest of the world must feel the same  way).... and i'm sure that part of me is drawn to things  that are different... but there is also a large part of me  that is drawn towards music that most people just don't  consider music...  
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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i dont watch tv or listen to radio...i have no idea what  music is popular right now, appart from people everyone talk  about (r.williams, britney spears, kylie, radiohead,...) but  i hardly know any of their songs
  i bought smojphace and i dont think nothing much of it i bought blur's last album, suga babes, i buy every new  radiohead album, and probably some other hyped albums
 
 
 
  
         
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           acrid milk hall
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not knowing what's popular doesn't make you better than  people who do. burying your head in the sand won't make you  pure.. or smarter for that matter. good taste comes from  having a broad cultural base. i find it impossible to give  any credit to the opinions of the kind of person who only  listens to one kind of music, reads one  type of novel or  watches one genre of film. it's possible to be aware of  what's going on outside your sphere of interest & not be  coerced into liking it simply because of its popularity.
  surely not everyone is that weak..? besides, as others have pointed out, being a victim of hype  doesn't just apply to whats being played on the radio or tv.  every 'scene' has elements of it which are hyped up  (possibly beyond what theyre actually worth).. you just have  to make up your own mind.
  not liking something just because its talked about & a  majority of people like it is nothing more than cutting your  nose off to spite your face. 
 
  
         
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           -crazone
             from smashing acid over and over on 2003-12-22 16:59 [#01002254]
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don't believe the hype 
 
  
         
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           giginger
             from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-22 17:00 [#01002256]
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That's hype there home boy.
 
  
         
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           hevquip
             from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-22 17:00 [#01002257]
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when something proves it's utility to me, it's accepted by  me. 
 
  
         
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           JivverDicker
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I put 'post it notes' on the sides of my eyes so I can't  even see what other people are doing.  I still don't know  what the fuck is house!   
 
  
         
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           tolstoyed
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im actually not avoiding anything popular, if i hear it and  i like it it doesnt matter if its michael jackson (i like  some of his tunes btw)...
  but there are so many albums from the stuff i like being  released that im not really interested in listening whats  popular this days, as i dont have enough time to check the  music i like as it is...
  if any of this mainstream/popular music turns out good i  surely read about it here and give it a listen, and buy the  record if i like it... 
 
  
         
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