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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-21 16:05 [#01001049]
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i just got it as an early christmas present. I've been using mostly Acid Pro up till now. but now that i have reason, i figure i ought to learn how to use it as well.
so a couple questions i have right off the bat:
1. can you record in live parts and arrange them in Reason? In acid, i often record in bass guitar parts, turntablism parts, keyboard parts etc. then i add effects and such to them. can i do something like this in reason?
2. can i use Reason to control my Roland Juno 106 keyboard?
3. can i use my roland juno 106 to control the synths in Reason? I do not have a midi controler.
these are the questions i have for now. i will no doubt come up with some other questions as i poke around this thing.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-21 16:07 [#01001050]
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1. You can't record them straight into Reason. You need to use another audio program. You can load them into Reason after using the samplers though :)
2. I don't know.
3. Same again. I'd need to know more about the actual hardware. Is it a MIDI device?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-21 16:12 [#01001054]
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yeh its midi
but its an antique. talkin' mid 1980's but it has midi in and out.
so a follow up question, if i were to record audio parts into say.. soundforge, will that run with reason simultaneously without too much hassle?
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-12-21 16:15 [#01001057]
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you will be able to control reasons synths with your juno. not too sure about the other way though.
fruity has 'dashboard' which will let you build an interface for any midi synth. aint too sure what reason offers there.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-21 16:30 [#01001078]
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If it's MIDI then you can trigger Reason with it :)
Not sure about running it with Soundforge. If it's a ReWire program then yeah it'll run but further than that I'm clueless. Sorry.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-21 16:34 [#01001088]
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so what is ReWire anyway? is it worth buying? Will it allow me to record live parts? what's it gonna cost me?
thanks for all the advice thus far.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-21 16:36 [#01001091]
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man, the manual that comes with reason is kinda crappy isn't it?
well kinda.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-12-21 17:23 [#01001109]
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Igf you have any other questions e-mail me.
You will not be able to control the juno with reason.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-12-21 17:25 [#01001110]
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Oh yeah and you wanted to record in soundforge and have reason running at the same time so you know what your doing but soundforge is not a rewire program, but you can load the audio you make in soundfore into the samplers really easily.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-21 18:01 [#01001131]
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thanks skink, i might be e-mailing you if i get any questions then. yeah thanks.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-21 18:02 [#01001133]
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so what would be the ReWire equivlant of soundforge? is there one?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-21 18:19 [#01001151]
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You can control reason devices' parameters with a h/w midi controller- I sometimes use a phatboy to speed up patch creation.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-12-21 19:18 [#01001206]
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Cubase sx/sl might do the job.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-12-22 00:24 [#01001318]
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recycle?
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-22 00:42 [#01001326]
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SOFTWARE is ghey. (omg i forgot to turn off the capslock for the first part of that!!!ONEONEONE1)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-22 12:18 [#01001791]
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thanks for all the input. i am slowly plugging away at this thing now. not really making any tracks, just kinda poking and prodding and stringing cables here and there and such.
looks like i'll have to stick with Acid Pro though for my main stuff since i rely heavily on my bass guitar and turntable and my juno.
But mayhaps i can work something out with this Reason stuff or start a side project or some shit. hmm.
but hey! got the software, might as well use it. more tools = more fun
hevquip: hardware is expensive. i choose to use the tools available to me which happens to be a bit of both.
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neut
from Boise (United States) on 2003-12-22 12:30 [#01001815]
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use reason with live and you'll never look back. recording, sequencing, programming, looping, live performance...you'll love. it! i know i do.
peace.
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neut
from Boise (United States) on 2003-12-22 12:31 [#01001816]
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btw- Live is pretty equivalent to Acid. but a lot better!!!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-23 17:08 [#01003595]
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actually, i just installed live last night its pretty dope
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-23 17:22 [#01003599]
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Agreed.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-23 17:45 [#01003613]
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do you know if i can use my sonic foundry and hyperprism effects with Live?
i couldn't figure out how to do it. but i haven't really been through the whole manual yeat either..
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-12-23 20:29 [#01003751]
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There is quite alot you will be missing out on if you stick with acid, mind you if you write something dope in reason you can always export the audio and use it in acid. However you use it, it is a very good tool to have as it is amazingly flexible and stable.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-24 11:30 [#01004377]
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yeah, but i'm like a ninja with Acid where as with Reason, i'm like a.. um.. like the opposite of a ninja.. like hmmm.. like a guy who is like out of shape and really clumsy.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-24 11:31 [#01004378]
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C. Ling Tile: So, Ghost. We meet again.
Space Ghost: C. Ling!
C. Ling Tile: That's right. I'm back.
Space Ghost: The pleasure is mine.
C. Ling Tile: No, no, no. Correction: The pleasure is all for me! (He starts spraying water on Space Ghost's head) Sprinkler! Sprinkler!
Space Ghost: No!
C. Ling Tile: Ho-HO!
Space Ghost: Tap water!
C. Ling Tile: (laughs) Now I will freeze you! At 60 degrees! Cool air vent! Go! (starts blowing air on Space Ghost)
Space Ghost: Agh!
C. Ling Tile: Go together!
Space Ghost: He's lowering the temperature of my body!
C. Ling Tile: Oh-ho-ho!
Space Ghost: It's all right. Contact Facilities!
C. Ling Tile: You...(bangs Space Ghost on the head)...deal with it!
Space Ghost: Son of a...
C. Ling Tile: Ha ha ha!
Space Ghost: Time to hang, Tile!
C. Ling Tile: Asbestos powder! (Start spraying powder in Space Ghost's face)
Space Ghost: Agh!
C. Ling Tile: Get up! Get up and face the powder!
Space Ghost: No!
C. Ling Tile: (sniffs) Mmmm! Mmmmm! Suck it in, Ghost! And prepare to die!
Space Ghost: Not while I'm alive! Medical school!
(Space Ghost summons a glowing ball of energy)
C. Ling Tile: Hey! Stop!
Moltar: Space Ghost has mastered the five magics!
Space Ghost: May cause drowsiness!
C. Ling Tile: No!
Space Ghost: From your coffin!
C. Ling Tile: You don't have to throw that!
Space Ghost: Because you're dead! (Space Ghost throws the ball, causing C. Ling Tile to burst into flames)
C. Ling Tile: Hey! That hurts! No!
Space Ghost: Well, it looks like C. Ling will fit in perfectly...on the roof...in jail!
Zorak: He sure will, Space Ghost!
Space Ghost: Moltar, that's one tile that needs to be replaced!
Zorak: It sure does, Space Ghost!
Space G
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-24 11:32 [#01004380]
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Space Ghost: Shut up, Zorak!
Zorak: (blink) (blink)
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Sempoo
from Barlinek (Pluto) on 2003-12-24 11:42 [#01004399]
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BTW: what is your fav machine in Reason?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-24 11:59 [#01004423]
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xammax, i am a big fan of SGCTC but i don't see how this thread has anything in common with the tag team fucking thread.
i had a legitimate, musically related question.
but yo, that is some funny shit so.. hmm kudos..?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-24 12:39 [#01004483]
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It's rare I actually have anything useful to contribute to threads... I'm glad you like, regardless.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-24 12:41 [#01004486]
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my funniest memory of SGCTC is Brak's peanutbutter jelly sandwich song. you got the lyrics to that?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-24 12:42 [#01004488]
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Try here.
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exillon
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-24 14:14 [#01004556]
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I reckon the "Don't touch me" song by Brak is quite tickling.
Actually, all of his songs are hilarious...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-06 20:08 [#01021313]
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ableton Live is phukking dope. good suggestion.
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staplemouth
on 2004-01-06 22:20 [#01021374]
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i just installed live recently too, i dabbled in it for about 5minutes but it seems pretty cool eh
in live is there a way to fade from one reason track to another? I dont think there is, but wondering.
thanks
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-06 22:25 [#01021377]
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hmm no i dont think so. i think sound coming in from reason can only be routed to one Live track. but, i'm kinda a novice at both programs so don't take my word for it.
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staplemouth
on 2004-01-06 22:27 [#01021380]
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yeah i didnt think it was possible, but it would be cool if it could :p
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exillon
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-06 23:54 [#01021399]
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you could automate the volume in both tracks. as long as you have enough ram to handle it...
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-01-18 22:08 [#01039996]
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this might help you, i don't know. but Reason does have 64 out channels that can each be selected in pairs in the Live mixing board.
you might be able to fade between different Reason tracks by sending them out of different channels and fading between them using the Live crossfader. just need to do some clever wire connecting on the back of the Reason rack.
i hope that makes sense.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-01-19 00:36 [#01040033]
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dunno if this has been covered elsewhere BUT:
i have the following problem, and'd be greatful if anyonecan help me out.
running Mac OS 9.2.2 using cubase 5.2 public beta, rewire2 - reason 2.5 in slave mode! When i turn a knob of one component - it will turn a paramater (ie. knob/ slider etc. of some other component). Eg. if i change the release on the subtractor - it will also change either the release on another subtractor i have, or say the release in a dr. rex etc. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to what other parameter/component it will affect.
All i know is that this doesn't happen in reason stand alone .. and its fuckin annoying!!!
currently d/l 5.1r1 again .. i can't quite remember whether there were any rewire2 issues with that - but i guess i'll find out. :S
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exillon
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-19 02:06 [#01040086]
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Are you sure your sequencer tracks aren't accidently mixed up, and assigned to more than one component?
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exillon
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-19 02:07 [#01040089]
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I'd love to figure out how it's happening, that would be a really cool trick to control. Much like wiht Logic, how you can set one parameter to control 30 other parameters at the flick of a knob. Let us/me know!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-01-19 02:49 [#01040110]
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no the sequencer tracks aren't mixed up at all .. as i say .. it works fine with reason stand alone - and its a problem with reason per se - tho i think it must be some rewire2 problem with cubase b/c that seems to be the only difference. ie. i don't even need a sequencer track for that to happen. i can just have the components and play around with paramaters = and you can see the other knob move!!! aaargh
with reason2.5 you have the option to split cv or audio signals, so technically you can do what you mentioned. the annoying thing is that this thing that is happening to me is pretty unpredictable, and it seems happens with any component .. ! :/
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exillon
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-01-19 03:41 [#01040150]
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maybe a nice re-install of reason would fiz the rewire issues.... sux man... hope it gets sorted!
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